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A thread where ex PNG geriatrics lapuns and long longs can live in the dim distant past.
Where tall stories are accepted as fact. War stories are applauded. Grab a Brownie, pull up a story and join in a trip down memory lane!!! 
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PNG Ples Bilong Tok Tok
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Read all 38 pages, for me some wonderfull memories,TAL58/59, TAA 60/63
Cessnas Otter et al. Best five years of 40 in aviation, Regards Bill Sherwood snr
Cessnas Otter et al. Best five years of 40 in aviation, Regards Bill Sherwood snr
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Welcome to hap bilong ol lapun!!! You'll find many of your old wantoks here. Grab a beer, pull up a stool and swap a few war stories - the taller the story, the better!
I nodded in passing but regret not chatting with you longer at the Talair reunion. And most of all, I regret not taking the opportunity for a group photo of the past Chief Pilots - yourself, "Biggles" Sinclair, "Pants" Parker, etc (was Billy Johns there - I can't remember?)
Do you recall if anyone took a collective photo of past Chief Pilots as I would really like to obtain a copy?
'58/'59 eh? You know DHA84 VH-AON is rumoured to be back in the air? Perhaps you were in Goroka when it was ferried to Australia for the last time in August 1959 (?) by Dick Cresswell?
Welcome to hap bilong ol lapun!!! You'll find many of your old wantoks here. Grab a beer, pull up a stool and swap a few war stories - the taller the story, the better!
I nodded in passing but regret not chatting with you longer at the Talair reunion. And most of all, I regret not taking the opportunity for a group photo of the past Chief Pilots - yourself, "Biggles" Sinclair, "Pants" Parker, etc (was Billy Johns there - I can't remember?)
Do you recall if anyone took a collective photo of past Chief Pilots as I would really like to obtain a copy?
'58/'59 eh? You know DHA84 VH-AON is rumoured to be back in the air? Perhaps you were in Goroka when it was ferried to Australia for the last time in August 1959 (?) by Dick Cresswell?
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Read all 38 pages, for me some wonderfull memories,TAL58/59, TAA 60/63
Cessnas Otter et al. Best five years of 40 in aviation, Regards Bill Sherwood snr
Cessnas Otter et al. Best five years of 40 in aviation, Regards Bill Sherwood snr
Hello senior.
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I recall way back when the dreaded Pangapas (PNG Air Pilots Association) were having a wee bit of trouble with Bryan Gray and his mate Bruce The Crafty, of 'The Cloak of Many Colours' fame, over a pay rise for 707 draiva's and other things. The pilot group had Croft's AFAP successor, Len Coysh up from 138 Albert Street, South Melbourne to assist.
After a day or so, attitudes of both parties hardened somewhat and there appeared to be little room left to make headway. After negotiations one day, the pilots reformed at the Ela Beach Hotel to study their plans for the following day over a few and a few more products from the dreaded SP tree!
Tempers were slowly rising when as king Fed I was called to the phone to find Bryan Grey on 'tother end inviting all the pilots up to his manager's residence to partake in a few convivial ales. Needless to say, Val, Bill, Len and they boys followed Sharpie up the hill, willing to do battle if need be.
We found god Bryan with Bruce the Crafty there along with others of Bryan's team, O.P Evans, Paul Bolger, Brian Costello to name a few.
We quickly joined in, standing around the pool, having a few coldies. Needless to say, Sharpie was first in the pool, clothes and all.(Not before losing substantial skin from elbows and knees) Then it was on for young and old, pilots grappling with senior managers who were dragged and tossed in.
Costello and Bolger hid in their car, doors locked and aircon on. We tried to flush them out by stuffing wet socks up ther pipe but reving the engine, these were blown out.
Bruce The Crafty of the Cloak of Many Colours, pleaded not to be throw in fully dressed as he had another appointment later. I quietly waited until he undressed to his briefs and after the troops threw him in, his pile of clothes followed.
What a night. I am quite sure that Bryan's idea of getting us up to his house that day saved the airline and country a substantial amount of money as the verbal agreements made dripping wet, were confirmed in writing the following day.
One another item. Sharpie holds another PNG record that I doubt will ever ever be repeated or broken.
