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A thread where ex PNG geriatrics lapuns and long longs can live in the dim distant past.
Where tall stories are accepted as fact. War stories are applauded. Grab a Brownie, pull up a story and join in a trip down memory lane!!! 
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PNG Ples Bilong Tok Tok
Grandpa Aerotart
We didn't get GPS in PNG until about 91 or 92.
Before that we were route endorsed to each new strip until such time as we had enough experience in various parts of PNG and then gained a CAO28 exemption.
Basically this meant you learned PNG in small pieces as you were based here and there over the first couple of years.
The essential level of knowledge to safely fly around was akin to that you would have of your home suburb when driving your car. In bad, but still flyable, weather a GPS is of very limited value in PNG. I remember taking a chap new to PNG from Moresby to Lae in my C185 years ago. He had one of the then very new a flash Garmin 100s and set it up with the aerial suction capped to the windscreen. The weather was crap so I tracked NW from POM to the saw mountain at the southern end of the Tua river and headed north from there. The highest altitude we saw on the altimeter that day was 4800'....and that was not until crossing that ridge between Menyamya and Tsile tsile. After that trip he packed away his new fangled gadget and said he might leave it packed away for 6 mths or so.
Before that we were route endorsed to each new strip until such time as we had enough experience in various parts of PNG and then gained a CAO28 exemption.
Basically this meant you learned PNG in small pieces as you were based here and there over the first couple of years.
The essential level of knowledge to safely fly around was akin to that you would have of your home suburb when driving your car. In bad, but still flyable, weather a GPS is of very limited value in PNG. I remember taking a chap new to PNG from Moresby to Lae in my C185 years ago. He had one of the then very new a flash Garmin 100s and set it up with the aerial suction capped to the windscreen. The weather was crap so I tracked NW from POM to the saw mountain at the southern end of the Tua river and headed north from there. The highest altitude we saw on the altimeter that day was 4800'....and that was not until crossing that ridge between Menyamya and Tsile tsile. After that trip he packed away his new fangled gadget and said he might leave it packed away for 6 mths or so.
Silly Old Git
Anyone remember how the ANO28 exemption worked?
I think it was about a 1000 hours in 3 different provinces of PNG but had to include a Highland area?
I recall getting about an extra $1500 pa in me pay packet
God that musta hurt $Dollar Sinclair.
It was of course a licence to get lost.
I think it was about a 1000 hours in 3 different provinces of PNG but had to include a Highland area?
I recall getting about an extra $1500 pa in me pay packet
God that musta hurt $Dollar Sinclair.
It was of course a licence to get lost.
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The regions for the ANO 28 exemption were Highlands, Madang, Islands, Sepik, Western, Northern, Morobe and Milne Bay and if I recall I think it was 4 regions but had to include the Highlands. In 1981 the money wasn't much but went nicely on top of the cash fares to assist in keeping SP in business.
High 6
Welcome to Bull S--- Corner - hap bilong ol lapun!!
You obviously survived the Reunion!!!
Woomera
High 6
Welcome to Bull S--- Corner - hap bilong ol lapun!!
You obviously survived the Reunion!!!
Woomera
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Ahh yes, the ANO 28! I remember it well. Only had a 'partial' m'self.
But do all who served there remember 'the other Ano 28?'
For those who came in late......this was a private thing amongst (some) pilots and involved...er...(ahem) meris from each province!!
It is suspected that more than one poster on these pages can claim to substantially more than a 'partial'. In my time with Dz there was a rumour that there was one whom had a 'complete exemption' but I never heard who it was.
You only live twice. Once when
you're born. Once when
you've looked death in the face.
A certain airline owner?? And he didn't even have a pilot's license!
Woomera
But do all who served there remember 'the other Ano 28?'
For those who came in late......this was a private thing amongst (some) pilots and involved...er...(ahem) meris from each province!!
It is suspected that more than one poster on these pages can claim to substantially more than a 'partial'. In my time with Dz there was a rumour that there was one whom had a 'complete exemption' but I never heard who it was.
You only live twice. Once when
you're born. Once when
you've looked death in the face.
A certain airline owner?? And he didn't even have a pilot's license!
