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Man ,i tell ya
Today was just delay, delay ,delay sorry I mean
resched, resched , resched!
Funny thing is , I didn't need to do anything.
I just let the lack of spares, bodgy out sourced maint
and the dumb ass adoc navigator do it for me!
Trolls, please tell you seniors about this post
because today was all their doing!
Are you starting to get it?
I hope so because you should have listened to your staff
instead of being yes men and looking after yourselves.
I haven't even started a full work to rules yet.
when we do it will just be devistating!
Today was just delay, delay ,delay sorry I mean
resched, resched , resched!
Funny thing is , I didn't need to do anything.
I just let the lack of spares, bodgy out sourced maint
and the dumb ass adoc navigator do it for me!
Trolls, please tell you seniors about this post
because today was all their doing!
Are you starting to get it?
I hope so because you should have listened to your staff
instead of being yes men and looking after yourselves.
I haven't even started a full work to rules yet.
when we do it will just be devistating!
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I'd like to hear some of the antics that went on during the
lames break for the meetings.
I've heard some beautys, like the releasing to service with
unactioned pilot reports more than once, the famous chock
incident , and the buffoon asking the belt loader dude where
to plug in the headset, and where should he walk.
Seems most of them have been identified now, and the scum that
still hold union membership should be terminated forthwith.
Funny thing so many of these turds required the alaea to pull them
out of the **** before, who is going to represent them when they
next get caught out.
lames break for the meetings.
I've heard some beautys, like the releasing to service with
unactioned pilot reports more than once, the famous chock
incident , and the buffoon asking the belt loader dude where
to plug in the headset, and where should he walk.
Seems most of them have been identified now, and the scum that
still hold union membership should be terminated forthwith.
Funny thing so many of these turds required the alaea to pull them
out of the **** before, who is going to represent them when they
next get caught out.
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Sunfish wrote "PAF, why don't you piss off and go drop some bombs on women and children. This is a discussion of something that has nothing to do with you"
Their are a great many people in the military who would disgusted in your opinion of what serving personal are about, bomb women and children... you care more about money then you obviously care about people who have and continue to put their lives on the line. And yes, it does have something to do with him and everybody else who belongs to this forum, PAF and thousands of other serving members have died so that we can enjoy freedom of speech in this country, and that means that they can say what ever they please, whether you like it or not. There are countries where this isn't possible, where the rule of law is based on thuggery and brow beating the individual... maybe that's where you belong.
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." is one of the founding statements in a democracy, the right of ALL men and women to freedom of speech, it's the cornerstone of our society. When only the thugs can speak, when the individual is excluded because his opinion differs from yours, then it simply means that you have lost ALL valid arguments for your line of reasoning and we will all be dragged down to a living hell.
It's easy to be a coward and a bully when you can be anonymous.
Their are a great many people in the military who would disgusted in your opinion of what serving personal are about, bomb women and children... you care more about money then you obviously care about people who have and continue to put their lives on the line. And yes, it does have something to do with him and everybody else who belongs to this forum, PAF and thousands of other serving members have died so that we can enjoy freedom of speech in this country, and that means that they can say what ever they please, whether you like it or not. There are countries where this isn't possible, where the rule of law is based on thuggery and brow beating the individual... maybe that's where you belong.
"I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." is one of the founding statements in a democracy, the right of ALL men and women to freedom of speech, it's the cornerstone of our society. When only the thugs can speak, when the individual is excluded because his opinion differs from yours, then it simply means that you have lost ALL valid arguments for your line of reasoning and we will all be dragged down to a living hell.
It's easy to be a coward and a bully when you can be anonymous.
Nuked, I'm sorry if you are offended. I've got six years service myself. In my opinion PAF has nothing relevant to contribute, he just writes the same stuff time and again, occasionally throwing in a few red herring references to economics from an old textbook.
To save others the time, I generally take it on myself to confute the economic rubbish he spouts.
