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Old 28th Mar 2024, 19:29
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Reference the purchase of the Greek F-16 radars by Ukraine…. And possibly the aircraft as well….

🇺🇦🇬🇷 Kathimerini reports that Ukraine has in fact expressed interest, via intermediaries, in acquiring both the APG-68 radars and the fighter jets that the Greek MND is looking to retire.

Around 10 radar sets and other systems from the Block 52s should be available so far.…
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The Operator that downed their own fighter has been identified.

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Old 28th Mar 2024, 22:27
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Originally Posted by Wokkafans
Russian S400, or Pantsir S1 air defence system located near Inkerman at 44.60668893, 33.59506617 - likely responsible for taking down the SU-27.
That's some pretty significant digits on the geo-location! ± 4 microns I'd guess.
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Originally Posted by Tartiflette Fan
Three-fold increase . This seems to imply that Russia has found ways to transcend the bounds of physics. Am I wrong, or simply a victim of nonsensical psyops ?
If launched from an altitude of 30000 ft that's a glide ratio of 10, similar to the glide ratio of a small aircraft.
​No physical impossibility.
Just a matter of increasing substantially the aspect ratio and improving the quality of the wet surface (no protruding rivet).
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Originally Posted by Winemaker
That's some pretty significant digits on the geo-location! ± 4 microns I'd guess.
0.00000001 degree of latitude is 1.11 millimeter
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Originally Posted by Luc Lion
0.00000001 degree of latitude is 1.11 millimeter
Ah, I stand corrected! So I was off by 2775 microns; not bad for a blind stab.
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To a Pantsir, IFF obviously stands for “I Fire First”.
Did the pilot get out as I haven’t seen a chute?
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Old 29th Mar 2024, 07:22
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It was reported (somewhere) that he was safe.
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ISW assessment 28th March.

https://www.understandingwar.org/bac...-march-28-2024

…..Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky stated in an interview with CBS News published on March 28 that Ukrainian forces managed to hold off Russian advances through winter 2023–2024 and that Ukrainian forces have stabilized the operational situation…. Zelensky stated that Ukrainian forces are not prepared to defend against another major Russian offensive effort expected in May or June 2024….

Russian forces will likely continue to maintain the tempo of their offensive operations through spring 2024 regardless of difficult weather and terrain conditions in order to exploit Ukrainian materiel shortages before the arrival of expected limited Western security assistance…..

Pervasive shortages may be forcing Ukraine to prioritize limited resources to critical sectors of the front, increasing the risk of a Russian breakthrough in other less-well-provisioned sectors….


The continued degradation of Ukraine’s air defense umbrella provides one of the most immediate avenues through which Russian forces could generate non-linear operational impacts.

…. Intensified Russian drone and missile strikes are likely once again placing pressures on Ukraine to prioritize the allocation of sparse air defense assets to defending population centers, critical infrastructure, and industrial facilities in the rear over positions along the frontline.

Kuleba stated that Russia’s widespread use of glide bombs along the frontline gives Russia a major battlefield advantage and that the only way to counter these tactics is for Ukrainian forces to shoot down the Russian aircraft conducting the strikes, which requires a sufficient number of air defense systems along the front….

Ukrainian and Western officials have increasingly warned of a critical shortage of air defense missiles in the coming months, and the further degradation of Ukraine’s air defense umbrella would not only limit Ukraine’s ability to protect critical elements of its war effort in the rear but would also likely afford Russian aviation prolonged secure operation along the frontline.

This security would allow Russian forces to significantly increase glide bomb strikes at scale and possibly even allow Russian forces to conduct routine large-scale aviation operations against near rear Ukrainian logistics and cities to devastating effect…

Zelensky stated on March 28 that five to seven additional Patriot air defense systems would allow Ukraine to protect population centers, industrial facilities, and the Ukrainian military.

Kuleba also noted that Patriot air defense systems are needed to defend Ukraine against intensified Russian ballistic missile strikes, as Ukraine’s Soviet-era air defense systems are unable to intercept these missiles….
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The Ukrainian Air Force says Russia launched 99 missiles and UAVs over night, including:
-60 Shahed drones
-3 Kinzhal
-2 Iskander-M and 4 Iskander-K
-9 Kh-59
-21 Kh-101 / Kh-555


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https://kyivindependent.com/poland-s...issile-attack/

Poland scrambles jets during Russian missile attack

Polish and other allied aircraft were scrambled on March 29 in response to reports of a massive Russian missile attack against Ukraine, the Operational Command of Poland's Armed Forces announced.

Ukraine's Air Force warned that Russia had launched multiple waves of missiles overnight and that an aerial alert was in effect throughout the country.

Explosions have been reported in multiple cities, including Dnipro and Ivano-Frankivsk, at the time of this publication……
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FPV drone takes down Russian drone in flight.


https://www.forces.net/ukraine/drone...an-counterpart
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Oh dear never mind.

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I thought he was dead?

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Originally Posted by NutLoose
If not when we thought he was....it's only a matter of time.
​​​​​​​Hopefully at the hands of the Russian population when they rise up.
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Originally Posted by ORAC
https://kyivindependent.com/poland-s...issile-attack/

Poland scrambles jets during Russian missile attack

Polish and other allied aircraft were scrambled on March 29 in response to reports of a massive Russian missile attack against Ukraine, the Operational Command of Poland's Armed Forces announced.

Ukraine's Air Force warned that Russia had launched multiple waves of missiles overnight and that an aerial alert was in effect throughout the country.

Explosions have been reported in multiple cities, including Dnipro and Ivano-Frankivsk, at the time of this publication……
F16's (well, F16) :-)
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
The Operator that downed their own fighter has been identified.



https://twitter.com/osint_69/status/1773378100455186589
Such events always remind me of this WW2 Cartoon

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Old 29th Mar 2024, 16:35
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Originally Posted by jolihokistix
It was reported (somewhere) that he was safe.
And perhaps hunting for the monkey that shot him down?
perhaps Russian pilots should be attacking Russian AA sites for their own survival
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Originally Posted by ORAC
ISW assessment 28th March.
The continued degradation of Ukraine’s air defense umbrella provides one of the most immediate avenues through which Russian forces could generate non-linear operational impacts.

…. Intensified Russian drone and missile strikes are likely once again placing pressures on Ukraine to prioritize the allocation of sparse air defense assets to defending population centers, critical infrastructure, and industrial facilities in the rear over positions along the frontline.

Kuleba stated that Russia’s widespread use of glide bombs along the frontline gives Russia a major battlefield advantage and that the only way to counter these tactics is for Ukrainian forces to shoot down the Russian aircraft conducting the strikes, which requires a sufficient number of air defense systems along the front….

Ukrainian and Western officials have increasingly warned of a critical shortage of air defense missiles in the coming months, and the further degradation of Ukraine’s air defense umbrella would not only limit Ukraine’s ability to protect critical elements of its war effort in the rear but would also likely afford Russian aviation prolonged secure operation along the frontline.

This security would allow Russian forces to significantly increase glide bomb strikes at scale and possibly even allow Russian forces to conduct routine large-scale aviation operations against near rear Ukrainian logistics and cities to devastating effect…

Zelensky stated on March 28 that five to seven additional Patriot air defense systems would allow Ukraine to protect population centers, industrial facilities, and the Ukrainian military.

Kuleba also noted that Patriot air defense systems are needed to defend Ukraine against intensified Russian ballistic missile strikes, as Ukraine’s Soviet-era air defense systems are unable to intercept these missiles….
I wonder how long it takes to manufacture a new Patriot system - or better yet a whole shipload of the things...
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