Woomera
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Lookim yu Pinky,
I think a certain North Coast owner (or 2) might have got pretty close to the alternate ANO 28. Looking at high 6's list there is a pretty good chance! You don't actually say which one you had a partial in, by the way, or was it both
By the time most blokes finished at North Coast you had at least a partial in the official one, and i think if you went to Pop. for any length of time you ended up with the full monty. It was certainly an asset when it came to getting a job with the twotter operators. Didn't provide you with any immunity to cumulo granitus or help you find your way around the Sepik though, just meant you had enough sense not to kill yourself around the NC haunts.
Sexual Chocolate, did you get a ride with NC around the Kabwum valley or down to the west ports around Kanabea and Howabango? The old self preservation gene kicked in pretty well and you got real good at knowing where you were. I can still remember my way around all those places now and i haven't been there for years. Worst feeling you can ever have in PNG is not being sure
You usually only had the chance to do it once. Still laugh at doing upside down circuits into Kanabea, f..k knows why we tried so hard for a load of tinpis na rice, did it once and a twotter called rolling when i was wedged into the valley on a tight base with only 1 set of end cones to look at, never saw him, spoke to him after and he said he only called rolling cause he was training! Ya gotta laugh.
I think a certain North Coast owner (or 2) might have got pretty close to the alternate ANO 28. Looking at high 6's list there is a pretty good chance! You don't actually say which one you had a partial in, by the way, or was it both
By the time most blokes finished at North Coast you had at least a partial in the official one, and i think if you went to Pop. for any length of time you ended up with the full monty. It was certainly an asset when it came to getting a job with the twotter operators. Didn't provide you with any immunity to cumulo granitus or help you find your way around the Sepik though, just meant you had enough sense not to kill yourself around the NC haunts.
Sexual Chocolate, did you get a ride with NC around the Kabwum valley or down to the west ports around Kanabea and Howabango? The old self preservation gene kicked in pretty well and you got real good at knowing where you were. I can still remember my way around all those places now and i haven't been there for years. Worst feeling you can ever have in PNG is not being sure
You usually only had the chance to do it once. Still laugh at doing upside down circuits into Kanabea, f..k knows why we tried so hard for a load of tinpis na rice, did it once and a twotter called rolling when i was wedged into the valley on a tight base with only 1 set of end cones to look at, never saw him, spoke to him after and he said he only called rolling cause he was training! Ya gotta laugh.
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Upside down in Kanabea??!! Geeezus! Unfortunately never got to visit that particular strip - every time we dropped by she was raining with cloud on ground. Real shame as I hear the takeoff procedure is, well, rather cool. Though did see Kabwum mainly kainteba then down to Karema, bit of time down Garina way and Wau, etc. Oh how I miss it already!
From what I hear about the meris up highland way, i'm not sure which would be more testing when it came to those provinces - the real exemption, or the 'other' one...
From what I hear about the meris up highland way, i'm not sure which would be more testing when it came to those provinces - the real exemption, or the 'other' one...
Silly Old Git
Kanabea was where PNH a Porter was wrecked.
Lovely gusty bugger of a place
I believe the Porters spinner made the threshold.
Marawaka was a bugger for low cloud and rain.
Tin arriving one ****ty morning from Goroka down the ridge into the valley in the rain drizzle and muck pushing the stick hard down into the trees and arriving at the wrong end of the strip in dot viz and landing the wrong way !!
After me knees had stopped knocking I taxy back and the Kiap said bugger me where did you come from? Come and have a cuppa. Thank god for 185's.
The boi on the bloody HF had sent a weather report to old "Rocky " in Goroka it was 8/8ths blue.
He told me sori tumas he meant 8/8th blue cloud .
I know this is nothing to the "Aces" up there at the time but it sure got me focused .
I never trusted Rocky again...er did anyone ever?
Nother time out of Marawaka picked up a very sick kid with a new southern doc on board.
The kid expired on climb out and the doc said we may as well turn back.
I had to persuade him the Kukakukas wouldnt like putting a live kid on a plane and ten minutes later have him returned dead ..
We continued to Goroka.
Lovely gusty bugger of a place
I believe the Porters spinner made the threshold.
Marawaka was a bugger for low cloud and rain.
Tin arriving one ****ty morning from Goroka down the ridge into the valley in the rain drizzle and muck pushing the stick hard down into the trees and arriving at the wrong end of the strip in dot viz and landing the wrong way !!
After me knees had stopped knocking I taxy back and the Kiap said bugger me where did you come from? Come and have a cuppa. Thank god for 185's.
