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Old 2nd Jun 2008, 05:30
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Fed Sec,
When is the next stop work?
Lets maintain the momentum
If we haven't heard from the company by 1630hrs
then hit them with 72hrs notice of an all ports
stop work meeting during peak times.
Sorry in advance to all pax.
Call the next stop work a "vote of no confidence"
in QE management.
And I now want 6% + DC's and MH's scalps
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Old 2nd Jun 2008, 05:34
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2.00 am sounds good to me.
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Old 2nd Jun 2008, 05:53
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Wanty,

Perhaps we could hold it in the Qantas club so all the overnighting stranded passengers can listen in and realise that it's GD, DC & MH et als fault and not a "go slow"


PS, notice from association......ignore any knee-jerk changes to the PPM removing ground run approval requirement. It's apparently a safety related issue so back to NO engine runs.....and that means you A330 boys too you know!!

Nice one SP!!
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Old 2nd Jun 2008, 05:59
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Have conducted quite a few ground runs from the right hand seat and many more from the ground and now I find out I'm not qualified.
Wish I had to the time to update my quals in eQ but with so much work to do I don't know if I'll ever get the chance.
Too bad
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Old 2nd Jun 2008, 06:01
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Blakchander,

Even if you had the time there's nothing you can do until you've had the official training which will cover the OH&S side of it.........

what a boo boo........
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Old 2nd Jun 2008, 06:03
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Next stop work?
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Old 2nd Jun 2008, 06:56
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Slakers

I was uniformed about you guys , i think you have it good, am coming to AUS and happy to earn the dollars that you guys earn.

I thought the man was robbin you, but now way, please compare your wages to UK guys

Looks like you guys need dose of THATCH, ie Margaret...

Man yu fellows are bpissing in the wind, i suggest you getabout fixin planes, and this comes from a staunch unionist

you Aussies need a dose of reality

i thought i was coming here to support a union of underpaide workers

am happy to be paid what you guys are

MAN YOU GUYS HAVE GOT IT GOOD , keep on strykin, unbelievable, we will be filling your jobs what tossers
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Old 2nd Jun 2008, 06:58
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Personally, this is not about the money. I will take a pay freeze, as I have before, if the present management just f#@*s off and passes on the big QF to a group of people that has a passion to grow a winning product and restore a huge slice of pride into every worker that has the great fortune to wear the QF logo on thier shirt/overalls/blouse or apron .
FOG
May I be so humble as to suggest a quote for the day?
Law of Logical Argument: Anything is possible if you don"t know what you are talking about.
Attn GD, DC, MH and all your yes men/wanabe's.
Good night Gentlemen of the Engineering persuasion and God bless you all. You are to be congratulated........
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Old 2nd Jun 2008, 07:01
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C1234, stay in the UK and go back to school.
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Old 2nd Jun 2008, 07:01
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Originally Posted by Ngineer
Next stop work?
If you asked David Cox, apparently we have already stopped work. Go slow,what an insult. Absolutely 100% work to rule, 100% of the time now.

For any members who weren't that disgruntled,now I would say D cox has peeved them off too now.

Thanks for re enforcing the solidarity David C*x,one blunder after another for you isn't it. Your days at Qantas are numbered,you'll be gone by xmas.
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Old 2nd Jun 2008, 07:06
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Hey chanel1234,

I think most of our LAMEs can actually read and write properly, just as I'm sure most of the Pommie ones can. We don't need any illiterate LAMEs, thank you. I don't think anyone who writes as poorly as you could possibly be a real LAME.

BTW, How much do you think you'd be earning if you came to work as a LAME here? Are you sure you've got your facts straight? Maybe you misread something

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Old 2nd Jun 2008, 07:10
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Originally Posted by chanel1234
I was uniformed about you guys , i think you have it good, am coming to AUS and happy to earn the dollars that you guys earn.

I thought the man was robbin you, but now way, please compare your wages to UK guys

Looks like you guys need dose of THATCH, ie Margaret...

Man yu fellows are bpissing in the wind, i suggest you getabout fixin planes, and this comes from a staunch unionist

you Aussies need a dose of reality

i thought i was coming here to support a union of underpaide workers

am happy to be paid what you guys are

MAN YOU GUYS HAVE GOT IT GOOD , keep on strykin, unbelievable, we will be filling your jobs what tossers

How high a level an education did you obtain pal ???
You'd better stay in the UK I think. If the poor grammer and spelling mistakes in your post are anything to go by,they obviously don't set the bar too high back in your homeland.

Got a tip for you, "Best to be thought a fool than to open your mouth and prove it"

Good luck getting our jobs,unfortunately for yourself, the minimum standard to hold a licence over here is above 5th grade.

