Ukraine War Thread Part 2
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⚡️IAEA confirms 3 direct strikes on main reactor containment structures of Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant.
The main reactor containment structures of the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant had suffered at least three direct strikes, IAEA Director General Rafael Grossi said.
IAEA experts confirmed physical impact of drone attacks at ZNPP today, incl. at 1 of its 6 reactors. One casualty reported.
Damage at unit 6 has not compromised nuclear safety, but this is a serious incident w/ potential to undermine integrity of the reactor’s containment system.
The main reactor containment structures of the Zaporizhzhia Nuclear Power Plant had suffered at least three direct strikes, IAEA Director General Rafael Grossi said.
IAEA experts confirmed physical impact of drone attacks at ZNPP today, incl. at 1 of its 6 reactors. One casualty reported.
Damage at unit 6 has not compromised nuclear safety, but this is a serious incident w/ potential to undermine integrity of the reactor’s containment system.
How would one enforce a NFZ over the area?
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With difficulty, but shooting down any missiles would be a start.
Again who would do it and how? Presumably, the belligerents are already trying to enforce a NFZ on each other as it is.
Again who would do it and how?
All they have to do is get of their collective posteriors and do it.
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Sea Drone (USV) found in Black Sea Is American AM-800 Boat with Massive Soviet STYX missile warhead
An unusual maritime drone was discovered floating upside down in Romanian waters on April 3 2024. The new type of uncrewed surface vessel (USV) was actually based on an American built rescue boat, modified as a drone. It was equipped with a large warhead indicating that it was designed to hit ships or other naval targets.
Romanian forces reportedly destroyed the boat in a controlled explosion on April 5. The events were not publicized initially and few details were revealed when it was later shared in local media. However an analysis of the vessel answers the questions of what it is, yet raises new questions.
The USV uses an AM-800 aluminum-hull rigid inflatable boat (RIB). This is produced by Silver Ships in Alabama, United States. The boat is designed for fire rescue and the original red finish is still visible on the lower hull and inflatable collar.
The AM-800 is around 9.5 meters (31 feet) long including the outboard motors. While still small, this makes it nearly twice the length of the Magura and Sea Baby USVs Ukraine is using. The RIB is likely to be seen from further away. Its powerful warhead may make up for this.
Powerful warhead from Styx missile
The warhead is from a P-20 Styx anti-ship missile. This is a Soviet-era weapon and, while still in service in Russia, is generally viewed as obsolete. It has a noticeably powerful warhead though, it’s main merit. Both Russia and Ukraine likely have easy access to this type of warhead.
The warhead is mounted on a crude wooden frame in the forward deck of the boat. It is a ‘4G20′ model which is associated with P-20 export model variants of the Styx missile. It weighs just under 500kg (1,100lb) of TGAG-5 explosives which is 60% TNT, 20% RDX, 15% aluminum powder and 5% phlegmatizing wax. For context, this is over twice the size of the Harpoon anti-ship missiles’ warhead.
Interestingly, the Houthi Movement has also used this type of warhead on some of its explosive USVs. The Houthi’s had access to these warheads from legacy Yemeni Navy stocks so there is no suggestion of a direct link to this new vessel.
The warhead has a shaped charge at the front to punch a large hole in the ship before the main charge detonates, thus causing more damage. This is described as a high-explosive-cumulative charge. In the missile the shaped charge is facing slightly downwards to cause maximum damage. On the USV however it is desirable to direct the shaped charge directly forward, so the whole warhead has been mounted at an angle. While the stand-off detonation from the USV is less desirable than the penetrating hit of the missile, the size of the warhead makes this USV formidable.
Attribution: Whose is it?
The nationality of the vessel was not shared officially, although some local media suggested that it is Ukrainian. The nature of the vessel, and being based on an American hull, does support this conclusion. The manufacturer, Silver Ships, had previously been reportedly supplying unspecified craft to Ukraine as part of U.S. Aid. So it seems most straightforward that it is Ukrainian. It possibly capsized further north and drifted to where it was found.