Sharpie was the only member to be voted 'life membership' of PNGAPA! AND,
the only member to be voted out of 'life membership'.
After a day or so, attitudes of both parties hardened somewhat and there appeared to be little room left to make headway. After negotiations one day, the pilots reformed at the Ela Beach Hotel to study their plans for the following day over a few and a few more products from the dreaded SP tree!
Tempers were slowly rising when as king Fed I was called to the phone to find Bryan Grey on 'tother end inviting all the pilots up to his manager's residence to partake in a few convivial ales. Needless to say, Val, Bill, Len and they boys followed Sharpie up the hill, willing to do battle if need be.
We found god Bryan with Bruce the Crafty there along with others of Bryan's team, O.P Evans, Paul Bolger, Brian Costello to name a few.
We quickly joined in, standing around the pool, having a few coldies. Needless to say, Sharpie was first in the pool, clothes and all.(Not before losing substantial skin from elbows and knees) Then it was on for young and old, pilots grappling with senior managers who were dragged and tossed in.
Costello and Bolger hid in their car, doors locked and aircon on. We tried to flush them out by stuffing wet socks up ther pipe but reving the engine, these were blown out.
Bruce The Crafty of the Cloak of Many Colours, pleaded not to be throw in fully dressed as he had another appointment later. I quietly waited until he undressed to his briefs and after the troops threw him in, his pile of clothes followed.
What a night. I am quite sure that Bryan's idea of getting us up to his house that day saved the airline and country a substantial amount of money as the verbal agreements made dripping wet, were confirmed in writing the following day.
One another item. Sharpie holds another PNG record that I doubt will ever ever be repeated or broken.
Sharpie was the only member to be voted 'life membership' of PNGAPA! AND,
the only member to be voted out of 'life membership'.
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Sharpie holds another PNG record that I doubt will ever be repeated or broken.......
And likewise with the Wiz, TailieI'm still trying to (re)learn it!!
You only live twice. Once when
you're born. Once when
you've looked death in the face.
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Bloody Hell Sharpie..........nothing wrong with your memory bank.....cripes I had forgoten all about that little event......seems some of the modern "Gods" and 'Gladiators" could take a lesson in Industrial negotiations.....would tempt me to get involved again .....On second thoughts maybe Minosavvy is now considered a Lapoon Tru !!....btw I think the Ella Beach hotel was then known as the "Davara" Cheers Mate 
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Well I certainly remember voting you out Sharpie
But to put your mind at ease, a little, we never apparently actually got around to writing to IFALPA and informing them...or so I was told recently by the ex President of PNGALPA...you remember him...the clever chap with the lightening wit and repartee...the fella who you so ably assisted to leave PX without the drama and added expense of pay in lieu of notice etc...he really appreciated your assistance in that matter...we laugh about it to this day
Chuckles
Pinky it aint for this BB....unless of course Sharpie would like to enlighten us on his take on those far off events...suffice to say emotions were high
But to put your mind at ease, a little, we never apparently actually got around to writing to IFALPA and informing them...or so I was told recently by the ex President of PNGALPA...you remember him...the clever chap with the lightening wit and repartee...the fella who you so ably assisted to leave PX without the drama and added expense of pay in lieu of notice etc...he really appreciated your assistance in that matter...we laugh about it to this day
Chuckles
Pinky it aint for this BB....unless of course Sharpie would like to enlighten us on his take on those far off events...suffice to say emotions were high
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Were'nt they always that way in the 'Land of the unexpected' in those situations?
What never failed to impress me when I was a regular at the 'Club Dero' was how stories of past events always seemed to be related without rancour or bitterness even when things were obviously somewhat nasty at the time.
I always gained the impression that the teller of these stories had the attitude that......."It was a bit nasty at the time but it was ages ago and jeez, it was fun!!"
A time past, in more ways than one.
You only live twice. Once when
you're born. Once when
you've looked death in the face.
suffice to say emotions were high
What never failed to impress me when I was a regular at the 'Club Dero' was how stories of past events always seemed to be related without rancour or bitterness even when things were obviously somewhat nasty at the time.
I always gained the impression that the teller of these stories had the attitude that......."It was a bit nasty at the time but it was ages ago and jeez, it was fun!!"
