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Excellent post Konehead. Paperwork issue, NOT SAFETY ISSUE.
You guys try make it sound like "If I don't get to go pee on time it's a safety issue".
You are overplaying the safety card. Even you should admit, calling the "safety card" on one U/S HF if pretty weak.
You guys try make it sound like "If I don't get to go pee on time it's a safety issue".
You are overplaying the safety card. Even you should admit, calling the "safety card" on one U/S HF if pretty weak.
The point is, the law is the law and Co. procedure is co. procedure. We have to stick to both. It's a dismissible offence if we don't. But only if it suits the co.
CASA didnt issue a dispensation for this flight number. So QF and the LAME in question has breached CASA regs.
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The issue with aircraft flying with open defects or an unsigned RTS is a Legal one. Any airline that will knowingly break the law with regard to maintenance requirements has crossed the line. Am sure the travelling public would agree and if this has, in fact occurred, lets hope our friends at CASA have the courage to act appropriately.
Tks for replies protyrekicker & konehead,
Pls dont for a minute even think that my patience is not wearing thin also,i really dont know why i could even think there might be a small hope but i suppose just hoping there could be something in the pipeline.
Maybe PAF should realise that if the other party to this dispute were even half serious about solving it then we would not even be here.
Have a look in the past PAF when deals were made especially the 1 when we went without a pay rise for 18-24mts(exact times arent important but the intent of it is,it was to help the company out).
Its very easy to forget when it suits,but be assured lots of people wont forget what we have been put through so far and all for what??
Pls dont for a minute even think that my patience is not wearing thin also,i really dont know why i could even think there might be a small hope but i suppose just hoping there could be something in the pipeline.
Maybe PAF should realise that if the other party to this dispute were even half serious about solving it then we would not even be here.
Have a look in the past PAF when deals were made especially the 1 when we went without a pay rise for 18-24mts(exact times arent important but the intent of it is,it was to help the company out).
Its very easy to forget when it suits,but be assured lots of people wont forget what we have been put through so far and all for what??
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HEADS MUST ROLL
I hope that includes PAF the rock spider. he has obviously never had to work under the GD regime so I have decided to add the ignoramus to my ignore list as well. So long PAF I hope your rock is warm.
I hope that includes PAF the rock spider. he has obviously never had to work under the GD regime so I have decided to add the ignoramus to my ignore list as well. So long PAF I hope your rock is warm.
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Last week about half of Adelaide's emergency department doctors tendered their resignations to take effect in two weeks unless their pay demands are met.
The state government says senior emergency department doctors now earn $313,158 annually and its offer will take them to $355,976, but the doctors want a rise to $424,633.
Source: Sydney Morning Herald
The state government says senior emergency department doctors now earn $313,158 annually and its offer will take them to $355,976, but the doctors want a rise to $424,633.
Source: Sydney Morning Herald
that they are an essential service. They will be chained to the operating tables and forced to work at whatever pay that is deemed "sustainable". Oil prices are high, so governments can't pay doctors. Typical bully behaviour by union member communist doctors trying to bring down the health system for their own selfish desires. The hospital system, like airlines in Australia are impeccably managed.
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Had A Chance To Argue Individually!!
Paf,where did u get that information from???
We have been told we will all get 3%,we have been told we will all get 1% increase in super which isnt true,our wage structure has rewards for years of service up to a certain point-then u get nothing for years of service.
Is that a chance to argue??-dont think so!!
Now-tell us more about the chance to argue-would love to hear when we had it.
We have been told we will all get 3%,we have been told we will all get 1% increase in super which isnt true,our wage structure has rewards for years of service up to a certain point-then u get nothing for years of service.
Is that a chance to argue??-dont think so!!
Now-tell us more about the chance to argue-would love to hear when we had it.
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Folks for the lame's that stopped work the other week and had there pay adjusted accordingly, I would like to remind all the lame's that joined after April 96(and do not attract shift penalties for starting before 0700), please check your pay slip and make sure Qantas have not deducted shift penaltys from your pay! Yet again I find myself having to ring qantas connect to ask if they wouldn't mind contacting payroll again and having the shift penalties credited back to my pay, as I do not attract them in the first place! I'snt it amazing after 12 years they still can't get it right...........? If Qantas is trying to really p
s me off they know how to push my buttons....
s me off they know how to push my buttons....
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PAF,
With regard to:
protyrekicker: You don't commit to anything other than rumour. I.e. you prove nothing (and don't open yourself up to libel)
li·bel·ous
–adjective
containing, constituting, or involving a libel; maliciously defamatory.
You are quite correct. I am pleased you noticed.
I prefer the level headed, intelligent approach. Perhaps you should attempt it.
With regard to:
protyrekicker: You don't commit to anything other than rumour. I.e. you prove nothing (and don't open yourself up to libel)
li·bel·ous
–adjective containing, constituting, or involving a libel; maliciously defamatory.
You are quite correct. I am pleased you noticed.
I prefer the level headed, intelligent approach. Perhaps you should attempt it.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Konehead
simple logic test. How could a company let it get itself in the situation that the long term survival of the company depends on engineers doing overtime?
The LONG term survival of the company doesn't depend on it. Taking short notice action doesn't prove that the Long term survival depends on it. You make an illogical argument.
Originally Posted by Konehead
simple logic test. How could a company let it get itself in the situation that the long term survival of the company depends on engineers doing overtime?
The LONG term survival of the company doesn't depend on it. Taking short notice action doesn't prove that the Long term survival depends on it. You make an illogical argument.
QE has been run down to such an extent that the only way the work gets done is if people work masses of overtime. When the overtime doesnt get done, the maintenance backlog builds up. When the backlog gets too large, the aircraft will get parked against the fence. No flying = no airline.
Please tell me how this is illogical.
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PAF you're grasping at straws. Any intelligent man can see that the point is that the law was broken, not that HF is a serious safety issue. Surely you aren't that lame? Oh hang on........ 
PAF is about twenty years behind the times, as is most of the ADF, fighting the last war.
Good luck finding "communists" PAF, ....better still I enjoy your right wing rants against these ghosts.
Good luck finding "communists" PAF, ....better still I enjoy your right wing rants against these ghosts.
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Mendaero,
Chill brother, add PAF to ignore as many of the rest of us have. He just wants an argument and will argue black is white if someone will counter him.
Concentrate your energy on winning against Dixon, not some ill-educated twerp like PAF!
Oh, PAF, don't bother commenting on this
"Pass-A-Frozo is on your ignore list" is all I'll see
Chill brother, add PAF to ignore as many of the rest of us have. He just wants an argument and will argue black is white if someone will counter him.
Concentrate your energy on winning against Dixon, not some ill-educated twerp like PAF!
Oh, PAF, don't bother commenting on this
"Pass-A-Frozo is on your ignore list" is all I'll see