Today at about 5 am there were once again strikes on Antonovsky bridge area. A fire started as a result on southern bank.
Video showing Ru continuing to build a barge bridge. As well as a video which, unfortunately, shows movement of Ru trucks on bridge today at 6 am. (Already after the morning strikes on the bridge). Video by Kherson journalist - Konstantin Ryzhenko. |
Hahahahahahaa Classic
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 11284959)
"I'm sorry but we can't accept your surrender, we just haven't the space" Well, it happened in the film. |
Originally Posted by etudiant
(Post 11284702)
Mearsheimer uses 'offensive realism' as the description of international behavior, because there is no recourse to a central authority, prudent leaders try to ensure that the proximate states prefer to deal with you peacefully. Yet the post Maidan government moved ahead with an anti Russian campaign even though about 25% of their people were primarily Russian speaking. Neighboring with Russia, that was not a prudent initiative.. I accept that as leaders of a sovereign nation, the actions by Kiev were legal, but considering there was no consent by the Russian minority to those actions, their revolt also seems legitimate to me. . Consequently I do not see the Kiev leadership as heroes, but rather as the irresponsible instigators of this conflagration, much as the Serbian leadership helped set off WW1. Mearsheimer writes that there is no plausible path for diplomacy currently visible, suggesting that this war will become considerably worse. His judgement has been proven correct thus far.
Whatever you are smoking, don't get caught by the po-po's, they tend to shoot first and then yell stop....
Originally Posted by etudiant
(Post 11284702)
Mearsheimer uses 'offensive realism' as the description of international behavior, because there is no recourse to a central authority, prudent leaders try to ensure that the proximate states prefer to deal with you peacefully.
Originally Posted by etudiant
(Post 11284702)
Yet the post Maidan government moved ahead with an anti Russian campaign even though about 25% of their people were primarily Russian speaking. Neighboring with Russia, that was not a prudent initiative..
Originally Posted by etudiant
(Post 11284702)
I accept that as leaders of a sovereign nation, the actions by Kiev were legal, but considering there was no consent by the Russian minority to those actions, their revolt also seems legitimate to me. .
the revolt was initiated and forced by the GRU, read your own history, LGM... Not by anti Russian sentiment, but by 5th column action of a state that just couldn't help itself... there are parables that come to mind on that score, the scorpion and the frog being up there. Scorpions are more trustworthy.
Originally Posted by etudiant
(Post 11284702)
Consequently I do not see the Kiev leadership as heroes, but rather as the irresponsible instigators of this conflagration, much as the Serbian leadership helped set off WW1.
FACT: Russia signed the treaty to respect all of the former USSR states, and has reneged on over 50% of those states, being the aggressor nation. FACT: Russia invaded Ukraine, in 2014 FACT: Russia illegally occupied and undertook an illegal and unrecognized annexation of a neighboring nation. FACT: Russia invaded Ukraine on 24 February 2022 FACT: Russia was militarily defeated in the field for the first 30 days, due in large part to the hubris of Russia's leaders, and not in small part by the poisonous leadership style of the Kremlin that has placed the dear leader into an isolation bubble, as the messenger tends to get dead. FACT: Russia's economy may seem bad now, wait 6 months. The Yale University Management analysis of Russia is that the economy is in a catastrophic collapse process. Your oil revenue is collapsing, and then you might have to work for a living. There is not much likelihood of investment from the west, or from anyone else that wishes to avoid secondary sanctions. The prospect of the foreign military sales surviving the performance of the Russian weapons demonstrated to international voyeurs of carnage is a little less likely than the chance that a T-72 turret will in fact repeat the first sputnik trajectory and enter orbit. (aerospace content, my bad)
Originally Posted by etudiant
(Post 11284702)
Mearsheimer writes that there is no plausible path for diplomacy currently visible, suggesting that this war will become considerably worse. His judgement has been proven correct thus far.
FACT: Ukraine didn't invade Russia. Your opinions presented as fact are consistent with the lack of ethical balance that seems to be prevalent in the criminal state of Russia. I take no pleasure in the harm that befalls the Russian conscripts that die needlessly in a foreign land as an aggressor, for a reason that they cannot fathom. However, I would rather they go home by train, plane or automobile and make their dissatisfaction known in their own land, against their government, and those like you that apparently support a morally bankrupt and fiscally special needs country, however, should they stay, I fully support the right for Ukraine to defend itself against your aggressor state, and they can return as #300 or #200 as Mars may deem fit. Ukraine isn't leaving, Russia needs to leave, and on that point, we are back to the starting comment, that I don't see a negotiated peace, i wouldn't take the word of Russian WRT maintaining peace, your paranoia seems to contraindicate that as being honored. Russia; murderous one day, genocidal the next. https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....d6689b802.jpeg |
Rossiskaja Gazeta: Putin signed a decree to increase the RuAF staff by 137000 to 1,15 million people.
Coming to effect Jan 1st 2023. To put this into context: They are intending to increase the amount of their armed forces personnel by 14% in four months. Quite a leap considering they haven't been able to replace the approx 80-100k KIA/WIA/MIA in Ukraine, meaning they are already minus 8-10%. https://www.gazeta.ru/army/news/2022...18408992.shtml |
Good luck with that.