A time past, in more ways than one.
You only live twice. Once when
you're born. Once when
you've looked death in the face.
That's the DCA Piaggio in front, and the Helio is probably the one that Helicopter Utilities/Airfast owned. Herbie Ray used to fly it about when maintaining their fleet of choppers - then mostly Bell 47's.
I think the Helio was a 295 engined model. It was quite a performer.
happy days,
I think the Helio was a 295 engined model. It was quite a performer.
happy days,
Silly Old Git
There is a terribly funny story (probably untrue) about the chap standing in this photo and the Moresby ATIS
http://www.airwaysmuseum.com/facilit...0TWR%20int.jpg
http://www.airwaysmuseum.com/facilit...0TWR%20int.jpg
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Woomera , At the reunion I was with Gerd Franks, and Neil Williams,
There was isolated shots taken but no one, appeared to get group shots.
Re the Dragon, I mentioned it in the Spencer Books, but to my memory
it was still there when I went to Lae in mid 60. It was very stark, the fuse
was upright against the hangar wall , the wings beside it. No idea where
the gear and engines were.Bill Johns was at the reunion, had a short talk with him. My son had a short time in Moresby, on the Citation that was
on lease to MBA, and I gather is still there but now operating by itself.
Before arriving in PNG I was a friend of Noel Peacock that early in the 50s
had a bad one in a Dragon on the ridges to the west of goroka, he was shipped south for medical attention, he ended up flying in Canada on the
Dew line Radar instalation. It could have been AOG that he was in, will contact him and get the facts. Bill S
There was isolated shots taken but no one, appeared to get group shots.
Re the Dragon, I mentioned it in the Spencer Books, but to my memory
it was still there when I went to Lae in mid 60. It was very stark, the fuse
was upright against the hangar wall , the wings beside it. No idea where
the gear and engines were.Bill Johns was at the reunion, had a short talk with him. My son had a short time in Moresby, on the Citation that was
on lease to MBA, and I gather is still there but now operating by itself.
Before arriving in PNG I was a friend of Noel Peacock that early in the 50s
had a bad one in a Dragon on the ridges to the west of goroka, he was shipped south for medical attention, he ended up flying in Canada on the
Dew line Radar instalation. It could have been AOG that he was in, will contact him and get the facts. Bill S
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Ah, Tinpis, a piccie of my old office. Enup to bring a tear to a glass eye. Bet it hasn't changed much either.... so tell me the story?
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Escondido99. A correction. VH-AON was ferried south in August 1959 (?) by Dick Cresswell. It was at Airworld at Wangaratta for many years (sporting a "Puff the Magic Dragon" insignia) but has since been sold to someone in Victoria and I believe is now back in the air. The relic in the hangar was, from memory, VH-AAC which was pranged at Slate Creek (near Wau) in January 1951, bought in damaged condition by Ray Harris and Jim Smith and never flew again, and is buried somewhere at the Goroka tip, along with the Fox Moth and the Meserschmitt three wheeler. If it was AAC, it started life as G-AAAC, the first Royal Flight aircraft in 1934 and was pranged at Slate Creek (near Wau) in January 1951.
AON was a DHA84 (Australian built), whilst AAC was a DH84 (UK built).
Noel Peacock pranged a Dragon near the old Chimbu strip and took many months to recover. I tried to trace him 25 years ago but think he may have changed his name? The aircraft may have been VH-APL, which pranged at Chimbu September 1952?
Tinpis. My guess that Helio Courier is/was VH/P2-BOX? Last seen by me some years ago outside Yorkie's hangar. I may be wrong, but isn't that Pig at the Museum at Caloundra?
AON was a DHA84 (Australian built), whilst AAC was a DH84 (UK built).
Noel Peacock pranged a Dragon near the old Chimbu strip and took many months to recover. I tried to trace him 25 years ago but think he may have changed his name? The aircraft may have been VH-APL, which pranged at Chimbu September 1952?
Tinpis. My guess that Helio Courier is/was VH/P2-BOX? Last seen by me some years ago outside Yorkie's hangar. I may be wrong, but isn't that Pig at the Museum at Caloundra?