The boi on the bloody HF had sent a weather report to old "Rocky " in Goroka it was 8/8ths blue.
He told me sori tumas he meant 8/8th blue cloud .
I know this is nothing to the "Aces" up there at the time but it sure got me focused .
I never trusted Rocky again...er did anyone ever?
Nother time out of Marawaka picked up a very sick kid with a new southern doc on board.
The kid expired on climb out and the doc said we may as well turn back.
I had to persuade him the Kukakukas wouldnt like putting a live kid on a plane and ten minutes later have him returned dead ..
We continued to Goroka.
Grandpa Aerotart
Reminds of an occasion when based in Wau on the Twin Otter..old RDB, Dennis' first Twotter.
After talking to sooty at Kiantiba via HF I departed Wau and 17 minutes later am approaching overhead (by dead reckoning, long before GPS) at 'a safe height' in solid IMC and driving rain etc. Anyway I called up une petite pussy noir and again asked him for the weather "Emi gutpella tru masta...cloud I stap antap na ples balus i dri moa yet"
At this exact moment the cloud around lights up in a brillliant flash and over the deafening rain I heard the thunder clap "Kiantiba... yu inap harim balus?" "Em nau masta...mi harim balus I stap antap tru!"
"WELL THAT'S ME YOU MORON!!!"
So I went back to Wau
After talking to sooty at Kiantiba via HF I departed Wau and 17 minutes later am approaching overhead (by dead reckoning, long before GPS) at 'a safe height' in solid IMC and driving rain etc. Anyway I called up une petite pussy noir and again asked him for the weather "Emi gutpella tru masta...cloud I stap antap na ples balus i dri moa yet"
At this exact moment the cloud around lights up in a brillliant flash and over the deafening rain I heard the thunder clap
"Kiantiba... yu inap harim balus?" "Em nau masta...mi harim balus I stap antap tru!" "WELL THAT'S ME YOU MORON!!!"
So I went back to Wau
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"just another day at the office"
apinun olgeta - i'm very new to the site but this is great stuff you've got going - i posted my "book on TAA-NG (1960/1973)" as a seperate topic on sat and it's been getting a few hits and has produced several welcome emails - pls have a look if you haven't already especially those lapun types from sunbird days - i've noted some interest in the lyrical work of the woolworths bomber and similar - frequenters of the TAA mess will recall that "eskimo nell" was sometimes rendered on "special" occasions - there were two noted performers as i remember - the first was stewie hobbs (traffic) known as "long 'un" - and then leon arthur (RIP) known as DC for "drunken cook - both very good - and the drunker they got the better they were - or did it just seem that way to those of us in similar condition - i wrote "just another day at the office" as an ode to pilots and others working on christmas day 1969 - the scenario was based on flt 1376 (lae/mag/wwk/mas/kvg/rab) not so fondly known as "the anti-nooki special" by married lae based pilots dead-heading to mag for the week - the correspoding return flt (1383 i think) was much more fondly known as "the nooki special" - hope you enjoy
“JUST ANOTHER DAY AT THE OFFICE”
IT WAS JUST ANOTHER DAY AT THE OFFICE
DRIVING AN OLD DC3
THAT STARTED OUT ALMOST “OPS NORMAL”
WITH TRANSPORT RUNNING QUITE LATE, YOU SEE
NO WORRIES WE’LL GO A BIT FASTER
AND STILL GET THE SHOW ON THE ROAD
WE’LL FLIGHT PLAN, AND FUEL UP, AND TAXI ON-TIME …
IF ONLY THE AIRCRAFT HAD BEEN ON THE LINE
THE F/O WAS HAVING HIS OWN STRIFE
HE WAS KNOWN FOR HIS FULL SOCIAL LIFE
AND HAD THOUGHT HE WAS ON A ROSTERED DAY-OFF
HE WAS ALMOST A TOUCH IMPOLITE
BECAUSE THE VOICE ON THE PHONE WAS OFFICIAL
ASKING “WHY AREN’T YOU HERE FOR YOUR FLIGHT?”
