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Old 26th Mar 2024, 08:44
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Russian Cruise Missle violated for a minute Polish Airspace. At an interesting corner: Oserdow (heading to Lviv region). Released obviously from a long range bomber.

Any ideas where from it could have been fired off? Belarus? Anyway not a DCT as it seems, but I dont know anything about cruise missle routing tactics..

https://www.euronews.com/2024/03/24/...olish-airspace

(sorry, it was on Sunday, so no breaking news here)

here with a map (Guardian)
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...russian-attack
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Iranian officers in Ukraine's temporarily occupied territories killed

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Why stop? crawling fwd at a snails pace would soon shift them, they need to fit a snow plough to the front... or simply arrest them.

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The AFU hit the ship "Konstantin Olshansky" with "Neptune" subsonic cruise missiles. Damage to the vessel is being specified.


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You don't see this often. Elimination of enemy UAV pilots along with their position and equipment.

They are so relaxed that they don’t wear body armor or helmets. They think they are safe if they work from the basement.

A Ukrainian kamikaze drone with a landmine weighing 2 kg flew straight into the basement and detonated. It is impossible to survive after this.

📹 The Strike Drones Company of the 47th Separate Mechanized Brigade "Magura"
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Russia's ambassador to Poland refused to go to the Polish Foreign Ministry, where he was invited about the missile that violated Polish airspace

"Warsaw has not provided an evidentiary basis," - Sergei Andreev said.

Polish Foreign Minister Władysław Kosiniak-Kamysz said in response that further steps would be taken in this regard in the near future.

The minister called the Russian ambassador's decision erroneous: "This is an expression of contempt and we cannot remain indifferent to it," he said.
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Simply deport him, end off.
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Poland doesn't need anyone else's permission to defend their own airspace.
I suspect that their engagement geometry may have risked the engagement / impact / intercept happening outside of their airspace and thus into Russian airspace...so they chose not to shoot.
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Iranian officers in Ukraine's temporarily occupied territories killed
Good news.
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Old 26th Mar 2024, 13:59
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Originally Posted by Lonewolf_50
Poland doesn't need anyone else's permission to defend their own airspace.
I suspect that their engagement geometry may have risked the engagement / impact / intercept happening outside of their airspace and thus into Russian airspace...so they chose not to shoot.
Good news.
In line with what I was thinking. Countries are sovereign in their own actions and are certainly not constrained by any NATO doctrine as that vlogger claimed.
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Originally Posted by NutLoose
Iranian officers in Ukraine's temporarily occupied territories killed



https://twitter.com/TreasChest/statu...06254830633422
No real proof of that though!
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Why stop? crawling fwd at a snails pace would soon shift them, they need to fit a snow plough to the front... or simply arrest them.



https://twitter.com/visegrad24/statu...57034763186332
Perhaps they'd like to enlist as Orcs to help their leader.
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Originally Posted by Lonewolf_50
I suspect that their engagement geometry may have risked the engagement / impact / intercept happening outside of their airspace and thus into Russian airspace...so they chose not to shoot.
Closest Russian airspace to where this incident occurred is nearly 400km. I doubt that this would have been a factor in their decision making
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Originally Posted by Recc
Closest Russian airspace to where this incident occurred is nearly 400km. I doubt that this would have been a factor in their decision making
OK.
What I looked at on the map with the story I saw of the event, it appeared to be an "at the edge of the border airspace" ... but if that impression was wrongly interpreted by me, thanks for the correction.
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Old 26th Mar 2024, 17:55
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Of course Belorussian airspace is much closer and I doubt if they would dare say anything if a missile routed via their airspace in an effort to outflank the defences on its way to a target in western Ukraine.
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Originally Posted by Lonewolf_50
OK.
What I looked at on the map with the story I saw of the event, it appeared to be an "at the edge of the border airspace" ... but if that impression was wrongly interpreted by me, thanks for the correction.
Border airspace is correct, Lonewolf - but it's the Polish-Ukrainian border!

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Originally Posted by Winemaker
At least they will provide an early warning system....
Unless someone flashes a cheap laser pointer at them
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Originally Posted by Winemaker
At least they will provide an early warning system....
Precisely, it will allow them to monitor the likes of illegal aliens attempting to cross the border and target Polish forces to the areas where they have been seen. Thus preventing them being pushed through by Belarus.
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Originally Posted by Recc
Closest Russian airspace to where this incident occurred is nearly 400km. I doubt that this would have been a factor in their decision making
Another possibility is you do not want it falling on a Polish built up area, better to let it pass than cause injuries on the ground.
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Originally Posted by Lonewolf_50
OK.
What I looked at on the map with the story I saw of the event, it appeared to be an "at the edge of the border airspace" ... but if that impression was wrongly interpreted by me, thanks for the correction.
That was not a map in the cartographic sense if the word. Try this instead:

Extract from Soviet military mapping showing Oserḍw/Осердув and the Polish Ukrainian border.
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