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It is therefore expected that all candidates will be required to undertake the recruitment process in its entirety, including the new Pilot Assessment (previously known as the Psychometric Assessment).
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Did anyone notice another change to the 2010 cadetship info?
The updated info QAN put up about the degree courses in mid April has been removed. Looks like QAN has changed its mind about that too. I wonder if it'll run the cadetship in any form in 2010
2010 Course Updates
The following information is current as at 29 April 2009.
Due to the significant and dynamic changes in the Aviation Industry, the requirements for 2010 Cadet courses are currently under review. Updated information will be posted at qantas.com, as and when it is made available.
The following information is current as at 29 April 2009.
Due to the significant and dynamic changes in the Aviation Industry, the requirements for 2010 Cadet courses are currently under review. Updated information will be posted at qantas.com, as and when it is made available.
Unfortunately, ladies and gents the current job market and cadet course intake prospects are starting to resemble the way the market behaved in the late 80's, early 90's. Boom and then the inevitable(?) bust. History shows, that during this time, there was a period of a number of years where QF were not accepting any applications for any de or cadet schemes. The parallels would indicate the same occuring here.
And when the merry go round does start again, the level playing field hinted at here, may have developed a gradient to the de sides benefit.
And when the merry go round does start again, the level playing field hinted at here, may have developed a gradient to the de sides benefit.
Who wants to come to BK with me?
or BK as in Burger King (for a job)?
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look at it this way DLesmond...
-You need a Class 1 for a CPL anyway
-You need an ARN to hold a licence
-You get the satisfaction of being treated as if you were a piece of your boss' faecal matter for the next decade like everyone else, even the last couple of bunches of QF Cadets. Whilst working for less money than everybody you finished school with. (Sarcastic Tone)
-You can get the same ratings and endorsements for one hell of a lot less and with better instruction whilst living at home (therefore saving even more money)
-You can offset some of the CPL costs by training part time and working part time should you choose.
-If you take a loan, the interest rates are the lowest in living history.
-You need a Class 1 for a CPL anyway
-You need an ARN to hold a licence
-You get the satisfaction of being treated as if you were a piece of your boss' faecal matter for the next decade like everyone else, even the last couple of bunches of QF Cadets. Whilst working for less money than everybody you finished school with. (Sarcastic Tone)
-You can get the same ratings and endorsements for one hell of a lot less and with better instruction whilst living at home (therefore saving even more money)
-You can offset some of the CPL costs by training part time and working part time should you choose.
-If you take a loan, the interest rates are the lowest in living history.
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HotNHigh,
Whilst airlines react to the present economic downturn, they are also cognisant of future planning requirements. An airlines second worst case scenario would be left with there pants down & short of crew in 2014.
Whilst airlines react to the present economic downturn, they are also cognisant of future planning requirements. An airlines second worst case scenario would be left with there pants down & short of crew in 2014.
My prediction is they will cut the 1.5 year course but keep the 3 year degree, by the time the cadets are out in 5 years the world will (hopefully) be very different. If it's not they can just keep the cadets out in industry longer (or hopefully not, give the the flick)
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No not kidding Krusty.
That's why there will (most likely) be courses next year, as McGrath also alluded the timeframe required to train persons to an entry standard including commensurate experience can't be achieved overnight.
Lets wait & see if there are courses next year.
The world is a changing place. All things change, other airlines around the world just plain old recruit PILOTS. Not cadets, not direct entry, not streamed from Regional or subsidiary operations, just plain old day one newstart employees.
MC
That's why there will (most likely) be courses next year, as McGrath also alluded the timeframe required to train persons to an entry standard including commensurate experience can't be achieved overnight.
Lets wait & see if there are courses next year.
The world is a changing place. All things change, other airlines around the world just plain old recruit PILOTS. Not cadets, not direct entry, not streamed from Regional or subsidiary operations, just plain old day one newstart employees.
MC
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What were those e-mails?
A friend told me he had been told by a Training Captain the Cadetship was completely off this year but as I think I said before last time I talked to the guys in recruiting, they seemed pretty confident they would run the Bachelors course.
But executives have overruled people before! I imagine we will find out Monday, new month and the date when applications were meant to open before it all came under review again.
(Fixed; Cheers Coke Drinker!
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A friend told me he had been told by a Training Captain the Cadetship was completely off this year but as I think I said before last time I talked to the guys in recruiting, they seemed pretty confident they would run the Bachelors course.
But executives have overruled people before! I imagine we will find out Monday, new month and the date when applications were meant to open before it all came under review again.
(Fixed; Cheers Coke Drinker!
)
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Qantas dont run the Degree course. That coyurse is run by Swinburne. Occassionally Qantas will place a student on the degree course and even though Qantas do not contribute financially to this course, they go out of their way to ensure those "cadets" are well known to the rest of the course and are ostracised from the rest of the group.
Unfortunately Qantas hasn't realised how long it takes to train a cadet and have decided not ot run a cadet course in 2009. But then why would Qantas want to plan for future pilot requirements, they can quite easily take pilots from the regional airlines whenever they want leaving the regionals short of pilots.
As well as taking the instructors from the flight schools. When Qantas decides to start hiring again most of the better flight schools will lose their senior instructors to Qantas leaving them with a shortage of experienced senior instructors. This has got to affect program deliveries.
Unfortunately Qantas hasn't realised how long it takes to train a cadet and have decided not ot run a cadet course in 2009. But then why would Qantas want to plan for future pilot requirements, they can quite easily take pilots from the regional airlines whenever they want leaving the regionals short of pilots.
As well as taking the instructors from the flight schools. When Qantas decides to start hiring again most of the better flight schools will lose their senior instructors to Qantas leaving them with a shortage of experienced senior instructors. This has got to affect program deliveries.
Didn't get in to the cadetship did you?I've been told to wait a little longer until the final decision is made, to me that seems better news. It takes a second to say no, weeks to say yes we want x number. That's the theory I'm going on, don't anyone ruin it!
