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Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Yesterday Russia hit my native Kharkiv using the new aerial bomb "UMPB D-30 SN" for the first time. One person was killed, dozens injured, four kids among them. The youngest injured child was three months old - Kharkiv authorities.
Unlike conventional glide bombs, the "UMPB D-30 SN" has a threefold increased range, is an analogue of the American GBU-39/B SDB and has a range of up to 90 kilometers.
What does this mean for Kharkiv and other Ukrainian territories? Basically, it means that if our Allies do not provide us with at least 8 Patriot systems, then Kharkiv, Sumy, Zaporizhzhia and other cities close to the combat lines will get attacked with massive Russian aviation strikes that will use such long-range glide bombs.
The only effective countermeasure is destroying the Russian carrier aircraft as they get ready to launch the glide bombs 80-90 km away from their targets. This can only be done by Patriot systems that have already proven themselves highly effective in destroying Russian military aircraft.
Otherwise, we are facing an enormous increase of threats to civilians population of these cities as Russia will make new Mariupols out of them.
https://www.armedconflicts.com/UMPB-D-30SN-t276985
Unlike conventional glide bombs, the "UMPB D-30 SN" has a threefold increased range, is an analogue of the American GBU-39/B SDB and has a range of up to 90 kilometers.
What does this mean for Kharkiv and other Ukrainian territories? Basically, it means that if our Allies do not provide us with at least 8 Patriot systems, then Kharkiv, Sumy, Zaporizhzhia and other cities close to the combat lines will get attacked with massive Russian aviation strikes that will use such long-range glide bombs.
The only effective countermeasure is destroying the Russian carrier aircraft as they get ready to launch the glide bombs 80-90 km away from their targets. This can only be done by Patriot systems that have already proven themselves highly effective in destroying Russian military aircraft.
Otherwise, we are facing an enormous increase of threats to civilians population of these cities as Russia will make new Mariupols out of them.
https://www.armedconflicts.com/UMPB-D-30SN-t276985
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Russia has apparently modified a version of the aerial FAB 250 glide bomb to be fired from a ground based Tornado S rocket launcher.
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Kharkiv are getting hot meals shipped in by train while there are power issues... Good on them 
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What a bunch of absolute muppets, Russian's mining the left bank of the river in Kherson plant one mine, then as they are preparing another the current pushes them onto their already planted mine and guess what..... yup, BANG!
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Post the hit on the aft end of the intelligence ship, I would imagine it has lost all power as the attack is close to the engine room etc and could be flooding, do you think the other ship now docked along side is providing power to it, stability and pumps? I.e keeping it afloat.
Russian bomb production. https://twitter.com/banderafella/sta...00559719023075
The ones I refer to were guided. Still made big holes.
F-16's become another part of the war of words.
(source) Putin Issues F-16 Warning (msn.com)
Vladimir Putin has said that Russian forces will destroy any F-16s delivered to Ukraine from its NATO allies "wherever they are," while at the same time insisting that Moscow had no intention of attacking any country in the alliance. Last August, Washington finally authorized allies to give Kyiv the U.S.-made planes, whose more modern avionics and radars hand extra capabilities to Ukraine's Air Force which relies on Soviet-era MiG and Sukhoi jets.
A group of 14 countries has pledged to deliver the aircraft and help with training. Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba said Wednesday the aircraft should arrive in Ukraine in the coming months. During a visit to the 344th Army Aviation Centre where combat pilots are trained, in Torzhok, 160 miles northwest of Moscow, Putin was asked if Russian pilots would be "allowed to hit these targets at NATO airfields."
Putin replied: "Of course, if they are used from airfields of third countries, they become a legitimate target for us, no matter where they are. "We will destroy their planes in the same way that we destroy their tanks, armored vehicles, and other equipment, including multiple launch rocket systems," he said, according to a transcript on the Kremlin website.
"The F-16s are also carriers of nuclear weapons, and we will also have to take this into account when organizing combat work," but he insisted that the aircraft delivery "will not change anything on the battlefield."
