Ukraine War Thread Part 2
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LW, I have been up to my ears in testing turbofan engines, and also turbo propellers. I have offered Ukraine increased range of their drones, should they wish, it is up to them to take the requisite steps. While dealing with content management for the STC series that we are working on, I had the pleasure of communicating with a lady working for a Scandinavian company, who was living in Kyiv. Her husband is doing his bit and is aiding in a lot of the content that arises here of FPV imagery. While on that call, we were interrupted by 2PM Charlie, another raid by F Troop.
We appear to be at an inflection point at present, with G7, The WH the EU and NATO acting with some resolve
Havana hosting the pride of the remnants of Grand Admiral Zinovy Rozhestvensky's summer cruise to the Straits of Tsushima probably doesn't mean the start of a greater conflict, it probably means there will be some drunk sailors conducting social discourse on the return to the good ol' days, as they always have done.
The balkanising of the nuclear stockpile of the soon to be forgotten Russian empire remains a prickly problem, but it was ever thus.
The key question is that during campaigning season (this summer) can the mass that Putin has put together (as discussed by Mooch and Justin) make another breakthrough into more of Ukraine, or can Ukraine hold them off? Putin's betting the former, I am hoping for the latter.
I have an idea, not sure if it's valid. (Heck, it might be in the category of "Uh, what? Seriously?")
Mr. Macron had made noises about putting French troops into Ukraine. I wonder if he could put a few maneuver battalions or brigades along the Belarus border as a "don't even think about coming across here" message to Lukashenko. That might free up a few UA maneuver units for the central and southern fronts.
Their basis? Article 51 of the UN, the right of self defense.
One does not need a UNSCR to help another nation on a bilateral basis.
There may be other nations interested in participating in that.
Or not.
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I may be in the land of "when pigs fly" with that thought.
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Latest US supplies to Ukraine includes not 10, not 20 M113’s, but 200!!!!
They are FINALLY GETTING SERIOUS,!
https://www.forbes.com/sites/vikramm...-for-ukraine/#
They are FINALLY GETTING SERIOUS,!
More importantly, the M113 is a versatile vehicle that can be easily modified for the changing battlefield as both sides adopt new technologies and tactics to break through their adversaries’ lines. The M113 can be configured for a number of different purposes in addition to being a troop transport, such as command posts, ambulances, and logistical resupply. It can also be augmented with heavier weapon systems, including TOW missiles and high-caliber machine guns. An image circulated on social media even showed a Ukrainian M113 with a ZU-23-2 23-mm anti-aircraft automatic cannon mounted on top. Furthermore, the design of the M113 allows for the rapid integration of new technology, including the potential to carry electronic warfare and counter-drone equipment.
The M113 is also an appropriate vehicle given the current composition of Russian equipment. Russia is fielding a number of older vehicles and weapon platforms and using them in conjunction with advanced technologies, especially electronic warfare systems. The M113 was designed during the Cold War specifically to counter the Soviet equipment that the Russians are now fielding. Additionally, the M113 is old enough that much of its technology is analog. As the Russian military deploys newer and more advanced electronic warfare systems, the analog systems of the M113 remain unaffected.
The M113 also has several other strategic benefits. First, the M113 is relatively inexpensive compared to more modern armored vehicles, enabling the United States to send multiple M113s instead of a single Bradley Fighting Vehicle. Second, its operational costs are lower because it is lighter, allowing it to use half the fuel of a Bradley Fighting Vehicle. Third, Ukraine has received a large number of M113s from previous American aid packages and from other countries, making them familiar with the vehicle and reducing the time required to train personnel for operation and maintenance. Further, Ukraine has access to a large inventory of spare parts by cannibalizing M113s damaged over the past two years of conflict.
The inclusion of M113s in the recent aid packages to Ukraine highlights the complex nature of technology in this conflict. While both sides are rushing to develop more advanced drone and electronic warfare technology, there are also cases where older systems, such as the M113, is a useful piece of equipment for the battlefield. The 200 M113s in the most recent aid package will make a direct and immediate impact on the battlefield.
The M113 is also an appropriate vehicle given the current composition of Russian equipment. Russia is fielding a number of older vehicles and weapon platforms and using them in conjunction with advanced technologies, especially electronic warfare systems. The M113 was designed during the Cold War specifically to counter the Soviet equipment that the Russians are now fielding. Additionally, the M113 is old enough that much of its technology is analog. As the Russian military deploys newer and more advanced electronic warfare systems, the analog systems of the M113 remain unaffected.
