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NutLoose 30th Mar 2023 11:45

There is a new Turkey on the block..



Less Hair 30th Mar 2023 11:50

I don't get the "drama" about Belarus nukes. Russia has nukes in Kaliningrad already, plus plenty on submarines. This is why there is no new threat quality putting them on Belarus soil.

NutLoose 30th Mar 2023 11:50

An oldie but a goldie...


Tartiflette Fan 30th Mar 2023 12:28


Originally Posted by Less Hair (Post 11411616)
I don't get the "drama" about Belarus nukes. Russia has nukes in Kaliningrad already, plus plenty on submarines. This is why there is no new threat quality putting them on Belarus soil.

The drama is that it breaks* the Treaty of the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, which forbids the transfer of nukes to a non-nuclear state. Russia is minimising this by saying that the Byelorussians don't have control of the weapons. Kaliningrad is an exclave of Russia and the NPT does not therefore apply.

* I believe that at the moment this is all hypothetical and nothing has been transferred because no special storage facilities have been built.

Tartiflette Fan 30th Mar 2023 15:31

Patriot not yet deployed
 

Originally Posted by petit plateau (Post 11410998)
- Patriot is a very ambiguous statement. Does anyone know how to interpret that as being a quantity (understandable) or quality (mmmm....) issue.

Regarding the others :

- UK never sent any remaindered Rapier, so not that.

- Gepard has had happy user videos all over the place.

- IRIS-T I have a vague memory of happy user videos, but could be mistaken in my memory.

- NASAAMS no known happy user videos, though I had assumed OpSec request.

- Crotale no known happy user videos, though I had assumed OpSec request.

The various ex-Soviet stuff sent by eastern European users seems to have been integrated as one would expect.

Maybe other stuff has gone and not been reported.

In this YT video from Denys Davydov, he talks about air-defence at 7:00 and says that deployment of Patriot is probably awaiting the much -heralded counter-attack. Since these are mobile systems, I really don't understand why they would not have used them since arrival ( 6-8 weeks ago ? ) unless it is restricted missile-supply ( over $ 1 million per piece ) and they are saving them to counter Russian air-power when they make their big push.
There is also mention of a large explosion at Simferopol military airport which the Russkis claim was a plane going supersonic, but there is accompanying video showing a large plume of smoke. Speculation of drone attack.

DD also reports the UKR Defence Minister saying that the counter-attack will happen in late April/early May !!. At 17:45 DD shows his regular war-map and talks through different possibilities for this action.


NutLoose 30th Mar 2023 16:27

What a perfect stitch up

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-Mariupol.html

FUMR 30th Mar 2023 17:00


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11411740)

You want it to be true but......., it is the Daily Mail. :confused:

NutLoose 30th Mar 2023 17:07

You couldn’t get any closer lol.

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NutLoose 30th Mar 2023 18:34

If I’m reading this correct it’s zero on the altimeter on the run in.

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NutLoose 30th Mar 2023 18:39

Now that’s just heartbreaking, wait until you get near the end and look at it all.

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MightyGem 30th Mar 2023 21:10


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11411783)
If I’m reading this correct it’s zero on the altimeter on the run in.

All depends what the altimeter is set on.

Tartiflette Fan 30th Mar 2023 21:24


Originally Posted by MightyGem (Post 11411837)
All depends what the altimeter is set on.

and the tolerance - which you would expect some people to know.

NutLoose 31st Mar 2023 00:37

Really?


https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....a8bd8c846.jpeg

NutLoose 31st Mar 2023 01:38

You reap what you sow…


NutLoose 31st Mar 2023 01:45

Body armour pzzzzzt old hat, what you need is one of these and just what you need at night too..


ORAC 31st Mar 2023 05:56

NEW: Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a decree on March 30 authorising Russia’s semiannual spring conscription which will induct 147,000 Russians between April 1 and July 15.

jolihokistix 31st Mar 2023 06:22

They too are all going to die. Sadly.

Not for their country, dulce et decorum est, pro patria mori etc., but to die for the great and powerful Wizard of Oz Putin's miscalculation in kick-starting a never-ending war with no clear or rational endgame in mind.

FUMR 31st Mar 2023 09:25


Originally Posted by ORAC (Post 11411997)
NEW: Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a decree on March 30 authorising Russia’s semiannual spring conscription which will induct 147,000 Russians between April 1 and July 15.

Must be running out of meat for the grinder I suspect! So very sad to see this in this day and age.

golfbananajam 31st Mar 2023 09:32


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11411783)
If I’m reading this correct it’s zero on the altimeter on the run in.



https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/s...C9udXejMctAAAA


I have no experience in this kind of tactical flying (other than in the back of helicopters round S Armagh), but at that height and speed would the pilot even be looking at the altimeter, especially with steam gauges?

Mogwi 31st Mar 2023 10:33


Originally Posted by golfbananajam (Post 11412106)
I have no experience in this kind of tactical flying (other than in the back of helicopters round S Armagh), but at that height and speed would the pilot even be looking at the altimeter, especially with steam gauges?

No. At that height all your concentration is out of the front window, looking for obstacles/threats/targets. Glances inside the office would be rare and extremely brief. Speaking as one who has been recorded at 5’ AGL on the attack run!

Mog


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