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what speedbird means is that current SH crew are able to transfer on existing conditions as per the EBA when a swap course occurs.
That's always been the case and generally there is swap course once a year and traditionally about 50 per year are allowed to move between the divisions. i dont see any reason why that would not continue
That's always been the case and generally there is swap course once a year and traditionally about 50 per year are allowed to move between the divisions. i dont see any reason why that would not continue
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Hi,
I am a reject
from the recruitment drive in SYD this time. In the kind email that I received it said that I could apply again in 6 months time. Does anybody with experience such as Pegasus747
know if there will be any further recruitment drives in SYD for QCCA after August this Year and if so how many and how often?? Also really interested to know how many new recruits are in a training class, just out of interest???
Cheers
I am a reject
from the recruitment drive in SYD this time. In the kind email that I received it said that I could apply again in 6 months time. Does anybody with experience such as Pegasus747 know if there will be any further recruitment drives in SYD for QCCA after August this Year and if so how many and how often?? Also really interested to know how many new recruits are in a training class, just out of interest???Cheers
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Petriboy,
"Legend has it" that the first of the new recruits have been wandering the halls of Q Head Office on orientations ready for training. The games have begun or so a little birdie tells me!!
"Legend has it" that the first of the new recruits have been wandering the halls of Q Head Office on orientations ready for training. The games have begun or so a little birdie tells me!!
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Hi Guys,
Petriboy i know how hard it must be having to wait the 6 months but you will have your chance soon and it will pass really quickly. Also make sure you apply for all the other airlines in Australia, with so many crew from other airlines applying for QF there is alot of movement about to take place hence more opportunities. Persistence is the key mate, with your dedication I know you will get in for sure....
Just a quick question again if anyone knows the answer. Based on the B Scale EBA my understanding is that QCCA crew will not have a bidding system. Does this mean they are pretty much given anything left over from Long Haul A Scale crew?? Also is there any option to bid for days off? I find it a little strange that there is no option for bidding at all? Anyone able to clarify this?
Petriboy i know how hard it must be having to wait the 6 months but you will have your chance soon and it will pass really quickly. Also make sure you apply for all the other airlines in Australia, with so many crew from other airlines applying for QF there is alot of movement about to take place hence more opportunities. Persistence is the key mate, with your dedication I know you will get in for sure....
Just a quick question again if anyone knows the answer. Based on the B Scale EBA my understanding is that QCCA crew will not have a bidding system. Does this mean they are pretty much given anything left over from Long Haul A Scale crew?? Also is there any option to bid for days off? I find it a little strange that there is no option for bidding at all? Anyone able to clarify this?
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Qantas is developing new software for bidding for QCCA and A380; It will not be based on seniority however.
The Company talked to crew and the FAAA about a universal change to the seniority bid system and it was resoundingly rejected by current crew. This is not to say that in a few years time crew may not have a different view.
In the meantime the FAAA and the company will be working on a system for crew in QCCA and A380 to have more flexibility within the constraints of an overall seniority system prevailing in the long haul division.
it is envisaged that the system will consider days off requests, paired bidding and a range of other requests.
What methodology the company uses other than seniority based is up for discussion. The FAAA is not opposed to recognition of seniority for new crew, it is the company that wants to move away from the culture of seniority. The FAAA view is that it is always a matter for crew themselves, and at the moment the majority favour a seniority system. the new crew now may in time want to have their seniority recognised based on their joining date given they are the 1st of 2000 new crew and the benefits of seniority are obvious over time.
It is hoped that the system will be available later in the year.
in the mean time flying will be allocated to QCCA and A380 crew until a new system is put in place
The Company talked to crew and the FAAA about a universal change to the seniority bid system and it was resoundingly rejected by current crew. This is not to say that in a few years time crew may not have a different view.
In the meantime the FAAA and the company will be working on a system for crew in QCCA and A380 to have more flexibility within the constraints of an overall seniority system prevailing in the long haul division.
it is envisaged that the system will consider days off requests, paired bidding and a range of other requests.
What methodology the company uses other than seniority based is up for discussion. The FAAA is not opposed to recognition of seniority for new crew, it is the company that wants to move away from the culture of seniority. The FAAA view is that it is always a matter for crew themselves, and at the moment the majority favour a seniority system. the new crew now may in time want to have their seniority recognised based on their joining date given they are the 1st of 2000 new crew and the benefits of seniority are obvious over time.
It is hoped that the system will be available later in the year.
in the mean time flying will be allocated to QCCA and A380 crew until a new system is put in place
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A380 crew will ONLY fly on the A380. All other longhaul crew will fly on all the other aircraft types (currently 747, 767 and A330, but later will include international 787s, etc). It may be possible to transfer between A380 flying and "other longhaul" flying, but I don't believe any of the details for this have been worked out, yet.
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Flugbegleiter...info all correct 
As far as the number of crew required the company will be making an announcement and running information seminars starting in Mid Feb for Long Haul crew interested in A380.
from that point expressions of interest will be sent out and the level of interest will then determine the amount of external recruitment required.