His latest ravings suggest that it is criminal for LAMES to disrupt the plans of travellers, but he fails to follow through to the logical conclusion that if it is criminal for LAMES to disrupt things, then it must also be criminal for Management to disrupt things.
To save others the time, I generally take it on myself to confute the economic rubbish he spouts.
His latest ravings suggest that it is criminal for LAMES to disrupt the plans of travellers, but he fails to follow through to the logical conclusion that if it is criminal for LAMES to disrupt things, then it must also be criminal for Management to disrupt things.
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Sydney International on Sunday, 01 June 2008 for Flight QF11
Flight No. To Scheduled Departure Actual / Estimated Departure
QF11 Los Angeles 13:20 21:30 Estimated
8 hour delay so far.......and all those missed connecting flights......this is one costly very costly delayed departure.....
Flight No. To Scheduled Departure Actual / Estimated Departure
QF11 Los Angeles 13:20 21:30 Estimated
8 hour delay so far.......and all those missed connecting flights......this is one costly very costly delayed departure.....
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QF 11 two days ago left a day late with massive resultant disruptions EX LAX.
Keep up the pressure boys.
Assertions that QF's schedules are back on track couldn't be further from the truth.........
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/...tas-Strike.php
Keep up the pressure boys.
Assertions that QF's schedules are back on track couldn't be further from the truth.........
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2008/...tas-Strike.php
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Looking for some bean counters out there who know what it costs per minute or hour late, both in airport charges and lost revenue dollars for any and all (DELAYED),lol(RESCHEDULED FLIGHTS) both in Domestic and International levels.
Anyone care to do some number crunching and share it with the rest of us ?????
Anyone care to do some number crunching and share it with the rest of us ?????
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Dear Mr Fed Secretary
As a member of the association i am very happy with the way things are going...The OT bans will take effect no doubt about that..
BUT I really would wish that someone from Bexley would publicly counter Dixons lies!!!
The public has seen the ACTU president outside SDT surrounded by our members shouting to be heard...
GD is being calmly interviewed in a boardroom or studio spouting his lies to the nation......'$130k per yr' , '30%plus wage increase since 2001' and no one is counteracting any of this!!!..
What the hell is the public gonna think??...
There is no doubt that GD and QF are winning the media battle, and that my brothers, will start to count more and more as this battle continues and more and more public are pissed around..
I just hope that the association has many more tricks up their sleeves..coz we're gonna need them!!!
BUT I really would wish that someone from Bexley would publicly counter Dixons lies!!!
The public has seen the ACTU president outside SDT surrounded by our members shouting to be heard...
GD is being calmly interviewed in a boardroom or studio spouting his lies to the nation......'$130k per yr' , '30%plus wage increase since 2001' and no one is counteracting any of this!!!..
What the hell is the public gonna think??...
There is no doubt that GD and QF are winning the media battle, and that my brothers, will start to count more and more as this battle continues and more and more public are pissed around..
I just hope that the association has many more tricks up their sleeves..coz we're gonna need them!!!
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What was Dixon earning in 2001, I have a feeling he has probably had a 200% increase since then and that is being conservative. He would find it hard getting a job after Qantas, but look fwd to him proving me wrong..... hope he starts looking soon.
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Speaking of liars ( incompetent fool or whatever else you want to call him)
Has anyone seen MH lately?
Normally he loves to be seen and take credit for other peoples hard
work but I haven't head jack from him .
Could it be that he is distancing himself from DC in the
hope that he will fill DC's position when the inevitable happens?
Now that would really suck!!!!
Talk about out of the frying pan into the fire!!
Any theories gents?
Has anyone seen MH lately?
Normally he loves to be seen and take credit for other peoples hard
work but I haven't head jack from him .
Could it be that he is distancing himself from DC in the
hope that he will fill DC's position when the inevitable happens?
Now that would really suck!!!!
Talk about out of the frying pan into the fire!!