The M113 also has several other strategic benefits. First, the M113 is relatively inexpensive compared to more modern armored vehicles, enabling the United States to send multiple M113s instead of a single Bradley Fighting Vehicle. Second, its operational costs are lower because it is lighter, allowing it to use half the fuel of a Bradley Fighting Vehicle. Third, Ukraine has received a large number of M113s from previous American aid packages and from other countries, making them familiar with the vehicle and reducing the time required to train personnel for operation and maintenance. Further, Ukraine has access to a large inventory of spare parts by cannibalizing M113s damaged over the past two years of conflict.
The inclusion of M113s in the recent aid packages to Ukraine highlights the complex nature of technology in this conflict. While both sides are rushing to develop more advanced drone and electronic warfare technology, there are also cases where older systems, such as the M113, is a useful piece of equipment for the battlefield. The 200 M113s in the most recent aid package will make a direct and immediate impact on the battlefield.
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QUICK TAKE - Russians are worried that Ukrainian military is targeting their fixed-wing ISR drones: "This is an extremely alarming development. While people do not directly die from such actions, the consequences may be more serious than from the delivery of dozens of Abrams (tanks)."…..
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Ukrainian Armed Forces block Russian units at the Aggregate Plant in Vovchansk
According to Russian media reports, the occupiers have been unsuccessfully trying to unblock their military on the plant's territory for two days.
Russian soldiers at the plant are constantly being hit by bombs and artillery, which leads to an increase in the number of wounded and dead. The supply of medicines and provisions is impossible.
BREAKING ‼️ The number of Russian in a cauldron in Vovchansk is estimated to 400 by Russian born journalist Nevzorov
The Russians are on the brink of surrendering, according to him.
According to Russian media reports, the occupiers have been unsuccessfully trying to unblock their military on the plant's territory for two days.
Russian soldiers at the plant are constantly being hit by bombs and artillery, which leads to an increase in the number of wounded and dead. The supply of medicines and provisions is impossible.
BREAKING ‼️ The number of Russian in a cauldron in Vovchansk is estimated to 400 by Russian born journalist Nevzorov
The Russians are on the brink of surrendering, according to him.
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Not sure if this has been posted previously, please feel free to relocate/remove if so.
Life expectancy of Russian soldiers when reaching the frontline: 8 hours. A Chinese merc on the Russian side shares his insight in this clip.
Life expectancy of Russian soldiers when reaching the frontline: 8 hours. A Chinese merc on the Russian side shares his insight in this clip.
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https://english.nv.ua/nation/crimean...-50426537.html
Russia withdraws protection from Crimean Bridge, says Ukrainian Navy spokeperson
"They previously had 10 to 14 ships and boats at sea at the same time to guard the bridge, and now there are zero. They have to somehow solve this problem," said Ukrainian Navy spokesperson Captain 3rd Rank Dmytro Pletenchuk in an interview with Radio NV on June 12.
"They are trying to limit maneuverability as much as possible, narrowing the passage to better control this part of the sea and protect the bridge," Pletenchuk said. "So they are constructing passive barriers and engineering structures using barges with booms. The goal is to counteract."
Earlier, British intelligence reported that Russia had placed eight barges near the southern side of the Crimean bridge to protect it from Ukrainian drone attacks.
Defense Express analyzed the video of the destruction of the Russian tugboat Saturn, released by HUR, and concluded that the Magura V5 was used to practice navigating through the booby traps.
Russia withdraws protection from Crimean Bridge, says Ukrainian Navy spokeperson
"They previously had 10 to 14 ships and boats at sea at the same time to guard the bridge, and now there are zero. They have to somehow solve this problem," said Ukrainian Navy spokesperson Captain 3rd Rank Dmytro Pletenchuk in an interview with Radio NV on June 12.
"They are trying to limit maneuverability as much as possible, narrowing the passage to better control this part of the sea and protect the bridge," Pletenchuk said. "So they are constructing passive barriers and engineering structures using barges with booms. The goal is to counteract."
Earlier, British intelligence reported that Russia had placed eight barges near the southern side of the Crimean bridge to protect it from Ukrainian drone attacks.
Defense Express analyzed the video of the destruction of the Russian tugboat Saturn, released by HUR, and concluded that the Magura V5 was used to practice navigating through the booby traps.
