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Old 24th Feb 2024, 04:23
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There are reports of an Il-22M being shot down as well.


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A recap of the week…



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A recap of the week…
A healthy war of attrition. Lets just hope their resupply isn't good enough to replace the losses.
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You might replace the airframes (except in the case of the A-50), but they won't be able to replace the combat ready crews inside....
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You might replace the airframes (except in the case of the A-50), but they won't be able to replace the combat ready crews inside....
Which is why we need to end this conflict sooner rather than later. This war has shown Russia to be lacking in well trained personnel. Lets not give them time to reverse that trend.
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How long would it take Russia to build something like an Su34, given the sanctions regime etc? I did read somewhere that they were knocking out tanks at a fair old rate (although no info on their build quality, fit out etc). Re the A50 loss, you can bet your ar5e Russia is looking at the possibility of shoehorning an AEW system into something like their MC21 ('Wedgetailski')

I know the A50 may have been red-on-red, but its intriguing as to why these are being deployed comparatively far forward. I'm guessing the radar systems associated with the big SAM complexes like S400 are uber vulnerable to HIMARs, Storm Shadow etc, and therefore require a fair number of short range air defence systems to protect them.
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How long would it take Russia to build something like an Su34, given the sanctions regime etc? I did read somewhere that they were knocking out tanks at a fair old rate (although no info on their build quality, fit out etc).
Good question!
The relatively high number of Tanks they are putting out is simply due to just refurbishing old ones taken out of storage, not entirely new builds if I'm not completely mistaken. There were said to be thousands of old tanks in storage in various states.
Looking back at the Aircraft production of the last few years around 15 - 20 overall new main Fighter Aircraft per Year seems to be the rough ballpark figure. Considering not all will be SU-34s maybe 10 per Year seems realistic. Not considering longer Term effects of sanctions.

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Originally Posted by henra
Good question!
The relatively high number of Tanks they are putting out is simply due to just refurbishing old ones taken out of storage, not entirely new builds if I'm not completely mistaken. There were said to be thousands of old tanks in storage in various states.
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This. We've already had confirmed videos of T54/T55 in combat use. Last year those were only used as remote controlled mines filled with HE. None were seen in 2022.
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One more SU-34 down.


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Originally Posted by ORAC
You might replace the airframes (except in the case of the A-50), but they won't be able to replace the combat ready crews inside....
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Which is why we need to end this conflict sooner rather than later. This war has shown Russia to be lacking in well trained personnel. Lets not give them time to reverse that trend.
"we"? Is Putin in the room?
It's one of his propaganda goals to change how the war is described in public, that it is NATO that keeps the war going. Hey, he will even say to a willing listener that we started it. We ought it to Ukrainians to resist on this front, way behind the lines.
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SAAB Marketing Director stated that they could send Gripens to Ukraine in a rapid fashion if the SWE government decides so. Apparently, based on other news outlets, the decision is somewhat tied with the NATO accession, ie not happening before it.



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Drone strike this morning on the Novolipetsk steel works - an arms factory - in Lipetsk causing a major fire, . This is the largest steel-works in Russia

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukra...-drone-1873023
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Loss of Assets?

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Drone strike this morning on the Novolipetsk steel works - an arms factory - in Lipetsk causing a major fire, . This is the largest steel-works in Russia

https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukra...-drone-1873023
If the owner's insurance policy doesn't cover him against 'act of war', would it still cover him against 'act of special military operation'?
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I think the opposite is true and she cannot see it.

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It looks like they took out the cooling systems for the steelworks.

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One man’s war against the odds.

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Those grenades make a bit of a mess don't they. I think this clip shows that the fight isn't really in the Russians. Most likely poorly trained saps press ganged into the fight.
​​​​​​​It was one Ukrainian but he had drone support. That's a force multiplier for sure.
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Those sneaky Americans. Stealing launch codes and launching Russian AA missiles against Russian planes.


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