Ukraine War Thread Part 2
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and not a weapon amongst them. Strange that.
"Extremely grim results of today's strike by Ukrainian forces against a large group of Russian soldiers who lined up on an empty field filmed from the side. The strike was reported earlier today, but surprisingly, footage emerged."
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One of the Musk-a-tears been at work?
- grain and other foodstuffs not going to Africa but flooding the EU market, destroying farmers lives.
- grain and other foodstuffs use pesticides and farming methods banned in the EU.
- top ten agribusinesses that dominate Ukraine, are domiciled overseas and do not pay tax in Ukraine.
But hey, isin't posting about farmers and grain on a military aviation forum off topic?
Back on topic, seems like the hawks on this thread are in the extreme minority amongst European society. Maybe it's just a pommy thing?
Support for Ukraine among Europeans remains broad, but nearly two years after the full-scale invasion barely 10% now believe it can defeat Russia, according to an EU-wide survey – with some form of “compromise settlement” seen as the most likely end point.
The shift in sentiment – this time last year, more Europeans than not said Ukraine must regain all its lost territory – will demand that politicians take a more “realistic” approach that focuses on defining what an acceptable peace must actually mean, the report’s authors argue.
The shift in sentiment – this time last year, more Europeans than not said Ukraine must regain all its lost territory – will demand that politicians take a more “realistic” approach that focuses on defining what an acceptable peace must actually mean, the report’s authors argue.
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Meanwhile in our on-topic program, Ukrainian air defences are on a roll. Another SU-34 shot down today.
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From that Guardian article;
Was pretty self-evident from a few months into Vlad`s "special military operation".
Sooner or later Zelensky will have to bin his "reclaim every inch of territory" aspirations and rhetoric - it ain`t gonna happen, matey... you ain`t got the comparative manpower.
Crimea is gone forever, you can forget that for a start.
Ukraine, with gritted teeth, will eventually have to cede Kherson and Zaporozhie (at least the bits East of the Dnieper?), and probably all of Luhansk and Donetsk.... If they`re lucky, noises coming from Rusland already about Kharkov region as well (!)... "historically a Russian area" etc.
And god help Ukraina if Rossia perseveres with that nutter Medvedev`s (and Co) pronouncements - "we might leave them the Lvov region enclave" etc.
Cultural and geographic genocide is effectively what is being advocated.... and that may very well happen, if this goes on for the medium term future.
"Support for Ukraine among Europeans remains broad, but nearly two years after the full-scale invasion barely 10% now believe it can defeat Russia, according to an EU-wide survey – with some form of “compromise settlement” seen as the most likely end point."
Sooner or later Zelensky will have to bin his "reclaim every inch of territory" aspirations and rhetoric - it ain`t gonna happen, matey... you ain`t got the comparative manpower.
Crimea is gone forever, you can forget that for a start.
Ukraine, with gritted teeth, will eventually have to cede Kherson and Zaporozhie (at least the bits East of the Dnieper?), and probably all of Luhansk and Donetsk.... If they`re lucky, noises coming from Rusland already about Kharkov region as well (!)... "historically a Russian area" etc.
And god help Ukraina if Rossia perseveres with that nutter Medvedev`s (and Co) pronouncements - "we might leave them the Lvov region enclave" etc.
Cultural and geographic genocide is effectively what is being advocated.... and that may very well happen, if this goes on for the medium term future.
Russian mil blogger committed "suicide". Apparently he wrote that the losses in Avdiivka were extremely high and asked for an official enquiry to be opened.
Why am I not surprised?
https://istories.media/news/2024/02/...nchil-s-soboi/
https://twitter.com/francis_scarr/status/1760217486018920705?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7 Ctwgr%5Etweet
Why am I not surprised?
https://istories.media/news/2024/02/...nchil-s-soboi/
https://twitter.com/francis_scarr/status/1760217486018920705?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7 Ctwgr%5Etweet
From that Guardian article;
Was pretty self-evident from a few months into Vlad`s "special military operation".
Sooner or later Zelensky will have to bin his "reclaim every inch of territory" aspirations and rhetoric - it ain`t gonna happen, matey... you ain`t got the comparative manpower.
Crimea is gone forever, you can forget that for a start.
Ukraine, with gritted teeth, will eventually have to cede Kherson and Zaporozhie (at least the bits East of the Dnieper?), and probably all of Luhansk and Donetsk.... If they`re lucky, noises coming from Rusland already about Kharkov region as well (!)... "historically a Russian area" etc.
And god help Ukraina if Rossia perseveres with that nutter Medvedev`s (and Co) pronouncements - "we might leave them the Lvov region enclave" etc.
Cultural and geographic genocide is effectively what is being advocated.... and that may very well happen, if this goes on for the medium term future.
Was pretty self-evident from a few months into Vlad`s "special military operation".
Sooner or later Zelensky will have to bin his "reclaim every inch of territory" aspirations and rhetoric - it ain`t gonna happen, matey... you ain`t got the comparative manpower.
Crimea is gone forever, you can forget that for a start.
Ukraine, with gritted teeth, will eventually have to cede Kherson and Zaporozhie (at least the bits East of the Dnieper?), and probably all of Luhansk and Donetsk.... If they`re lucky, noises coming from Rusland already about Kharkov region as well (!)... "historically a Russian area" etc.
And god help Ukraina if Rossia perseveres with that nutter Medvedev`s (and Co) pronouncements - "we might leave them the Lvov region enclave" etc.
Cultural and geographic genocide is effectively what is being advocated.... and that may very well happen, if this goes on for the medium term future.
