British military convoy in France
I was driving up the A 5/A26 between Dijon and Reims on Wednesday April 20 and vaguely noted numerous military trucks heading South: after a little while it kicked in that they had British military number-plates and also a rather small Union-Jack sticker under the LHS headlight. These were all trucks carrying a container (except for a sole Land-Rover ), probably 20 or so in total.
I have never read of any joint Franco-British military exercises taking place in France so that's probably out, and yet I can't think of any reason that Britain would be sending any aid to Ukraine on trucks through France either. Can anyone think of a good explanation for such a convoy ? |
To transport French Aid?
Off BBC A veteran pro-Kremlin commentator says Russia's goal in Ukraine is "the gradual dismantling and phased reformatting of this territory". The Russian analyst, Pyotr Akopov, says "everyone understands now that the military operation will go on a long time". His commentary, published by state-run RIA Novosti news, is titled "Russia is changing tactics, but not strategy, in Ukraine". It echoes a speech on Friday by a top Russian general, Rustam Minnekayev, envisaging Russian forces taking control of Ukraine’s entire coastline, from Donbas in the east to Moldova in the west. Russia has troops in Transnistria, a breakaway pro-Moscow territory in Moldova. "Withdrawal of our troops from any of the occupied territories is out of the question," Akopov says. "If we take the goal of the second phase to be establishing control over the south of Ukraine, then we have to realise that a third phase is inevitable too – control over all of Novorossiya," Akopov says. Russian nationalists see "Novorossiya" (meaning New Russia) as a huge swathe of southern Ukraine that once belonged to imperial Russia. President Vladimir Putin has said "Novorossiya" should also include the Kharkiv region in the north. Akopov says Russia may not need to capture Kyiv and Lviv, because "after the south falls, Ukraine as an entity will start to collapse". That "collapse", he says, will happen "even without waiting for the surrender of Kharkiv and control over all of Novorossiya, because loss of the south deprives Ukraine of the chances of existing as a self-sufficient.
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Originally Posted by Beamr
(Post 11219497)
Apparently Kremlin has already decided they've won and its all over.
https://twitter.com/NeilPHauer/statu...38482972184577 |
Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 11219989)
To transport French Aid?
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Originally Posted by Imagegear
(Post 11219957)
More on the previous:
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I suppose it’s too much to hope that one of the three was General Dvornikov….
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Originally Posted by Tartiflette Fan
(Post 11219986)
I have never read of any joint Franco-British military exercises taking place in France so that's probably out, and yet I can't think of any reason that Britain would be sending any aid to Ukraine on trucks through France either.
Can anyone think of a good explanation for such a convoy ? You can pretty much insert any NATO nation in place of France before listing all the other countries where we have direct bilateral military relationships. The sun will rise tomorrow and UK military convoys, maritime movements and air deployments will be happening all over the place. |
Originally Posted by Just This Once...
(Post 11220005)
I guess you have zero contact with the military as we (the UK in this case) exercise / work-up / trial / test / evaluate / develop / maintain / train with France as a matter of routine.
If you really believe this to be the case, please give examples of France-British training exercises that have taken place in France in recent years.in large-scale, and not at EDG- T or similar. |
Widescreen,
As most countries including the UN do not recognise any of Russias claims over the lands and that they still are Ukrainian tin law then I do not see who they can legally claim them and hence there is no basis for it being forbidden ground. I do wonder if NATO could possibly blockade the the Black Sea seizing any vessels carrying stolen grain etc? I still am disappointed in the wests response, yes we are pumping aid in, but it often feels to late to make a meaningful result, artillery that is needed now possibly weeks from arriving where desperately needed. And in the meantime the population is being exterminated as the west watches on. What I do fear is the longer it goes on, the less newsworthy it will become and the help for them will start to dry up. … |
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Originally Posted by Just This Once...
(Post 11220005)
You can pretty much insert any NATO nation in place of France before listing all the other countries where we have direct bilateral military relationships. The sun will rise tomorrow and UK military convoys, maritime movements and air deployments will be happening all over the place. |
Full version of the drone video showing the downing of a Russian helicopter with better contexthttps://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...eb2x&context=3 |
Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 11220013)
Widescreen,
As most countries including the UN do not recognise any of Russias claims over the lands and that they still are Ukrainian tin law then I do not see who they can legally claim them and hence there is no basis for it being forbidden ground.
Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 11220013)
I do wonder if NATO could possibly blockade the the Black Sea seizing any vessels carrying stolen grain etc?
Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 11220013)
I still am disappointed in the wests response, yes we are pumping aid in, but it often feels to late to make a meaningful result, artillery that is needed now possibly weeks from arriving where desperately needed.
And in the meantime the population is being exterminated as the west watches on.
Originally Posted by NutLoose
(Post 11220013)
What I do fear is the longer it goes on, the less newsworthy it will become and the help for them will start to dry up.
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Originally Posted by Tartiflette Fan
(Post 11220012)
If you really believe this to be the case, please give examples of France-British training exercises that have taken place in France in recent years.in large-scale, and not at EDG- T or similar.
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Interesting how stories are reported or not . The Turks after letting Chinese fly military planes delivering arms to Serbia, have now closed their airspace to Russian aircraft , civilian and military . Should be some cheap holidays availability soon in Turkey with all those empty hotels that used to sell cheap vodka . I wonder if they will still allow Chinese military to deliver weapons through Turkish airspace ?
