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Old 5th Jul 2009, 11:37
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Yes in SA, but where?
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Old 5th Jul 2009, 11:41
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Looked like Moonera Station.......... and I know that Van.
actually, on further inspection...... It doesn't look like Moonera. Maybe Tarcoola?........ I still know that Van though.
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Hah, me knows them North/South sand ridges.....lemessee, was that the salt bush where old Spider took a crap before he buggered off with the Afghan camel drivers missis in 1882.......
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Mungerannie!

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Was going to say that the panel looked a bit like VH-CRN
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so how accurate is that compass with the gPS right there? i know putting my 96C next to the compass on a J230 will knock it out by about 20deg.
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Old 5th Jul 2009, 12:31
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The Van is parked at Cowarie station in the pic.

Dr. technically you are correct. The professional "looking" setup with the elaborate sign-writing is at Mungerannie, but the Van isn't depicted there.












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Old 5th Jul 2009, 21:48
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Cowarie.. hot dang...how good it the old tin navigaterin' brain? Right slap dang west-ish of Moomby and Innaminkery
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Old 6th Jul 2009, 02:09
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Why is the van scooting along level at 750ft at 140KIAS?
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Old 6th Jul 2009, 02:59
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Why is the van scooting along level at 750ft at 140KIAS?
Because it looks to be taking off and climbing at 100fpm. Don't all van's climb out at 140 knots?
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Ahh Mungerannie. What a lovely spot.

Shame they have closed the strip or so I gather from the Lake Eyre post.

We dropped in for a night in April. Great pub.
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Old 6th Jul 2009, 06:28
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Ultralights / Forkie

Back to the Duchess and its temps...... as much as the left was probably hotter by a fair bit, as you should know, the Beech gauges can be incredibly inaccurate .

Ignorance is bliss they say!
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Old 6th Jul 2009, 12:47
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155-160kts?

Fair go Chuck!

My tired clapped-out [ but rapidly getting better] 1988 M20j 205se comfortably sits on 163kts @70% between 6-9000'....but the book says 173kts @75% at 8000' in ISA....that would be flat chat by the way...firewall the lot!

Haven't tried that but it's good for them occassionally [I'm told],in moderate bursts....helps prevent glazing bores if you've been tooling around in the flight levels ,which I do occassionally [again, so I'm told].

But we did prove 6 pots climb better than 4....

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Old 6th Jul 2009, 13:05
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...... as much as the left was probably hotter by a fair bit, as you should know, the Beech gauges can be incredibly inaccurate
Hot cylinder head and hot oil = hot engine!

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Hot cylinder head and hot oil = hot engine!
Thanks Doc...wondered what they meant!
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Not always so Forkie. That pic is at 1500' and may be just after takeoff. A CHT of just over 400F on a hot day may well be OK. Oil temp is about 205-210 so lets just say about 97C. Again this is OK and good for getting rid of water content.

Now the other engine........it could be that the instrument connections are not good and its just as hot! or hotter!!!

My point is, now that you have seen how grossly far out the Beech gauges are able to be when you have proper engine monitoring, you really can not judge much at all from that pic. It is quite possible those gauges are all correct and one is genuinely hot, but how sure are you!

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What are the chances that BOTH the CHT and OIL temps are dodgey?

We don't know the story, the engine might be very tired and on condition, just waiting for the unsuspecting newly endorsed PPL pilot to jump on the controls before it fails spectacularly.
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RE IPH - Could also be that the left cowl flap on that particular duchie tends to creep from fully open towards half all on its lonesome. Look - no hands.

I'm also guessing from the parking position of the exterior photo at Bankstown (outside the old schofields building) it was taken quite some time ago, and the aircraft is now very limited in who flies it, and its nice engines. Owner has spent plenty on it, and its certainly no "flying school aircraft".
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Old 7th Jul 2009, 03:24
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and its certainly no "flying school aircraft".
Can't really call a Duchess an "Aircraft" anyway
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What are the chances that BOTH the CHT and OIL temps are dodgey?

We don't know the story, the engine might be very tired and on condition, just waiting for the unsuspecting newly endorsed PPL pilot to jump on the controls before it fails spectacularly.
Or indeed it could just be one engine is leaned far more than the other. (trying to match up the levers instead of the gauges??)
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