However the possibility that it could be Russian should be seriously considered. Russia has tried to disrupt or prevent merchant ships sailing to Ukraine since the end of the Black Sea Grain Initiative last July. Efforts have focused on attacking Ukrainian port infrastructure, but air-dropped mines have also been used. This is likely because mines are more deniable than using warships or missiles.
However the mines have been unsuccessful so far, with some Ukrainian sources suggesting that the Russians are now unable to sow them. Therefore Russia may be tempted to use USVs to hit ships, thus reestablishing a de facto blockade. Although it may be clear which country is doing it, the USVs would still be deniable. It is likely that Russian propaganda would blame Ukraine to create enough ambiguity to avoid immediate consequences.
Whether this USV was Ukrainian (which seems most likely) or Russian may be revealed in due course. But the likelihood of both sides operating USVs in the Black Sea is increasing so a Russian craft is bound to turn up sooner or later.
An unusual maritime drone was discovered floating upside down in Romanian waters on April 3 2024. The new type of uncrewed surface vessel (USV) was actually based on an American built rescue boat, modified as a drone. It was equipped with a large warhead indicating that it was designed to hit ships or other naval targets.
Romanian forces reportedly destroyed the boat in a controlled explosion on April 5. The events were not publicized initially and few details were revealed when it was later shared in local media. However an analysis of the vessel answers the questions of what it is, yet raises new questions.
The USV uses an AM-800 aluminum-hull rigid inflatable boat (RIB). This is produced by Silver Ships in Alabama, United States. The boat is designed for fire rescue and the original red finish is still visible on the lower hull and inflatable collar.
The AM-800 is around 9.5 meters (31 feet) long including the outboard motors. While still small, this makes it nearly twice the length of the Magura and Sea Baby USVs Ukraine is using. The RIB is likely to be seen from further away. Its powerful warhead may make up for this.
Powerful warhead from Styx missile
The warhead is from a P-20 Styx anti-ship missile. This is a Soviet-era weapon and, while still in service in Russia, is generally viewed as obsolete. It has a noticeably powerful warhead though, it’s main merit. Both Russia and Ukraine likely have easy access to this type of warhead.
The warhead is mounted on a crude wooden frame in the forward deck of the boat. It is a ‘4G20′ model which is associated with P-20 export model variants of the Styx missile. It weighs just under 500kg (1,100lb) of TGAG-5 explosives which is 60% TNT, 20% RDX, 15% aluminum powder and 5% phlegmatizing wax. For context, this is over twice the size of the Harpoon anti-ship missiles’ warhead.
Interestingly, the Houthi Movement has also used this type of warhead on some of its explosive USVs. The Houthi’s had access to these warheads from legacy Yemeni Navy stocks so there is no suggestion of a direct link to this new vessel.
The warhead has a shaped charge at the front to punch a large hole in the ship before the main charge detonates, thus causing more damage. This is described as a high-explosive-cumulative charge. In the missile the shaped charge is facing slightly downwards to cause maximum damage. On the USV however it is desirable to direct the shaped charge directly forward, so the whole warhead has been mounted at an angle. While the stand-off detonation from the USV is less desirable than the penetrating hit of the missile, the size of the warhead makes this USV formidable.
Attribution: Whose is it?
The nationality of the vessel was not shared officially, although some local media suggested that it is Ukrainian. The nature of the vessel, and being based on an American hull, does support this conclusion. The manufacturer, Silver Ships, had previously been reportedly supplying unspecified craft to Ukraine as part of U.S. Aid. So it seems most straightforward that it is Ukrainian. It possibly capsized further north and drifted to where it was found.
However the possibility that it could be Russian should be seriously considered. Russia has tried to disrupt or prevent merchant ships sailing to Ukraine since the end of the Black Sea Grain Initiative last July. Efforts have focused on attacking Ukrainian port infrastructure, but air-dropped mines have also been used. This is likely because mines are more deniable than using warships or missiles.
