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Old 4th Jun 2023, 21:23
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ORAC, I don’t know what their options are, but it is almost as if they have no clue what to do.… The same as the last 15 months.
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Russia to basically sign up all men.
Men without training and the right kit are just targets or sandbags.
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BREAKING: Prigozhin's Wagner PMC mercenaries have captured a Russian army Lt. Colonel. The embers of civil war in Russia begin to glow brighter.

It appears both sides suffered significant casualties in this Russian-on-Russian gun fight.

Status of the Russian army: a Russian privately-owned armed group detains, beats a lieutenant-colonel of Russia's regular army (his name's Roman Venevitin), then puts out a video of his interrogation.

The head of the Wagner Group Yevgeny Prigozhin released footage of the commander of the Russian 72nd Motor Rifle Brigade being interrogated by Prigozhin's subordinate.

The commander confessed that he ordered Russian troops to open fire at Wagner's vehicle near Bakhmut on May 17.



Ramzan Kadyrov says he has 70,000 fully equipped and spetsnaz-trained troops in Ukraine and offers his help in Belgorod. Aside from Russian MoD and PMC Wagner, there is a third side in this internal conflict, Kadyrov, who has beef with Prigozhin.

​​​​​​​Whether he actually has these troops is another question….
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Wartranslated..

Let's be honest, this is not a position the attacking side wants to find itself in.

You exhausted all your offensive potential, you're bracing for an ever-increasing likelihood of a major defensive battle with forces very different from what you had at the peak, all while the enemy is making significant moves in your vulnerable underbelly at your pre-war borders.

Things indeed seem so bad that I sometimes think they are giving up on purpose.

​​​​​​​ Their channels are all just sharing each other's statements about the "nazis", it's so much cope and zero substance, no clear military narrative. Prigozhin is the only one appearing in public but he's hardly convincing or reassuring, just trolling.

I think Russia could be at the negotiating table right now begging Ukraine and the Allies to agree to peace conditions in order to have a chance to save the country.

And this is just how things are right this moment, before anything that's coming has happened... (which I have no insights into).

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Originally Posted by ORAC

Ramzan Kadyrov says he has 70,000 fully equipped and spetsnaz-trained troops in Ukraine and offers his help in Belgorod. Aside from Russian MoD and PMC Wagner, there is a third side in this internal conflict, Kadyrov, who has beef with Prigozhin.

Whether he actually has these troops is another question….
Is that a likely number?

That is 10% of the male population of Chechnya; and around 50% of all military age males... Who is running the shop in the background? and how is he intending on retaining any power in Chechnya as he has his own problems there?

I would suggest dropping a zero off his estimates..



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Being reported that Russia believes the counter offensive has begun.


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Well that’s new, a Russian having a go at women supporting the war and the police simply let him go.

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Epic…

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Originally Posted by NutLoose
Being reported that Russia believes the counter offensive has begun.
https://twitter.com/sentdefender/sta...C-ib7Lg50uAAAA
propaganda flying thick and fast already. Note on the thread the Russians count 2 Russian tanks as being Ukrainian tanks, that get destroyed. The iron works/russian bear cage on the top of the ones blowing up suggest otherwise.
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That will be useful for Ukraine….

"The test proved compatibility between Excalibur, the U.S. Army’s Modular Artillery Charge System (MACS) and #CAESAR. During the demo, the CAESAR-fired #Excalibur directly struck two targets at a distance of more than 46 kilometers, a record setting range from the gun system".

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This reminds me of Hitlers final days, refusing to hear bad news

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Someone needs a reality fix..

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It appears that Russians have now realised that things might not be a bed of roses post the Kremlin strike..

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Get well soon

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BREAKING: Prigozhin claims that the Ukrainian Army has retaken parts of the village of Berkhivka, immediately to the north of Bakhmut.

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Request not to post demining video's

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We are told Ukraine is Locked and Loaded, all operationally silent now please, you'll know until when. Goodluck guys we are with you. Victory for Ukraine
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Wait, isn't this what they have been doing for over a year now, just not giving them the 30 mins.... what planet is he on? as for the Russian cities, odds on they were hit by erm... Russians.

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PSYOPS, Raschist audience scared pantless with a deep fake video of Putin announcing general mobilization and martial law broadcasted on tv.
Priceless.


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While waiting for news regarding the counter offensive, this sums up the situation rather well, I'd say.
Putin remains the master strategist, as one account has convinced all.


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