WHAT HE’D HAD ON HIS MIND FOR THE EVENING …
WASN’T EXACTLY A RABAUL OVERNIGHT
BUT WE PUT THOSE SMALL PROBLEMS BEHIND US
AND THEY EVENTUALLY FOUND US A PLANE
WE STARTED KICKING THE TYRES AND LOOKING UP AT THE SKIES
AND ACTUALLY FELT REASONABLY SANE
BUT THE FUEL SITUATION QUICKLY BROUGHT US UNDONE
SHED BEEN FUELED FOR KIETA, PLUS “A BIT MORE FOR MUM”
OUR FIRST STOP WAS MADANG, WE NEEDED ABOUT HALF …
THE CHOICES WERE OBVIOUS, CRY OR JUST LAUGH
NOW THESE THINGS ARE SENT BUT TO TRY US
AND WE FINALLY GOT UNDERWAY
A FULL LOAD DOWN THE BACK, THE WEATHER TURNING QUITE BLACK
IT CAN COME DOWN IN BUCKETS AT LAE
AND LAST LIGHT RABAUL WOULD BE A BIT TIGHT
JUST A HALF-CHANCE WE’D MAKE IT, BUT OPS SAID “SHE’D BE RIGHT”
IT BEATS DRIVING CABS, BUT THAT’S HARD TO REMEMBER …
WHEN ON TOP OF ALL THAT, IT’S THE TWENTY-FIFTH DECEMBER.
MERRY CHRISTMAS … 1969.
Copyright Barry Hockings 21st December, 1969.
“JUST ANOTHER DAY AT THE OFFICE”
IT WAS JUST ANOTHER DAY AT THE OFFICE
DRIVING AN OLD DC3
THAT STARTED OUT ALMOST “OPS NORMAL”
WITH TRANSPORT RUNNING QUITE LATE, YOU SEE
NO WORRIES WE’LL GO A BIT FASTER
AND STILL GET THE SHOW ON THE ROAD
WE’LL FLIGHT PLAN, AND FUEL UP, AND TAXI ON-TIME …
IF ONLY THE AIRCRAFT HAD BEEN ON THE LINE
THE F/O WAS HAVING HIS OWN STRIFE
HE WAS KNOWN FOR HIS FULL SOCIAL LIFE
AND HAD THOUGHT HE WAS ON A ROSTERED DAY-OFF
HE WAS ALMOST A TOUCH IMPOLITE
BECAUSE THE VOICE ON THE PHONE WAS OFFICIAL
ASKING “WHY AREN’T YOU HERE FOR YOUR FLIGHT?”
WHAT HE’D HAD ON HIS MIND FOR THE EVENING …
WASN’T EXACTLY A RABAUL OVERNIGHT
BUT WE PUT THOSE SMALL PROBLEMS BEHIND US
AND THEY EVENTUALLY FOUND US A PLANE
WE STARTED KICKING THE TYRES AND LOOKING UP AT THE SKIES
AND ACTUALLY FELT REASONABLY SANE
BUT THE FUEL SITUATION QUICKLY BROUGHT US UNDONE
SHED BEEN FUELED FOR KIETA, PLUS “A BIT MORE FOR MUM”
OUR FIRST STOP WAS MADANG, WE NEEDED ABOUT HALF …
THE CHOICES WERE OBVIOUS, CRY OR JUST LAUGH
NOW THESE THINGS ARE SENT BUT TO TRY US
AND WE FINALLY GOT UNDERWAY
A FULL LOAD DOWN THE BACK, THE WEATHER TURNING QUITE BLACK
IT CAN COME DOWN IN BUCKETS AT LAE
AND LAST LIGHT RABAUL WOULD BE A BIT TIGHT
JUST A HALF-CHANCE WE’D MAKE IT, BUT OPS SAID “SHE’D BE RIGHT”
IT BEATS DRIVING CABS, BUT THAT’S HARD TO REMEMBER …
WHEN ON TOP OF ALL THAT, IT’S THE TWENTY-FIFTH DECEMBER.
MERRY CHRISTMAS … 1969.
Copyright Barry Hockings 21st December, 1969.
Hate to be picky Chuck, but P2-RDA was actually the first GV DHC-6. It was initially registered VH-GKR, then became P2-RDA after PNG started its own register. RDB was the first ex-TAA machine.
RDA was much favoured by branch managers and pilots alike, as it was a very light aircraft, lacking an autopilot and a few other goodies. Additionally, the ex-TAA aircraft had a hybrid electrical system that made them heavier too.
RDA was much favoured by branch managers and pilots alike, as it was a very light aircraft, lacking an autopilot and a few other goodies. Additionally, the ex-TAA aircraft had a hybrid electrical system that made them heavier too.