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Old 2nd Jun 2008, 07:20
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Take it easy on our friends from the UK guys. Most are top engineers and good union men. I think a few of you may have been tricked into responding to a 'false' LAME who is trying to start something between us and our Pommie cousins.
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Post I'll update as the evening progresses

Note: this is International departures from Sydney according to Qantas.com

QF11 - 22hrs:26mins Late
QF01 - 17hr:37 Late
QF163 - 1hr:35 late
QF91 - 40 Mins late
QF167 - 9 mins late
QF136 Cancelled
QF45 - 29 mins late
QF367 - 12 mins late - operated by Asiana
QF47 - 12 mins late
QF129 - 53 mins late
QF63 - 28 mins late
QF191 - 23 mins late
QF359 - 52 mins late - operated by Vietnam Airlines
QF107 - 1hr:43 late
QF375 - 15 mins late - operated by Air Vanuatu
QF127 - 1hr:28 late
QF321 - 6 mins late - Operated by Lan Chile
QF19 - 2hr:13 late
QF43 - 3 mins late
QF391 - ON TIME - Operated by Air Pacific
QF11 - 31 mins late
QF73 - 35 mins late
QF187 - 1hr:48 late
QF41 - 58 mins late
QF319 - 2 mins early - Operated by British Airways
QF5 - 17 mins late
QF189 - 55 mins late estimated
QF301 - On Time - estimated - operated by British Airways
QF31 - 3hr:50 late - estimated
QF01 - 3 hours late - estimated
QF117 - ON TIME - estimated
QF49 - ON TIME Estimated
QF21 - ON TIME - estimated

On time ( IATA standard = within 15 mins) departures so far: 26 flights ( incl codeshares not operated by QF)
30.76% On Time

On time not including non-qf operated codeshares: 20 Flights, 3 flights on time within 15 mins !!
15% On time

I think SYD International and Base are doing their bit to ensure the safety of the QF fleet!!
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Old 2nd Jun 2008, 07:24
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I was uniformed about you guys , i think you have it good, am coming to AUS and happy to earn the dollars that you guys earn.
I thought the man was robbin you, but now way, please compare your wages to UK guys
Looks like you guys need dose of THATCH, ie Margaret...
Man yu fellows are bpissing in the wind, i suggest you getabout fixin planes, and this comes from a staunch unionist
you Aussies need a dose of reality
i thought i was coming here to support a union of underpaide workers
am happy to be paid what you guys are
MAN YOU GUYS HAVE GOT IT GOOD , keep on strykin, unbelievable, we will be filling your jobs what tossers
ok, judging from the typical anti-industrial action poster, the average post count is around 3 or 4, so you fit this bill. now its interesting that the prelude to the actual 'action' (which has been very minor so far in the grand scheme of things) these particular poster's were no where to be seen.

You guys (or guy, ie 1 QF manager with vested interests)are trying hard, from whoever you are employed by. This is an obvious tack to stem the flow of information around the Qantas employee groups because there is some really good juicy info in this thread such as the PPM amendment regarding EGR's. Because if it were adhered to, aircraft that required an EGR would be grounded because Qantas have not provided recurrency training to their LAME workforce.

wingers, cpiom, channel1234, etc, you are all post counts in the single digits and you all speak from the same tune. Us greedy money grabbing LAME's on the big dollars already will gladly welcome you to Qantas to bolster our ever dwindling numbers and help reduce the workload. Here is some facts for you;

-if you were employed newly in Qantas with say 2 engine and airframe types that Qantas operate, would be graded level 4 LAME, approximately $1100 a week, or to express it in a familiar currency for you, at today exchange rate, 531 GBP.

-If you were so lucky to work the 4on4off day/day/night/night shift at the approximately 40% shift loading, (which you wont be on as it only applies to staff pre '97) 743GBP per week. 38000GBP/year
-or a base rate of pay of approx 14GBP per hour.

So, nice attempt at trying to direct a bit of flame toward you post, but I hope its all put in perspective for you. Add to that, the average house price in BNE/SYD/MEL is hovering around $500,000 and a lot more to live in a desirable suburb, good luck living the good life us LAME's take for granted.

Please, come on in, take our jobs. Though its a bit hard when you're an office jocky employed by a consultancy company that is contracted to Qantas to assist in the breaking of the union. Perhaps you should give Geoff some tips on trying to not look like the biggest prick in the world whenever he opens his mouth. He's not winning the publicity battle thats for sure.
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Old 2nd Jun 2008, 07:24
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Fed Sec Man Do The Numbers

man all i know is ..you should compare like to like...i think your union needs to come to the UK,

happpy to swap wages, you dudes do not know how good you have it, but who gives a shi...t, i gottttta a job and i aint complaining, looks like i will be an outcast for you ALAEA prick.s
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Old 2nd Jun 2008, 07:33
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channel1234 - is the poor spelling and grammar on purpose to illicit a thread drift and abuse toward yourself ?
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Stay Away chanel1234

What you forget mate is a lot of poms over here already have worked back home for many years.
The wages over here are not comparable to those in europe. A Qantas LAME on $57,000 equates to 23,265 pounds stirling, as an AME i wouldn't get out of bed for that never mind as an LAE.
I used to earn between 35,000 and 45,000 pounds depending on who i worked for and came here for the lifestyle, not to work my arse off on OT to make up the shortfall.
Next time you want to spout off about something check your facts you illiterate waste of space.

these figures were from 10 years ago

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Old 2nd Jun 2008, 07:42
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New boy!!

Chanel1234-all 0f a sudden you have made an appearance!!
Just wonder where you have been all of the time this eba has been going on.
Seems like(as many have suggested) you are being put here by someone to get a reaction.Better try a new approach-we can all see right through you(and your poor grammar).
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Chanel1234.
With such poor grammar of yours, you haven't got a hope in hell of passing the citizenship test.
Stay home and work for a bowl of rice.
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