However the mines have been unsuccessful so far, with some Ukrainian sources suggesting that the Russians are now unable to sow them. Therefore Russia may be tempted to use USVs to hit ships, thus reestablishing a de facto blockade. Although it may be clear which country is doing it, the USVs would still be deniable. It is likely that Russian propaganda would blame Ukraine to create enough ambiguity to avoid immediate consequences.
Whether this USV was Ukrainian (which seems most likely) or Russian may be revealed in due course. But the likelihood of both sides operating USVs in the Black Sea is increasing so a Russian craft is bound to turn up sooner or later.
Tell whomever said it to piss off, I suppose.
By attacking the Nuclear Station is Russia desperately trying to get NATO into this war? It's the only reason I can think for for such a potentially disastrous move. If so is Putin struggling to justify this war?
"if I can't have it, nobody can have it, so I'll wreck it."
There's been a consistent theme of wanton destruction, see also the dam, that this would fit into.
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Taking cope cages to the next level: Russian armoured vehicle attacking Krasnohorivka filmed by a Ukrainian drone. April 2024
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Video…Not sure of the extent of the damage caused - but, if true, it’s the fact they could get there at all…BREAKING:
Ukrainian infiltrators entered the Kaliningrad region of Russia and burned down the Russian russian missile carrier "Serpukhov"
The Ukrainians are starting to run out of targets in the Black Sea so now they are mowing over to the Baltic Sea
Ukrainian infiltrators entered the Kaliningrad region of Russia and burned down the Russian russian missile carrier "Serpukhov"
The Ukrainians are starting to run out of targets in the Black Sea so now they are mowing over to the Baltic Sea
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Video…New video shows the moment a bridge collapsed in Russia today. The bridge collapsed over the railroad linking Russia with Belarus.
Much of Russia’s infrastructure was built between the 1930s and 1960s. It hasn’t been been renovated since the early 1980s and is now collapsing
Much of Russia’s infrastructure was built between the 1930s and 1960s. It hasn’t been been renovated since the early 1980s and is now collapsing
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
"Rodents chewed through the dam," - director of the Russian construction comlany that built the dam.
No reports yet whether they arrived as a sabotage group from Ukraine, or are they a part of Russian Volunteer Corps.
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No reports yet whether they arrived as a sabotage group from Ukraine, or are they a part of Russian Volunteer Corps.
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https://x.com/fellacitator/status/17...HhlFHGKbTPQr_A
That's not as impossible as one might think. Years ago during a high river event on the Red Cedar river in Michigan I wandered through the woods down to an earthen levee that contained the river; there was water coming out of a hole that had obviously been made by a muskrat or similar animal. As I watched, unable to do anything as it was already too late, the small flow massively increased until it quickly washed out an entire section of the levee; the river was unleashed and flooded parts of Lansing. I also observed water coming the wrong way through storm drains.
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Video…
New video shows the moment a bridge collapsed in Russia today. The bridge collapsed over the railroad linking Russia with Belarus.
Much of Russia’s infrastructure was built between the 1930s and 1960s. It hasn’t been been renovated since the early 1980s and is now collapsing
New video shows the moment a bridge collapsed in Russia today. The bridge collapsed over the railroad linking Russia with Belarus.
Much of Russia’s infrastructure was built between the 1930s and 1960s. It hasn’t been been renovated since the early 1980s and is now collapsing
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Greece to send 32 F-16’s to Ukraine on top of the 65 from other countries giving Ukraine 97 of them!
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Greece to send 32 F-16’s to Ukraine on top of the 65 from other countries giving Ukraine 97 of them!
https://twitter.com/igorsushko/statu...20177703456858
https://twitter.com/igorsushko/statu...20177703456858
Why would F-16 require french permission. Assume he thinking of the Mirage 2000, they would need french permission where ever they go. Originally they were supposed to be going to india but with the recent change in french policy they might end up in ukraine