Grandpa Aerotart
Well ok....RDB = Ranald Dennis Buchanan...and she was probably the nicest Twotter to fly in my time...much lighter on the controls than any other 200 let alone the 300s...looked like a bucket of junk and leaked like a sieve in rain but a sweet old girl non the less. Definitely not a Friday aeroplane!!!
When did empty weight ever effect load carried in a Talair machine?
What Talair Otter didn't lack an autopilot?
That funky TAA electrical system was a bit different...Seems like it wasn't only Ansett that thought they knew better than the manufacturers?
When did empty weight ever effect load carried in a Talair machine?
What Talair Otter didn't lack an autopilot?
That funky TAA electrical system was a bit different...Seems like it wasn't only Ansett that thought they knew better than the manufacturers?
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"book on TAA-NG"
tks tinpis - one-time aviator and since seafarer fred f****** summed it up at the TAA/ANSETT-NG gabfest on sat17 last when he said - "geez mate - all you have to do is write down what happened and add a few juicy bits and you'll have a bestseller" - pause - thinks a bit - "on second thoughts you shouldn't have to add anything" - cheers
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Shocking Hocking - welcome aboard the Lapun's thread!!!
Geeze - dunno how I missed the thread about your proposed book, but best wishes in the endeavour!
Woomera
Geeze - dunno how I missed the thread about your proposed book, but best wishes in the endeavour!
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Was based in LAX when Bryan (Brian?) McCook picked up GV's first Otter from Golden West (may not have been GV's first Otter). He wanted a drive into the Sierra Mountains just out of LAX, so he got the Otter Selling Agent to drive him! Unfortunately I was invited too. First stop was a Liquor Store - where else!
There was I sitting behind two guys swigging, naah - gulping, Nappa Valley red out of a flagon whilst driving along roads with a helluva drop down one and sometimes both sides. It was safer flying in the highlands in cloud!
I couldn't accept the offered ride in the Otter from Oakland (that's where he said he was originating) to Hawaii... would have been a good trip - I think.
There was I sitting behind two guys swigging, naah - gulping, Nappa Valley red out of a flagon whilst driving along roads with a helluva drop down one and sometimes both sides. It was safer flying in the highlands in cloud!
I couldn't accept the offered ride in the Otter from Oakland (that's where he said he was originating) to Hawaii... would have been a good trip - I think.
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Woomera, Chimbu Chuckles, et al. Yupela olgeta bikpela men bilong dispela ples toktok. Mi kisim dispela tingting:
Is it time to establish some sort of registry whereby all us ex PNG boys can post our current contact details, etc? (This may have been done already??).
I would certainly appreciate being able to catch up with a few of my contemporarys from my time in PNG (86-89).
Lukim yupela behaim.
Is it time to establish some sort of registry whereby all us ex PNG boys can post our current contact details, etc? (This may have been done already??).
I would certainly appreciate being able to catch up with a few of my contemporarys from my time in PNG (86-89).
Lukim yupela behaim.
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Animal. It was "Brian". "Bryan" was of the Grey variety. The aircraft was DHC-6-200 VH-GKR - I forget the Ser No, maybe 086? - and the year was 1972. It was the first Twotter and TAL's first turbine aircraft.
Brian with cabin attendant Betty, ferried it to Goroka. We gave Junior a model of that aircraft at the Talair 30th bash in 1982 or 1983. Last seen in his office at Flight West in 1999.
Bozzo. There is a Talair Reunion web site with zillions of names, some best forgotten! PM to remind me and I'll dig out the web site address at work.
I think barryhoc also also has a list of names from the TAA (and possibly AAPNG) era.
Sharpie posts here and can possibly give you ex Pixie staff contact details.
Hanoi also seems to have a finger on the pulse of ex PNG aviation staff.
Woomera
Brian with cabin attendant Betty, ferried it to Goroka. We gave Junior a model of that aircraft at the Talair 30th bash in 1982 or 1983. Last seen in his office at Flight West in 1999.
Bozzo. There is a Talair Reunion web site with zillions of names, some best forgotten!
PM to remind me and I'll dig out the web site address at work. I think barryhoc also also has a list of names from the TAA (and possibly AAPNG) era.
Sharpie posts here and can possibly give you ex Pixie staff contact details.