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Putin isn’t going to stop with half of Ukraine - read what he’s written and hear what he’s said. The mistake in the past was not believing him.
Russia is pushing for a ceasefire in order t9 gain to time to rearm and rebuild their army - and they are doing both far faster than the West.
Politicians and the military Finland, the Baltics, Germany and others have warned us that we have only 5 years before Russia moves into to attack a NATO nation - again read what they have written and hear what they have said and believe them.
If we don’t help fight them in Ukraine we will have to fight them on our own soil.
Russia is pushing for a ceasefire in order t9 gain to time to rearm and rebuild their army - and they are doing both far faster than the West.
Politicians and the military Finland, the Baltics, Germany and others have warned us that we have only 5 years before Russia moves into to attack a NATO nation - again read what they have written and hear what they have said and believe them.
If we don’t help fight them in Ukraine we will have to fight them on our own soil.
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Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
https://www.politico.eu/article/germ...ck-zimmermann/
Germany faces a political crisis over sending Taurus cruise missiles to Ukraine
BERLIN — Germany's governing coalition is splintering over whether to send Ukraine its powerful Taurus cruise missiles.
On Tuesday, Marie-Agnes Strack-Zimmermann, a member of the Free Democratic Party (FDP) and chair of the Bundestag's defense committee, said she'll support an opposition Christian Democrat measure that explicitly calls for sending the missiles to Kyiv.
"I will personally vote for the CDU/CSU parliamentary group's motion in the plenum this week, as it will explicitly include the Taurus demand," she told POLITICO.
The FDP-Greens-Social Democrat coalition is putting forward a resolution on arming Ukraine that calls for "the delivery of additional necessary long-range weapons systems and ammunition to enable Ukraine to carry out international law-compliant, targeted attacks on strategically important targets deep in the rear area of the Russian aggressor."
The capabilities mentioned in the coalition resolution "can only mean Taurus cruise missiles. However, the SPD failed to mention them by name," Strack-Zimmermann tweeted….
Strack-Zimmermann flagged her intention to also vote for the resolution put forward by the opposition on a Tuesday morning flight from Greece with Defense Minister Boris Pistorius.
She blamed the "stubbornness of the chancellor's office" for the absence of a Taurus reference — "it lacks exactly one word" — in the government's resolution.
The Greens have also backed sending the Taurus to Ukraine, and the party's MPs could join Strack-Zimmermann in supporting the opposition resolution later this week….
"Ukraine is fighting for our peace, our freedom and our future in Europe," Strack-Zimmermann tweeted.
Germany faces a political crisis over sending Taurus cruise missiles to Ukraine
BERLIN — Germany's governing coalition is splintering over whether to send Ukraine its powerful Taurus cruise missiles.
On Tuesday, Marie-Agnes Strack-Zimmermann, a member of the Free Democratic Party (FDP) and chair of the Bundestag's defense committee, said she'll support an opposition Christian Democrat measure that explicitly calls for sending the missiles to Kyiv.
"I will personally vote for the CDU/CSU parliamentary group's motion in the plenum this week, as it will explicitly include the Taurus demand," she told POLITICO.
The FDP-Greens-Social Democrat coalition is putting forward a resolution on arming Ukraine that calls for "the delivery of additional necessary long-range weapons systems and ammunition to enable Ukraine to carry out international law-compliant, targeted attacks on strategically important targets deep in the rear area of the Russian aggressor."
The capabilities mentioned in the coalition resolution "can only mean Taurus cruise missiles. However, the SPD failed to mention them by name," Strack-Zimmermann tweeted….
Strack-Zimmermann flagged her intention to also vote for the resolution put forward by the opposition on a Tuesday morning flight from Greece with Defense Minister Boris Pistorius.
She blamed the "stubbornness of the chancellor's office" for the absence of a Taurus reference — "it lacks exactly one word" — in the government's resolution.
The Greens have also backed sending the Taurus to Ukraine, and the party's MPs could join Strack-Zimmermann in supporting the opposition resolution later this week….
"Ukraine is fighting for our peace, our freedom and our future in Europe," Strack-Zimmermann tweeted.
Remember the videos of the castrated Ukrainian soldier? Remember the bombed theater in Mariupol? Remember the mass graves in Bucha?
Russia has already entered wartime economics, they need to be stopped in Ukraine.
Putin says Russia will push further into Ukraine after 'chaotic' fall of Avdiivka | Reuters
Hoping this has not already been posted.
Hoping this has not already been posted.
Russia is really pushing at the moment, 70(!) destroyed APC's in one day. They are really going for it probably due to the presidential "election" and current shortage of ammunition in Ukraine.
all in all the accumulated numbers of Russian losses are extraordinary: +400k troops, +6500 tanks, +12k APC's, 10k artillery pieces, 1k MLRS...
all in all the accumulated numbers of Russian losses are extraordinary: +400k troops, +6500 tanks, +12k APC's, 10k artillery pieces, 1k MLRS...
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Putin says Russia will push further into Ukraine after 'chaotic' fall of Avdiivka | Reuters
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It makes sense, push until you can establish a strong defendable line.
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Some high ranking Russian Military are toast. he must shop at an RAF tailor BTW
HIMARS strike in Volnovakha district previously eliminated the Russian lieutenant colonel and brigade commander of the 36th hOMSBr Musayev.
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Re the Polish farmers at the Ukraine border causing disruption... WTF is this guy in their country, let alone protesting.
He tells us exactly what’s happening behind the curtain in the Ukraine, why it’s went on for three years now and what will happen after the war is done and over with .