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I have an idea, not sure if it's valid. (Heck, it might be in the category of "Uh, what? Seriously?")
Mr. Macron had made noises about putting French troops into Ukraine. I wonder if he could put a few maneuver battalions or brigades along the Belarus border as a "don't even think about coming across here" message to Lukashenko. That might free up a few UA maneuver units for the central and southern fronts.
Their basis? Article 51 of the UN, the right of self defense.
One does not need a UNSCR to help another nation on a bilateral basis.
There may be other nations interested in participating in that.
Or not.
Mr. Macron had made noises about putting French troops into Ukraine. I wonder if he could put a few maneuver battalions or brigades along the Belarus border as a "don't even think about coming across here" message to Lukashenko. That might free up a few UA maneuver units for the central and southern fronts.
Their basis? Article 51 of the UN, the right of self defense.
One does not need a UNSCR to help another nation on a bilateral basis.
There may be other nations interested in participating in that.
Or not.
Should prefer to see a coalition of states to guard the border under Art 51 with a caution that should Vlad target them, they are weapons free against all Russian targets within Ukraine as a starting point, and permitting Ukraine to target into Russia against military targets.
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Not sure if this has been posted previously, please feel free to relocate/remove if so.
Life expectancy of Russian soldiers when reaching the frontline: 8 hours. A Chinese merc on the Russian side shares his insight in this clip.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_jdfaI5dyQ
Life expectancy of Russian soldiers when reaching the frontline: 8 hours. A Chinese merc on the Russian side shares his insight in this clip.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_jdfaI5dyQ
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I wonder if the USA is secretly field testing some of their new kit in the Ukraine. Personally I'd love to see some M2 Bradleys fielded with the new 50mm chain gun. You can't get testing like real combat.
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Video, looks neat and mass producible …..
The Sphere 1.1 is a scalable Ukrainian drone munition made from printed components.
Each fragmentation ring with plastic explosive is 200g, for a total of 1.1kg for the four-part munition.
The Sphere 1.1 is a scalable Ukrainian drone munition made from printed components.
Each fragmentation ring with plastic explosive is 200g, for a total of 1.1kg for the four-part munition.
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Video"I'm sorry to say it, but we, the Western world, are idiots" - Vice Speaker of the Polish Senate Michał Kamiński.
According to him, the Western world is repeating the same mistakes concerning Russia but expects different results.
"It will not happen. If you give them a hand, they will eat you. It's their nature," Kamiński added.
According to him, the Western world is repeating the same mistakes concerning Russia but expects different results.
"It will not happen. If you give them a hand, they will eat you. It's their nature," Kamiński added.
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Interesting, probably for the first time since 22nd Feb 2022 no Russian tank losses reported, and only six APC's.
At the same time the reported daily losses of trucks and artillery (and MLRS + AD resources) are rising steadily.
The long range weapons striking the Russian rear is working and the russkies are up to something.
In the meantime,more and older armored vehicles are being transferred to the war. Note the complimentary parasols on these T62's
At the same time the reported daily losses of trucks and artillery (and MLRS + AD resources) are rising steadily.
The long range weapons striking the Russian rear is working and the russkies are up to something.
In the meantime,more and older armored vehicles are being transferred to the war. Note the complimentary parasols on these T62's
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Got to love all the free intel. Even if salvaged rather than published by the Russians themselves, you’d think they’d scrape off the labels before use.
Russian FPVs are appearing with control frequencies below the typical 700-1200 MHz range.
This will require additional jamming frequencies for EW devices, though the majority of Russian FPVs will continue to use the traditional frequencies due to cost.
Video remains at 4.9 GHz.
Russian FPVs are appearing with control frequencies below the typical 700-1200 MHz range.
This will require additional jamming frequencies for EW devices, though the majority of Russian FPVs will continue to use the traditional frequencies due to cost.
Video remains at 4.9 GHz.
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Got to love all the free intel. Even if salvaged rather than published by the Russians themselves, you’d think they’d scrape off the labels before use.
Russian FPVs are appearing with control frequencies below the typical 700-1200 MHz range.
This will require additional jamming frequencies for EW devices, though the majority of Russian FPVs will continue to use the traditional frequencies due to cost.
Video remains at 4.9 GHz.
Russian FPVs are appearing with control frequencies below the typical 700-1200 MHz range.
This will require additional jamming frequencies for EW devices, though the majority of Russian FPVs will continue to use the traditional frequencies due to cost.
Video remains at 4.9 GHz.