Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 11224531)
Ever wonder why all those Russian trucks had tyre issues and were lost because of it, read on
It's not just cheap tires , for anyone who is a fan of rus tyre technology this is also an interesting read |
Re the sausage king murder, they have been watching to much Game of Thrones, still better in a sauna than on the throne so to speak :)
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Ukraine hits snake island with UAV. First goes comms and then an ammunition store or such takes hit. Secondaries all over the place.
I'd bet my pension that within a few years all the armed forces in the world will be having significant amounts of UAV's, both heavy and light, long range and short range. |
Reference the heavy lift drones mentioned by Boris in his speech to the Ukrainian Parliament. From The Times.
A military source said that between 20 and 30 Malloy T150 heavy lift drones, which have been in trials with the Royal Marines, would be delivered to the country to help resupply Ukrainian troops. https://www.malloyaeronautics.com/t150/ |
Its interesting as AFAIK there appears to be little effort in terms of developing man-portable systems to counter these drones. The likes of Martlet are all well and good but presumably the missile itself is expensive in comparison to a COTS drone, also only a one-shot system i.e. unable to take on more than threat at a time. I'm thinking along the lines of a motorised mount for a LMG with optical/IR tracking, something simple and quick to deploy.
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Originally Posted by ORAC
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Reference the heavy lift drones mentioned by Boris in his speech to the Ukrainian Parliament. From The Times.
68Kg payload and 70Km range. https://www.malloyaeronautics.com/t150/ |
Originally Posted by dead_pan
(Post 11224887)
Its interesting as AFAIK there appears to be little effort in terms of developing man-portable systems to counter these drones. The likes of Martlet are all well and good but presumably the missile itself is expensive in comparison to a COTS drone, also only a one-shot system i.e. unable to take on more than threat at a time. I'm thinking along the lines of a motorised mount for a LMG with optical/IR tracking, something simple and quick to deploy.
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Originally Posted by pasta
(Post 11224891)
Seems like a difficult problem to solve; I'm guessing LMG (or any other CIWS) will have pretty limited range, so you need one deployed near every target. To defend an area you need some sort of guided missile, which quickly gets complex and expensive (I'm guessing more expensive than the drones you're targetting). The only other countermeasures I can think of are electronic (deny control of the drone, or its ability to navigate) or some sort of directed energy (shoot them down with lasers).
https://twitter.com/search?q=ANTIDRO...rc=typed_query https://www.mobileboosterjammer.com/...corrosion.html |
Those drone jammer devices are all very well until someone develops the capability to turn the drone towards the source and release stores at the point of maximum signal strength.
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Originally Posted by B Fraser
(Post 11224918)
Those drone jammer devices are all very well until someone develops the capability to turn the drone towards the source and release stores at the point of maximum signal strength.
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Inexpensive option?
Originally Posted by pasta
(Post 11224891)
Seems like a difficult problem to solve; I'm guessing LMG (or any other CIWS) will have pretty limited range, so you need one deployed near every target. To defend an area you need some sort of guided missile, which quickly gets complex and expensive (I'm guessing more expensive than the drones you're targetting). The only other countermeasures I can think of are electronic (deny control of the drone, or its ability to navigate) or some sort of directed energy (shoot them down with lasers).
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Or how about
https://www.pointtrading.com/wp-cont...G-brochure.pdf They also do a worn system agains the commercial drones https://mydefence.dk/pitbull-100-101/ .. |
Originally Posted by nevillestyke
(Post 11224926)
I thought that birds of prey had been used; cheap to manufacture.
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The only other countermeasures I can think of are electronic (deny control of the drone, or its ability to navigate) or some sort of directed energy (shoot them down with l@sers). https://www.defensenews.com/land/202...laser-weapons/ Army readies to deliver first set of Strykers with 50-kilowatt laser weapons |
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....9c5e2e2df7.png
Glad to see they are now adding the additions from the previous day on them now. |
Originally Posted by pasta
(Post 11224891)
Seems like a difficult problem to solve; I'm guessing LMG (or any other CIWS) will have pretty limited range, so you need one deployed near every target. To defend an area you need some sort of guided missile, which quickly gets complex and expensive (I'm guessing more expensive than the drones you're targetting). The only other countermeasures I can think of are electronic (deny control of the drone, or its ability to navigate) or some sort of directed energy (shoot them down with lasers).
35mm radar guided guns with programmabke ammunition are designed for drones. Poland has developed one and there is the AA guns delivered by Germany. |
Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 11224942)
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/pprune....9c5e2e2df7.png
Glad to see they are now adding the additions from the previous day on them now. Seems to be going really really well. That is such good news,,,!!! |
So Russian propaganda has taken a hit too....shame :)
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Originally Posted by Beamr
(Post 11224797)
I'd bet my pension that within a few years all the armed forces in the world will be having significant amounts of UAV's, both heavy and light, long range and short range.
I think the stage we're at with drones is similar to when biplanes used to fly alongside each other and each take turns (for the officer of course) to take pot shots at each other There are so many "opportunities" to use drones, in offensive, defensive and drone on drone action. You could launch a swarm attack and have them come from many different directions, they don't even have to continually fly, but could make a journey in a series of hops to hide detection, they could even fly an erratic course to make them difficult targets. You could even theoretically have a hybrid drone that lands, then crawls for a while to take off from a different location. They could be pre programmed with the target coordinates, so have nothing to jam, they could lie in wait for days, maybe even weeks. They could coordinate an attack amongst themselves, could even become a colony intelligence like an ant nest. I've even seen film (on here) of drones firing nets at other drones. Think of the civilian world too and how political candidates give speeches surrounded by plexiglass walls. That might now need to be a box to stop a drone attack from above Very interesting, but very frightening too |
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