As far as the number of crew required the company will be making an announcement and running information seminars starting in Mid Feb for Long Haul crew interested in A380.
from that point expressions of interest will be sent out and the level of interest will then determine the amount of external recruitment required.
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Pegasus,
Thanks for the info on the bidding system, makes sense.
With regards to the A380 are you saying that A380 is exclusive to that aircraft??? If you are trained on the 747, 767, A330 will they not train you on the A380 at a later date and have you flying on all 4 aircraft type as part of Long Haul???
Cheers
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Thanks for the info on the bidding system, makes sense.
With regards to the A380 are you saying that A380 is exclusive to that aircraft??? If you are trained on the 747, 767, A330 will they not train you on the A380 at a later date and have you flying on all 4 aircraft type as part of Long Haul???
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A380
The company's plan is that those crew who are selected to fly on A380 from QCCA either via direct recruitment or via transfer to A380 from current Long Haul will only fly A380 and will not be endorsed on other Aircraft.
Current Long Haul crew have the opportunity to choose to work on A380 under arrangements agreed as part of EBA8 and will only fly A380 as well.
For those that have been around a while you will know that Qantas is a moveable feast and over time all things are subject to change.
what i have outlined in the Company's stated plan for LH and A380
Current Long Haul crew have the opportunity to choose to work on A380 under arrangements agreed as part of EBA8 and will only fly A380 as well.
For those that have been around a while you will know that Qantas is a moveable feast and over time all things are subject to change.
what i have outlined in the Company's stated plan for LH and A380
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Well,
That makes things very interesting. So what do you think would be the difference between flying on the A380 VS 747,767, A330... Would there be a greater difference on trip types, destinations etc.. Just wondering what destinations the A380 will replace.
Cheers
That makes things very interesting. So what do you think would be the difference between flying on the A380 VS 747,767, A330... Would there be a greater difference on trip types, destinations etc.. Just wondering what destinations the A380 will replace.
Cheers
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I'm sorry Social Flyer, but you seem to ask the same questions in different ways, when people like Peg747 just seem so straight to the point and very clear in what they communicate. I hope you don't think I'm attacking you, but new to this forum I've read up a lot on past messages and you seem to jump in quite often without really thinking about what you want to ask. I give your enthusiasm a though
though
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Can i suggest that anyone that is actually in a flying job at the moment and is seriously considering changing to QCCA they have options to get information from the FAAA directly rather than from anonymous forums where the accuracy of the information is well intentioned but often only based on information we hear on the grapevine.
The FAAA interntional Division has a lot of information on its website www.faaa.net where you can find out lots of useful information. If you ring them and tell them that you are applying for qCCA and would like to ask some questions they will put you through to a senior official who will give your 100% accurate information . I suggest thats the best course of action if you want really accurate info remembering this is anonymour rumour/chat site
The FAAA interntional Division has a lot of information on its website www.faaa.net where you can find out lots of useful information. If you ring them and tell them that you are applying for qCCA and would like to ask some questions they will put you through to a senior official who will give your 100% accurate information . I suggest thats the best course of action if you want really accurate info remembering this is anonymour rumour/chat site
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Thanks Pegasus,
I did not realise that the the FAAA International Division gave out that kind of info, but i'll definately look into it now.. Anyhow, keep up your useful posts.
Cheers SocialFlyer
PS.. Onlyemirates, let's not get into a discussion about my posts.... This history of you and your posts over the years leaves little to be desired for. If you dont like my posts, DONT read them. We all have a choice now dont we!!!!
I did not realise that the the FAAA International Division gave out that kind of info, but i'll definately look into it now.. Anyhow, keep up your useful posts.
Cheers SocialFlyer
PS.. Onlyemirates, let's not get into a discussion about my posts.... This history of you and your posts over the years leaves little to be desired for. If you dont like my posts, DONT read them. We all have a choice now dont we!!!!
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A380 Crew Complement
The A380 will have 22 crew.At this stage one CSM and one CSS and depending on the config the rest of the crew will be divided between the four classes.
Someone will eventually realise that they need two Supervisors and the FA numbers may be reduced by one.
Rule of thumb indicates that for every aircraft they will require 5 crew complements..ie.110 crew/A380.
As Peg says"its a moveable feast and the complement will inevitably change.
Multiply 20 aircraft by 110 crew and ultimately there will be a requirement for 2400 crew just to operate le grande croissant
Someone will eventually realise that they need two Supervisors and the FA numbers may be reduced by one.
Rule of thumb indicates that for every aircraft they will require 5 crew complements..ie.110 crew/A380.
As Peg says"its a moveable feast and the complement will inevitably change.
Multiply 20 aircraft by 110 crew and ultimately there will be a requirement for 2400 crew just to operate le grande croissant
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Interesting times ahead...
Well I just received confirmation to attend a medical and reference checks.. Looks like things in Melbourne are moving ahead as well..
Good luck to those waiting...
Well I just received confirmation to attend a medical and reference checks.. Looks like things in Melbourne are moving ahead as well..
Good luck to those waiting...