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You are a VC10 captain on a trail coming back from, ooh I don't know, let's say Australia. During the take-off brief, which is done on headset, the female loadie and stewardess are gossiping next to the forward galley. They are wittering so loudly that you can here them over the intercomm. Do you?
a. Turn up the intercomm to drown out the cackling from down the back.
b. Ask the navigator to stick his head round the flight deck door and ask them to keep it down a bit.
c. Throw your headset onto the centre console, undo the straps and explode out of the seat like a breaching whale and yell at the top of your voice "Will you two keep it down to a dull f***ing roar back there!" - or words to that effect. Then strap back in whilst the co-pilot, navigator and flight engineer hold their imaginary handbags up to their chins and collectively go "Ooooh."
Mr Potter?
a. Turn up the intercomm to drown out the cackling from down the back.
b. Ask the navigator to stick his head round the flight deck door and ask them to keep it down a bit.
c. Throw your headset onto the centre console, undo the straps and explode out of the seat like a breaching whale and yell at the top of your voice "Will you two keep it down to a dull f***ing roar back there!" - or words to that effect. Then strap back in whilst the co-pilot, navigator and flight engineer hold their imaginary handbags up to their chins and collectively go "Ooooh."
Mr Potter?
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As OC PMS you are tasked to reduce the amount of money the K fleet is spending, on Operation Get Big Dosh, at a comfy hotel near Akronelli. Do you:
a. Catch one of the 3 J models going there that week.
B. Catch one of the 2 VC10s going there that week.
c. Catch one of the 8 Tristars going there that week.
d. Claim you can't get a military seat there, fly out Club Class (at a cost of approx £800), stay in the same hotel as the aircrew and then suggest they move onto base for the one day in four that they are not actually night flying.
a. Catch one of the 3 J models going there that week.
B. Catch one of the 2 VC10s going there that week.
c. Catch one of the 8 Tristars going there that week.
d. Claim you can't get a military seat there, fly out Club Class (at a cost of approx £800), stay in the same hotel as the aircrew and then suggest they move onto base for the one day in four that they are not actually night flying.
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He could have had my seat on the slightly mighty 'J' last week. And I managed to stay on base too in the pampered surroundings of Block 102, surrounded by a medium cold slab of Charlie and a couple of big jugs!!!
Spent my own dosh, had a great kebab and staggered up the wiggly path to bed....the stuff of legends.
In fact, it was so good, I think I'll go there again next week!!
Regards to Most
SFS
Spent my own dosh, had a great kebab and staggered up the wiggly path to bed....the stuff of legends.
In fact, it was so good, I think I'll go there again next week!!
Regards to Most
SFS
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von Reichman,
Bleeding heart ?.........ME !!...In your dreams sonny !
What I cannot stand is self opinionated shiney fleet bully boys who through their position try to impose their will on those they perceive as lesser mortals.
If that DAMO in Washington had had any backbone he would have told your chum to foxtrot oscar and get his arse in gear.
The car was a legitimate piece of indulgence freight and there was no requirement to seek the captains permission to fly it out.
If flight crews had carte blanche to decide what they will or will not take the whole job would become a crock of sh!t.
With regards to indulgence passengers - ie your chums family.Fortunately it is the movers who wave the magic wand and decide who will or will not travel and you will have to live with that.
Re your statement - "Having been at the receiving end of movers mean and spitefulness since that episode it would seem your wish continues to come true" - Hoorah.
It gives me great joy to think that perhaps on at least one occassion I have managed to f4ck up your day.With your attitude it is no more than you deserve.
Bleeding heart ?.........ME !!...In your dreams sonny !
What I cannot stand is self opinionated shiney fleet bully boys who through their position try to impose their will on those they perceive as lesser mortals.
If that DAMO in Washington had had any backbone he would have told your chum to foxtrot oscar and get his arse in gear.
The car was a legitimate piece of indulgence freight and there was no requirement to seek the captains permission to fly it out.
If flight crews had carte blanche to decide what they will or will not take the whole job would become a crock of sh!t.
With regards to indulgence passengers - ie your chums family.Fortunately it is the movers who wave the magic wand and decide who will or will not travel and you will have to live with that.
