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NutLoose 5th Apr 2023 11:39

Night time drone hunting, what are the blue lights?


fdr 5th Apr 2023 11:45


Originally Posted by Ninthace (Post 11414599)
Tervetuloa suomalaiset ystävät
I hope that is right.

pimeyden jälkeen tulee aamunkoitto.

[email protected] 5th Apr 2023 11:47


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11415055)
Night time drone hunting, what are the blue lights?



https://twitter.com/Feher_Junior/sta...C9hbbCsM4tAAAA

Hand held laser pointer?

NutLoose 5th Apr 2023 11:59


Originally Posted by [email protected] (Post 11415060)
Hand held laser pointer?


I did wonder if it was that as well, it seems odd you can only see a small section of it though.

Jason Burry 5th Apr 2023 12:05

Blue lights - Hand-held lasers being used to dazzle / damage cameras on the drones, I'd guess.

Video Mixdown 5th Apr 2023 12:32


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11415067)
I did wonder if it was that as well, it seems odd you can only see a small section of it though.

Probably you can only see the beams in the places where they illuminate smoke from weapons being fired at the drone.

Tartiflette Fan 5th Apr 2023 12:51


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11415055)
Night time drone hunting, what are the blue lights?

Searchlights for visual identification/targeting of drones
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tribute_in_Light

Sue Vêtements 5th Apr 2023 13:54


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11413713)
More on the priests v the Ukrainian serviceman, Ukrainian priests now in charge Russian ones ejected

You mean somebody finally rid us of that turbulent priest?

NutLoose 5th Apr 2023 15:08

The ones they kicked out were a different bunch of the same at another church, this is the one you are thinking about, also kicked out and charged.


Petro Lebid

NutLoose 5th Apr 2023 15:10

Another disgusting act by them all, not allowing a fallen Ukrainian into the church to have the ceremony, I think I would have taken an axe to the doors.


NutLoose 5th Apr 2023 15:16

Beware upsetting image:


langleybaston 5th Apr 2023 15:47


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11415171)
Beware upsetting image:

Evil, Satanic beyond words.

Our mild mannered Priest on Sunday nearly broke down as he said "wicked".

Putin should roast in hellfire for unprovoked aggression

Wokkafans 5th Apr 2023 16:01

Some graphic images.

You may have seen many clips online of Ukrainian forces attacking a Russian held T-shaped trench system using a T-72 tank and BMP. Here's an explanation of their tactics and the importance of the system from the guys involved.

"Official video from K2 Battalion: Operation "T-pattern" Analysis of the battle and aftermath"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fifp...Бр




Tartiflette Fan 5th Apr 2023 16:21


Originally Posted by Wokkafans (Post 11415200)
Some graphic images.

You may have seen many clips online of Ukrainian forces attacking a Russian held T-shaped trench system using a T-72 tank and BMP. Here's an explanation of their tactics and the importance of the system from the guys involved.

"Official video from K2 Battalion: Operation "T-pattern" Analysis of the battle and aftermath"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fifp...Бр

To someone with no experience, the tank seemed to really put itself at risk when going over those trenches and not being able to continue without several to-and-fros. I don't see how they could know that there were no troops left, and therefore that there was nobody ready with an RPG which would have had a pretty certain hit at 20-30 m range: I suppose it is likely to have a minimum arming distance, but I have been unable to verify that.

NutLoose 5th Apr 2023 16:38

Some of the to and fro-ing was simply because he couldn't get out, you can see the tracks turning but not biting into the soft earth so he had to keep reversing up, adjusting his angle and trying again to find something his tank could get grip on. I think with the tank rounds that were fired into the trench anyone surviving would be either concussed or nearly dead.
Your other problem is anything under 20 ish metres, the RPG blast is also a threat to the person firing it.

India Four Two 5th Apr 2023 16:43

TF:


https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....86d602b980.png



https://www.quora.com/Does-an-RPG-7-...o-the-launcher

Tartiflette Fan 5th Apr 2023 17:25


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11415226)
Some of the to and fro-ing was simply because he couldn't get out, you can see the tracks turning but not biting into the soft earth so he had to keep reversing up, adjusting his angle and trying again to find something his tank .

I think that's what I said.
" the tank seemed to really put itself at risk when going over those trenches and not being able to continue without several to-and-fros."


Originally Posted by NutLoose (Post 11415226)
Your other problem is anything under 20 ish metres, the RPG blast is also a threat to the person firing it.

Or to put it another way :
": I suppose it is likely to have a minimum arming distance,"

Beamr 5th Apr 2023 19:25

They have the drone operator as their eyes so I would assume they knew what or who was in the trench. I recall reading ukrainians have added a drone operator to tank platoons for scouting, which actually makes sense as it gives much broader understanding of the situation.

The arming distance of a RPG depends on make/model, but anything up to 40 meters is a safe assumption (there are lots of different version within Z-army alone). I'd hate to be too close as if it hits prior to arming it just knocks on the door and gives you away (and someone firing at you back with a 125mm smoothbore from 10 meters away means the muzzle pressure alone can still knock you off or even kill you). If ithe grenade arms and goes bang, 10 meters is too close for comfort anyway.




Beamr 5th Apr 2023 19:55

Weather is warming, spring is here. And along came trench feet. Those guys seem to have decent footwear, imagine being a Z-ombie wearing your civilian sneakers...



NutLoose 5th Apr 2023 20:50

You can bomb, you can kill, you can destroy, but NOTHING keeps the Ukrainians down and you just cannot break their spirits.



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