Any theories gents?
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I would think M has trouble on his own doorstep to deal with. One thing is for sure though, if he made promisses to Cox about what he could or could not do to the LAMEs that he is not now delivering on, he will be on thin ice.
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No real loss - just someone paid to say it!
From today's Sydney Morning Herald (01/06/08):
The problem is, NO ONE CARES anymore! Firstly, I believe they are still crying wolf (read the full article and you will see why). Secondly, Qantas has lost all its goodwill from staff. While things were very, very good over the last few years, we have still pretty much got F*All. Even if times look to be bad, I would NOT take another bloody wage freeze. We've done that before and got nothing in return.
So screw you red roo. Give these guys their well-deserved pay increase! A pay cut from GD alone could finance it. The difference between 3% and 5% would be no more than a $2 Million increase per year. Compared to the massive profits of the last few years, that is NOTHING. Also, Qantas is saving a FORTUNE because of the new cabin crew EBA. They can afford it.
JPMORGAN'S research arm has provided Qantas's chief executive, Geoff Dixon, with more ammunition in his fight against the union movement, by warning that the airline could post a $1 billion full-year loss if oil prices hit $US200 a barrel.
So screw you red roo. Give these guys their well-deserved pay increase! A pay cut from GD alone could finance it. The difference between 3% and 5% would be no more than a $2 Million increase per year. Compared to the massive profits of the last few years, that is NOTHING. Also, Qantas is saving a FORTUNE because of the new cabin crew EBA. They can afford it.
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Secondly, Qantas has lost all its goodwill from staff. While things were very, very good over the last few years, we have still pretty much got F*All. Even if times look to be bad, I would NOT take another bloody wage freeze. We've done that before and got nothing in return.
Qantas Don't know the meaning of and have never practiced good will to anyone but thier executives.
I for one,would now rather they go down the path of Ansett, than offer 1 more iota of good will again towards them. Even if this means my own job.
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If oil / jet fuel hits $200 a barrel then it does so for all, even those
airlines that have done a better job of hedging than qf .
The reality of the matter is that people are not going to stop traveling.
Even if they decide that they wont fly and will jump in there car, the cost
increase will be the same if you fly or drive.
Bottom line is that everything will go up in price from food to AIRLINE
tickets. And believe me QF won't loose a cent
Geoff has already put his prices up and will do so again.
I still want my 5% and wanty is right, I have no more good will.
I am tired of being constantly lied to and quite frankly I, like a lot
of other people am only still here in the hope that QE will turn the
corner and once again be the department its employee were proud
to be a part of.
Time is however running out 'cause I am getting really sick of the
bull****
airlines that have done a better job of hedging than qf .
The reality of the matter is that people are not going to stop traveling.
Even if they decide that they wont fly and will jump in there car, the cost
increase will be the same if you fly or drive.
Bottom line is that everything will go up in price from food to AIRLINE
tickets. And believe me QF won't loose a cent
Geoff has already put his prices up and will do so again.
I still want my 5% and wanty is right, I have no more good will.
I am tired of being constantly lied to and quite frankly I, like a lot
of other people am only still here in the hope that QE will turn the
corner and once again be the department its employee were proud
to be a part of.
Time is however running out 'cause I am getting really sick of the
bull****
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$200 a barrel,lets be realistic here the world wide economy is slowing ,don't be surprised if it gets back down to $70 a barrel soon,and the only thing that would take it that high would be a boom in the world economy,in witch case Qantas will be positioned to make a killing as Asia is fast becoming the engine room of the world economy,either way they won't be losing.
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QF1: Scheduled Departure: 1700h
Estimated Departure: 0730h (Mon) !!!!
Woops! Any stories, guys?
Estimated Departure: 0730h (Mon) !!!!
Woops! Any stories, guys?
Nothing more sinister that that.
There are a lot of these MEGA delays out of SYD BASE, just not enough people.
They have been let go to the other airlines.
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