Still no mobilisation so all have to be volunteers - and they’re already scraping the barrel taking men over 50. https://www.rferl.org/a/russia-raise.../31867388.html No one left to train them - they’re already being thrown into combat in Ukraine after 5 days. https://www.businessinsider.com/russ...-report-2022-7 No equipment for them - being sent with basic uniform and no weapons as cannon fodder to the front - where if they’re lucky they’ll be handed body armour stripped from the dead, otherwise having to buy their own - probably also stripped from the dead and resold by their own officers. https://www.themoscowtimes.com/2022/...o-fight-a77751 |
Originally Posted by Beamr
(Post 11285009)
Rossiskaja Gazeta: Putin signed a decree to increase the RuAF staff by 137000 to 1,15 million people.
Coming to effect Jan 1st 2023. To put this into context: They are intending to increase the amount of their armed forces personnel by 14% in four months. Quite a leap considering they haven't been able to replace the approx 80-100k KIA/WIA/MIA in Ukraine, meaning they are already minus 8-10%. https://www.gazeta.ru/army/news/2022...18408992.shtml |
etudiant
Unfortunately your posts have become more unhinged as time goes by. Initially I somewhat listened to and respected your opinions as a disagreeable but argued position, recently your posts lack any backup or evidence and have become just opinions. Many posters here take the time to provide documentary evidence of what happened and when in the whole sad chronology, these posts will always be taken more seriously than rhetoric and repeated russian state propaganda. It would be good if you could do the same and cite sources for some of your more wild ideas. I was going to write a long reply but fdr did it much better. But I think you will find if the budapest memorandum had been honoured (or never existed) there would have been no need for any Minsk agreements; that russia annexed crimea before any donbass agitations; and that Mariupol was taken by 'rebel forces' in the initial stages back then, and subsequently liberated. I did not see anyone in Mariupol throwing down their weapons and welcoming the russians back this year did you? Sloviansk is another city that was at one stage occupied and liberated, do you see any welcome signs there for russian forces? At the end of the day they can see occupied Donbass and Crimea became just vassal states of RF feeding the klepto hunger at the centre of power. Disclaimer: I have been providing at least socks and cigarettes to UaF forces since 2014, these days my aid is more practical. |
One gun to five recruits?
Is Putin attempting to recreate their WW2 Phyrric victory against the nasties at Stalingrad? |
Originally Posted by Video Mixdown
(Post 11285034)
Clutching past events like a security blanket won't help you now. When Russia rolled the iron dice they rendered any previous treaties/agreements null and void, along with any control over the outcome.
Nope, am just saying that 25% of the Ukrainian people revolted against the governments new laws and the government sent in the army to crush them, rather than address their grievance. |
AFP: Ukraine's Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant disconnected from power grid
I hope the russkies have capable people around that can handle it now without the used fuel overheating or reactors melting down. Otherwise... sheeeeet |
Is Putin wanting to increase his forces by 137000 personnel perhaps indirectly indicate the loss of roughly the same number in the past six months?
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Originally Posted by Beamr
(Post 11285045)
AFP: Ukraine's Zaporizhzhia nuclear plant disconnected from power grid
I hope the russkies have capable people around that can handle it now without the used fuel overheating or reactors melting down. Otherwise... sheeeeet https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1562795029948575750 The problem I read somewhere is that the cooling systems run on the power that they are trying to disconnect, so reliable alternative temporary power is needed from another source while they attempt to disconnect north-flowing electricity. |
Etudiant, here is your glorious Russia in all it's glory................. and hopefully soon to be sanitised of everything Russian and returned to Ukraine.
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Originally Posted by FUMR
(Post 11285065)
Is Putin wanting to increase his forces by 137000 personnel perhaps indirectly indicate the loss of roughly the same number in the past six months?
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Originally Posted by FUMR
(Post 11285065)
Is Putin wanting to increase his forces by 137000 personnel perhaps indirectly indicate the loss of roughly the same number in the past six months?
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Not sure if the main bridge in Kherson as I remember blue yellow lamp posts.
Translates as Current status of the Antonov bridge in Kherson. |
Originally Posted by Video Mixdown
(Post 11285034)
Clutching past events like a security blanket won't help you now. When Russia rolled the iron dice they rendered any previous treaties/agreements null and void, along with any control over the outcome.
That imho is exactly what Mearsheimer and others have been harping on, when nations feel their vital interests are threatened, they will respond, irrespective of prior treaty obligations. Given the results to date, it seems obvious that the Russian response was wrong. In context of Putin's oft quoted view that the collapse of the USSR was the seminal catastrophe of our era, the effort to decapitate the Ukraine simply provoked a concerted US/European effort to prevent Russia from turning back the clock. So now both sides are stuck, while Europe hopes that sanctions will cause Russia to withdraw and Russia hopes that economic pressures will force Europe to remove the sanctions, .people are dying in Ukraine. It is stupid beyond belief, even worse is that such stalemates make escalation almost inevitable, as Verdun and the Somme examples from WW1 underscore. Mearsheimer points out that there is no visible diplomatic path forward to settle this conflict, so that escalation is the most likely outcome. Of course, imho this is just the latest in the west's fratricidal wars which have opened the door to Asian dominance in world affairs. I don't think that these wars are desirable. |
Back in our regular program it appears that the HARM's in Ukraine aren't the latest batch.
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Originally Posted by Thrust Augmentation
(Post 11285257)
You are 100% correct.
Ignore & do not feed the troll. |
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