During the same question-and-answer session, Putin appeared to contradict this by rejecting the prospect of Russia attacking a NATO country. President Joe Biden warned in December that Putin would strike at NATO, a sentiment shared by other Western leaders and chairman of the alliance's military committee, Admiral Rob Bauer, who spoke in January about the inevitability of war with Russia.
On March 17, Putin said that Russia could face NATO in a full-scale conflict and that "anything is possible in today's world" but the mixed messaging continued when he rejected such a prospect on Wednesday.
"It's complete nonsense the possibility of an attack on some other countries, on Poland, the Baltic states, and elsewhere," Putin said. Russia has framed the full-scale invasion as a proxy war between Moscow and NATO, and Putin rehashed Kremlin rhetoric about the alliance causing the war, although he again rejected Western statements that he would look to attack other countries after Ukraine.
A group of 14 countries has pledged to deliver the aircraft and help with training. Ukrainian Foreign Minister Dmytro Kuleba said Wednesday the aircraft should arrive in Ukraine in the coming months. During a visit to the 344th Army Aviation Centre where combat pilots are trained, in Torzhok, 160 miles northwest of Moscow, Putin was asked if Russian pilots would be "allowed to hit these targets at NATO airfields."
Putin replied: "Of course, if they are used from airfields of third countries, they become a legitimate target for us, no matter where they are. "We will destroy their planes in the same way that we destroy their tanks, armored vehicles, and other equipment, including multiple launch rocket systems," he said, according to a transcript on the Kremlin website.
"The F-16s are also carriers of nuclear weapons, and we will also have to take this into account when organizing combat work," but he insisted that the aircraft delivery "will not change anything on the battlefield."
During the same question-and-answer session, Putin appeared to contradict this by rejecting the prospect of Russia attacking a NATO country. President Joe Biden warned in December that Putin would strike at NATO, a sentiment shared by other Western leaders and chairman of the alliance's military committee, Admiral Rob Bauer, who spoke in January about the inevitability of war with Russia.
On March 17, Putin said that Russia could face NATO in a full-scale conflict and that "anything is possible in today's world" but the mixed messaging continued when he rejected such a prospect on Wednesday.
"It's complete nonsense the possibility of an attack on some other countries, on Poland, the Baltic states, and elsewhere," Putin said. Russia has framed the full-scale invasion as a proxy war between Moscow and NATO, and Putin rehashed Kremlin rhetoric about the alliance causing the war, although he again rejected Western statements that he would look to attack other countries after Ukraine.
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"It's complete nonsense the possibility of an attack on some other countries, on Poland, the Baltic states, and elsewhere," Putin said. Russia has framed the full-scale invasion as a proxy war between Moscow and NATO, and Putin rehashed Kremlin rhetoric about the alliance causing the war, although he again rejected Western statements that he would look to attack other countries after Ukraine.
Unlike conventional glide bombs, the "UMPB D-30 SN" has a threefold increased range, is an analogue of the American GBU-39/B SDB and has a range of up to 90 kilometers.
Otherwise, we are facing an enormous increase of threats to civilians population of these cities as Russia will make new Mariupols out of them.
https://www.armedconflicts.com/UMPB-D-30SN-t276985
Otherwise, we are facing an enormous increase of threats to civilians population of these cities as Russia will make new Mariupols out of them.
https://www.armedconflicts.com/UMPB-D-30SN-t276985
Three-fold increase . This seems to imply that Russia has found ways to transcend the bounds of physics. Am I wrong, or simply a victim of nonsensical psyops ?
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Beats me how that flies with an empennage
The UMPB-D-30SN is a FAB-250 that "received deployable wings, an additional rocket motor and a guidance unit" & it's an "analogue of the American GBU-39/B", range is quoted at 95km
The GBU-39/B doesn't have a rocket motor & has a quoted range of over 111km
I guess the Kremlin have been fudged yet again, this time with chocolate rocket motors!