Hanoi also seems to have a finger on the pulse of ex PNG aviation staff.
Woomera
Silly Old Git
Erm..Woomi wasnt it Brian McCook ferried GKR out?
Didnt know Bryan Grey had a pilot licence?
I was in Madang at the time.
Tinnie. Ya dumb twit. When ya sober up read the posts again!!
Woomera
Didnt know Bryan Grey had a pilot licence?
I was in Madang at the time.
Tinnie. Ya dumb twit. When ya sober up read the posts again!!
Woomera
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the missed thread and cotacts
WOOMERA
g'day woomera - and tku - i sugest it was a case of nupela boi nogat save which caused my "book on TAA-NG" to escape yr eagle eye - robroy encouraged me to post on pprune foll the TAA/ANSETT-NG bash but i think he intended i would post on "png ples bilong tok tok" - which probably would have been better - and not as a new topic - as master of discipline on such matters is it alright if i now t/fer thread to "png ples bilong tok tok"
tks also re pm matters - sharpie has been in touch after reading the book thread - he's busy rigging oops organising boat races at the moment but is keen to help as soon as time permits - i've never met jim sinclair but he is a near neighbour just down the road at buderim - i have a fone referral thru a mutual acquaintance and now yr contact - i will be seeking his advce when i get a bit further advanced
i broke bread with paul reid at the recent NG reunion - i knew paul at both tn and px and will be in touch
i now have total talair staff list with many iconic names - tks - no emails/postal that i could see and they would be very helpful if avail
WOOMERA / BOZZO
re suggest for registry - obviously i think it's a great idea as it would have saved me heaps of time on my project - fyi i currently have a 2003 png reunion mail list which included all and sundry - also now the talair staff list as noted above - plus probably 100 plus misc personal ones incldng tn / qf /airq / px / mba / etc - shortly i hope to have the list from the TAA/ANSETT-NG reunion which shud ttl 150/200 - i've also been promised a total TAA-NG staff list compiled some time ago by richard seeto and i know he'll deliver - i'd be more than happy to make available whatever i end up with for a registry
FANTOME
tks for pm - reply on the way asap
cheers
g'day woomera - and tku - i sugest it was a case of nupela boi nogat save which caused my "book on TAA-NG" to escape yr eagle eye - robroy encouraged me to post on pprune foll the TAA/ANSETT-NG bash but i think he intended i would post on "png ples bilong tok tok" - which probably would have been better - and not as a new topic - as master of discipline on such matters is it alright if i now t/fer thread to "png ples bilong tok tok"
tks also re pm matters - sharpie has been in touch after reading the book thread - he's busy rigging oops organising boat races at the moment but is keen to help as soon as time permits - i've never met jim sinclair but he is a near neighbour just down the road at buderim - i have a fone referral thru a mutual acquaintance and now yr contact - i will be seeking his advce when i get a bit further advanced
i broke bread with paul reid at the recent NG reunion - i knew paul at both tn and px and will be in touch
i now have total talair staff list with many iconic names - tks - no emails/postal that i could see and they would be very helpful if avail
WOOMERA / BOZZO
re suggest for registry - obviously i think it's a great idea as it would have saved me heaps of time on my project - fyi i currently have a 2003 png reunion mail list which included all and sundry - also now the talair staff list as noted above - plus probably 100 plus misc personal ones incldng tn / qf /airq / px / mba / etc - shortly i hope to have the list from the TAA/ANSETT-NG reunion which shud ttl 150/200 - i've also been promised a total TAA-NG staff list compiled some time ago by richard seeto and i know he'll deliver - i'd be more than happy to make available whatever i end up with for a registry
FANTOME
tks for pm - reply on the way asap
cheers
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Barry,
sent a few addresses that may help and strange, but I also have commenced pen to paper with about 100 pages done so far. Whether I'll ever finish or do anything with it remains to be seen.
"A Pilot in Paradise"
sub titled 'and the b.....s i've met'
used of course in the Australian vernacular as those included are all happy, lucky, poor, dead, sad but no bad......s.
sent a few addresses that may help and strange, but I also have commenced pen to paper with about 100 pages done so far. Whether I'll ever finish or do anything with it remains to be seen.
"A Pilot in Paradise"
sub titled 'and the b.....s i've met'
used of course in the Australian vernacular as those included are all happy, lucky, poor, dead, sad but no bad......s.