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https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...eb2x&context=3
sometimes, I guess there just aren't enough Flares |
Russian General Retirement Plan
Originally Posted by ORAC
(Post 11220002)
I suppose it’s too much to hope that one of the three was General Dvornikov….
There are a couple of ways of looking at it, and they give different answers. There are X Generals in the operations area. Y generals reported deceased. Assuming a simple spread of the population, you get about a 3-5% probability. The figure on generals in the area have a spread of numbers quoted, and those are without source attribution. A Bayesian analysis would add the likelihood that a HQ with a minimum of 3 General rank officers in one location would have the General of interest, "the butcher of Aleppo" in attendance. (Same probability question for say Wolfsschanze when you have a bucketful of generals at the same place, (and one Colonel...) Doing that, it depends on the assumption of what is the probability of 3 or more generals sitting around in a TOC drinking tea and chatting about genocide or being present for a conflab with the boss. That would give a likelihood that could run from 3% (no correlation, Russian generals like holding hands around the campfire) to 20%, where it is highly probable that the boss is there for a gathering of the generals (its not going to be 10%, there is a very low probability that every general in the area was at the one place), it is possible that 25% would be... 20%, if it is a coin toss the boss is there for a modest meeting. The more generals were there the higher the probability the boss was there, If it is assumed that even the Russian military is not stupid enough to have every general at the same place, then the top end would be say 50% of all generals in-theatre genuflecting to the boss at one location, that would increase the certainty that the boss is there, so that runs to.... 20%. Neglecting a chair leg or two..... The likelihood is not zero and is not certain, but would seem to be between 1:20 and 1:5. We can only hope for the memory of those murdered in Aleppo, and in Ukraine, that it was a fortuitous strike. You could also add a probability that a strike was actively targeting the butcher, and what the probability of an OPSEC slip would be by the Russians. Those both run close to 100% on recent observations. (The search for K-128 (1968), the Palomares 4 x B-28 nukes (1966), and the USS Scorpion, SSN-589 (also 1968) used a bayesian search function reportedly. It was certainly used to refine the search area of the bombs, there is anecdotal evidence that the K-129 position was reasonably well known by a satellite contact, as well as a couple of PACSOSUS acoustic lines, one civil and two military, and the same for the Scorpion, a SOSUS and a university project acoustic signature. The maths was interesting, and all 3 were still major searches). The Russian search for K-129 was nowhere near where she was reportedly found. There remain some interesting inconsistencies in the story of the K-129 and the Scorpion. some of the acoustic data was purportedly shown on the Project Azorian film, and the signal timings did not gel with the reported recovery location. The radio officer of the cargo ship (Bel Hudson, doing a run from Yokohama to Long beach along 34.30N, well below the great circle route...) that was helped by the medical team of the Hughes Glomar Explorer gave information on the track they had been on that voyage, which was definitely nowhere near the location that the more sensational stories on the sinking indicated. (Requested the ship's log of the Bel Hudson but never got that released from the archives in the UK, where they are preserved. IIRC, the cook has a suspected heart attack, which says something). J.P. Craven was an approachable guy, on marine engineering, and bayesian search functions, but was quiet on the actual location of K-129. He didn't consider 3rd party involvement in Scorpion to be likely, Found a report years later from a research vessel, MV Teritsu that found a radioactive oil slick way away around Necker Reef, the K-129 location is curious. |
Originally Posted by MJ89
(Post 11220120)
https://www.reddit.com/r/CombatFoota...eb2x&context=3
sometimes, I guess there just aren't enough Flares |
Originally Posted by fdr
(Post 11220133)
There are X Generals in the operations area. Y generals reported deceased. y, If three of them are taken out the probability of a given general taken out is 1:3. However the total amount of generals is unknown. Now to complicate things we could add the OPSEC issues and targeting an individual which then makes the probability of a certain individual taken out a bit higher. Then again in the real world, if the syrian butcher would've be taken out I reckon the Ukrainians would've let the world know. |
https://www.defensenews.com/pentagon...o-arm-ukraine/
Calling all weapons makers: Pentagon seeks new ideas to arm Ukraine WASHINGTON ― In its effort to quickly arm Ukraine against Russia, the Pentagon has announced the equivalent of an open casting call for companies to offer weapons and commercial systems that can be rushed to the fight. The Defense Department on Friday posted a broad request for information from industry on the federal contracting website sam.gov. The move is part of a stepped-up dialogue between the Pentagon and industry, and a sign of the challenge of boosting arms production in response to the ongoing conflict. The RFI, on behalf of the new undersecretary of defense for acquisitions and sustainment, Bill LaPlante, is seeking input “from across industry” about air defense, anti-armor, anti-personnel, coastal defense, counter battery, unmanned aerial systems, and communications equipment, such as secure radios and satellite internet gear. To that end, the DoD asks that responding companies describe their weapon, product or system in 100 words or less, and ― in the case of munitions ― check off “appropriate target type(s),” such as area, fixed, airborne/missile, maritime, mine, moving, hard or soft. The RFI says information received will be used to develop requirements for an actual solicitation at a later date…… The cutoff for submissions is May 6, and the DoD is evaluating proposals on a rolling basis….. |
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