Re your statement - "Having been at the receiving end of movers mean and spitefulness since that episode it would seem your wish continues to come true" - Hoorah.
It gives me great joy to think that perhaps on at least one occassion I have managed to f4ck up your day.With your attitude it is no more than you deserve.
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Echo 5 - Thanks for that rather turgid diatribe, you've just proved my point about Movers.
November 4 - No longer on the 10 fleet, but yes I did fly with the best captains, and a few bad ones. Just like I've met a few good Movers.
Reichman
November 4 - No longer on the 10 fleet, but yes I did fly with the best captains, and a few bad ones. Just like I've met a few good Movers.
Reichman
Well, 'Reichman' is such a friendly little soul, isn't he?
From Drivers, Airframe point of view, personally I had more problems from some ALMs (though by no means all) then I ever had from Movements staffs.
A classic was the jobsworth who arrived at the ac long after the rest of the crew and announced that we needed to delay our AAR trip because he had to 'check the seats'. This was a no-pax AAR trip and the RV time seemed to mean nothing to him.
Another was the lazy old biddy who turned up in blues (late again) and expected to go flying as crew. Not that I saw the need for ALMs to wear flying suits to lurk in the back of a '10 on a domestic UK towline, but that was the rule and I couldn't turn a blind eye to it! Fortunately we had a keen young steward who was cabin supervisor qualified, so the ALM was told to dispatch and then get off the flight.
Then there was the ALM who refused to take a football belonging to a young grunt flying between Turnhouse and Hannover on the grounds that it was a 'pressurised container'.......
My early exposure to the breed was during a period waiting for my 10 OCU course back in 1983 when I used to go flying with the OCU QFIs. On one trip, this miserable old fool turned up, did the trim sheet, then sat in the back grumbling about everything and anything whilst reading the newspaper. His oh so demanding cabin service consisted of throwing the infamous S1 boxes at the crew and producing a single cup of tea in 3 hours....
I used to get a bit pi$$ed off with the pointless bickering between MALMs (usually) and some of the Movements folk - totally avoidable and symptomatic of the "I'm a Master - and considerably more important than yow" mentality......
Shall now step out of the ring and let you folk slug it out....
From Drivers, Airframe point of view, personally I had more problems from some ALMs (though by no means all) then I ever had from Movements staffs.
A classic was the jobsworth who arrived at the ac long after the rest of the crew and announced that we needed to delay our AAR trip because he had to 'check the seats'. This was a no-pax AAR trip and the RV time seemed to mean nothing to him.
Another was the lazy old biddy who turned up in blues (late again) and expected to go flying as crew. Not that I saw the need for ALMs to wear flying suits to lurk in the back of a '10 on a domestic UK towline, but that was the rule and I couldn't turn a blind eye to it! Fortunately we had a keen young steward who was cabin supervisor qualified, so the ALM was told to dispatch and then get off the flight.
Then there was the ALM who refused to take a football belonging to a young grunt flying between Turnhouse and Hannover on the grounds that it was a 'pressurised container'.......
My early exposure to the breed was during a period waiting for my 10 OCU course back in 1983 when I used to go flying with the OCU QFIs. On one trip, this miserable old fool turned up, did the trim sheet, then sat in the back grumbling about everything and anything whilst reading the newspaper. His oh so demanding cabin service consisted of throwing the infamous S1 boxes at the crew and producing a single cup of tea in 3 hours....
I used to get a bit pi$$ed off with the pointless bickering between MALMs (usually) and some of the Movements folk - totally avoidable and symptomatic of the "I'm a Master - and considerably more important than yow" mentality......
Shall now step out of the ring and let you folk slug it out....
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Beags, I am friendly, you know I am. But just like you don't like shineys and loadies, I don't like movers - that's why they get bantered.
3xGreens - As you are now getting personal with your insults I'll assume you have reached your banter cut off point. And you smell.
And now back to the thread..........
....I think it was for Aircrew.
3xGreens - As you are now getting personal with your insults I'll assume you have reached your banter cut off point. And you smell.
And now back to the thread..........
....I think it was for Aircrew.
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Mr Reichman,
If you hadn't related that sad tale of your chums malicious act then E5 would not have kicked off but I'm sure that that was the bite you were looking for.