Scratch one Russian SU-27 - likely to be another own goal.
Another angle of the SU-27 loss.
Another angle of the SU-27 loss.
#BREAKING
Polish Lieutenant General Jaroslaw Gromadzinski, a commander of Eurocorps, a joint military group of some EU and NATO states, has been removed from his post after a counter-intelligence investigation found proof of his work for Russia.
He was responsible for NATO military supplies to Ukraine.
Link (in Polish): https://www.gov.pl/web/obrona-narodowa/komunikat-mon14
Google translation:
Statement of the Ministry of National DefenseMarch 28, 2024
The Military Counterintelligence Service initiated inspection proceedings regarding the personal security clearance of Lieutenant General Jarosław Gromadziński in connection with obtaining new information about the officer.
Therefore, a decision was made to dismiss Lieutenant General Gromadziński from his position as Eurocorps commander and his immediate return to the country.
This decision is made in accordance with the Homeland Defense Act of March 11, 2022, Art. 199, section 2. with the following content: "A professional soldier may be dismissed from his official position in the event of: 1) the needs of the Armed Forces; 2) initiation of inspection verification proceedings referred to in the provisions of the Act of August 5, 2010 on the protection of classified information (Journal of Laws of 2023, items 756, 1030 and 1532) and section 3. with the following text: "In the case referred to in section 1 and section 2 point 1, a professional soldier is appointed to an equivalent or higher service position or transferred to his disposal. The possibility of being appointed to a higher position does not apply to a soldier dismissed from his official position in the case referred to in section 1 point 3".
To ensure the continuity of the functioning of the Eurocorps Command, another officer will be immediately appointed to the position held by Lieutenant General Jarosław Gromadziński.
Janusz Sejmej
Spokesperson of the Ministry of National Defense
AP: https://apnews.com/article/poland-eu...224255852ddd4d
Poland dismisses the Eurocorps reaction unit commander who faces a counterintelligence investigation
Polish Lieutenant General Jaroslaw Gromadzinski, a commander of Eurocorps, a joint military group of some EU and NATO states, has been removed from his post after a counter-intelligence investigation found proof of his work for Russia.
He was responsible for NATO military supplies to Ukraine.
Link (in Polish): https://www.gov.pl/web/obrona-narodowa/komunikat-mon14
Google translation:
Statement of the Ministry of National DefenseMarch 28, 2024
The Military Counterintelligence Service initiated inspection proceedings regarding the personal security clearance of Lieutenant General Jarosław Gromadziński in connection with obtaining new information about the officer.
Therefore, a decision was made to dismiss Lieutenant General Gromadziński from his position as Eurocorps commander and his immediate return to the country.
This decision is made in accordance with the Homeland Defense Act of March 11, 2022, Art. 199, section 2. with the following content: "A professional soldier may be dismissed from his official position in the event of: 1) the needs of the Armed Forces; 2) initiation of inspection verification proceedings referred to in the provisions of the Act of August 5, 2010 on the protection of classified information (Journal of Laws of 2023, items 756, 1030 and 1532) and section 3. with the following text: "In the case referred to in section 1 and section 2 point 1, a professional soldier is appointed to an equivalent or higher service position or transferred to his disposal. The possibility of being appointed to a higher position does not apply to a soldier dismissed from his official position in the case referred to in section 1 point 3".
To ensure the continuity of the functioning of the Eurocorps Command, another officer will be immediately appointed to the position held by Lieutenant General Jarosław Gromadziński.
Janusz Sejmej
Spokesperson of the Ministry of National Defense
AP: https://apnews.com/article/poland-eu...224255852ddd4d
Poland dismisses the Eurocorps reaction unit commander who faces a counterintelligence investigation
From the Ukrainian source:
(...)counter-intelligence investigation found proof of his work for Russia.
The Military Counterintelligence Service initiated inspection proceedings(...)
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Russian S400, or Pantsir S1 air defence system located near Inkerman at 44.60668893, 33.59506617 - likely responsible for taking down the SU-27.