In deference to your feelings I have edited my last post and removed the word "total".
If you hadn't related that sad tale of your chums malicious act then E5 would not have kicked off but I'm sure that that was the bite you were looking for.
In deference to your feelings I have edited my last post and removed the word "total".
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Beags.
Well said. I trained as a widebody dispatcher instructor at BA Cranebank in 1983 and what a different method of operating. Once you'd completed your Loadsheet/DAC paperwork etc you then went to the aircraft and dealt directly with the Acft Captain. No interference from the ALM who was desperately trying to find something wrong and score smarty points. The Cabin Staff (BA) knew nothing about weight and balance but were experts on emergency drills, first aid etc and above all the welfare of the passenger. Maybe's the RAF Transport Fleet could learn something?
Well said. I trained as a widebody dispatcher instructor at BA Cranebank in 1983 and what a different method of operating. Once you'd completed your Loadsheet/DAC paperwork etc you then went to the aircraft and dealt directly with the Acft Captain. No interference from the ALM who was desperately trying to find something wrong and score smarty points. The Cabin Staff (BA) knew nothing about weight and balance but were experts on emergency drills, first aid etc and above all the welfare of the passenger. Maybe's the RAF Transport Fleet could learn something?
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I don't like movers - that's why they get bantered
And now back to the thread..........
....I think it was for Aircrew.
....I think it was for Aircrew.
Or did you mean yet again that because this is an "Aircrew" forum you should be able to post whatever you like and get away with it because anyone who is not aircrew shouldn't be reading it?
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November4,
I say banter, you say offensive. Hard luck mate. Just because I don't agree with someone doesn't mean I'm going to slag them off with personal insults. We're all big boys and girls (some bigger than others). We're all entitled to our opinions, and these forums are where we get to air them. So, yes, I should be able to post what l like as long as it's not breaking any laws or pprune rules (which I'm sure I haven't). If you don't like it come up with a witty retort or a reasoned argument.
3xGreens,
The bate is easily taken these days. Feelings intact mate.
Bullman,
Is that the best you can come up with?
Back to the thread?
I say banter, you say offensive. Hard luck mate. Just because I don't agree with someone doesn't mean I'm going to slag them off with personal insults. We're all big boys and girls (some bigger than others). We're all entitled to our opinions, and these forums are where we get to air them. So, yes, I should be able to post what l like as long as it's not breaking any laws or pprune rules (which I'm sure I haven't). If you don't like it come up with a witty retort or a reasoned argument.
3xGreens,
The bate is easily taken these days. Feelings intact mate.
Bullman,
Is that the best you can come up with?
Back to the thread?
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What the hell happened to this thread!?
There was a time i could click to "last page" and have a good old chuckle at the latest adventures of my fellow Ascoteers ......
Shame on you all.....
To re-establish this as a top thread, do we:
A: continue with the current style of reply (not a multiple choice in site)?
B: Make anyone who has fallen out with all the bad vibe posts, kiss and make up?
C: Cut our losses and start again?
D: Only post humorous replies containing splendid acts and deeds executed by the queens finest Ascoteering mates delivered in a multiple choice styleie where the correct answer is ALWAYS D?
There was a time i could click to "last page" and have a good old chuckle at the latest adventures of my fellow Ascoteers ......
Shame on you all.....
To re-establish this as a top thread, do we:
A: continue with the current style of reply (not a multiple choice in site)?
B: Make anyone who has fallen out with all the bad vibe posts, kiss and make up?
C: Cut our losses and start again?
D: Only post humorous replies containing splendid acts and deeds executed by the queens finest Ascoteering mates delivered in a multiple choice styleie where the correct answer is ALWAYS D?
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Hi Gang;
I think ABIW asked to move this to...
A..The movers thread
B...The loadies thread
C...Stinky K Nav thread
D..The movers v Loadies thread
Oh, and Beags, we're not all Masters and sometimes the pilots are a wee bit precious too!!!
Regards...
SFS
I think ABIW asked to move this to...
A..The movers thread
B...The loadies thread
C...Stinky K Nav thread
D..The movers v Loadies thread
Oh, and Beags, we're not all Masters and sometimes the pilots are a wee bit precious too!!!
Regards...
SFS