Ukraine Crisis 2014
That's a pretty stupid question, racedo. The folk who feel "US had it coming" on 9-11 are the usual apologists for Al Queda and various terrorists.
West Coast is obviously not one of them.
You?
West Coast is obviously not one of them.
You?
Lists from UK and France are similarly extensive.
As for "they deserve it"...................did the countries bombed deserve it ?
Guess depends on which side of the fence one sits on..............me its a No and No but some people seem happy that any country can be bombed at will.
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Russias hit list.
Wasn't my intention to try and bring any blame, justification or anything else about that list I put up earlier about Russia. If anything I was only musing to myself that every so many years, when it fits them, they can tend to go milling in. The worrying question may be if it suits them to now? We haven't set a good example to the world - we've gone blasting and bullying in both barrels (er, one barrel actually) when it suited us. I just hope and pray that if Russia takes action and invades the Ukraine, we are not involved in any single way. (Should we actually give up our seat as a permanent member of the UN security council now? Because we cant do anything, the world has tumbled this lately).
Wasn't my intention to try and bring any blame, justification or anything else about that list I put up earlier about Russia.
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Back onto topic...an interesting perspective on things here, in Forbes magazine:
Why Is Nobody Saying The Obvious: Putin Destabilized Ukraine - Forbes
Some of it seems a little tin-hatish, but seemingly reputable sources behind it!
Why Is Nobody Saying The Obvious: Putin Destabilized Ukraine - Forbes
Some of it seems a little tin-hatish, but seemingly reputable sources behind it!
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It still amazes me how he rewrote the Russian constitution to remain in power after his terms were done, could you imagine them trying to get that through in the USA.
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Nobody truly understands either Russia or even less Putin, unless you are a Russian.
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Or, from another point of view, Russia has an inferiority complex over the desperate desire for freedom from Russian domination on the part of the people of countries that used to be firmly in its sphere of control.
Two sides of every story, that's reality.
Two sides of every story, that's reality.
Seems the bear might be getting restless.
Report from Reuters, 26th Feb 2014
Putin puts troops in western Russia on alert in drill | Reuters
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Report from Reuters, 26th Feb 2014
President Vladimir Putin ordered an urgent drill to test the combat readiness of the armed forces across western Russia on Wednesday, flexing Moscow's military muscle amid tension with the West over Ukraine.
JAS
That was in 1986.
The question I raised is "bombed" in 1989. You got anything for me on that one?
In 1989 a couple of Lybian fighters were shot down over the Gulf of Sidra.
The Irrepressible Colonel was pushing to see how far he could go with tweaking the new "kinder and gentler" president's nose.
He found out.
The question I raised is "bombed" in 1989. You got anything for me on that one?
In 1989 a couple of Lybian fighters were shot down over the Gulf of Sidra.
The Irrepressible Colonel was pushing to see how far he could go with tweaking the new "kinder and gentler" president's nose.
He found out.
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A little footnote from "simplythebeast's" link
Another data point supporting my old notion that Warren Christopher was in a job that was way over his head. If you look at a map and think through what that guarantee means .. it's like the French guaranteeing Poland's territorial integrity in about 1936. 
Russia, along with the US, UK and France, pledged to uphold the territorial integrity of Ukraine in a memorandum signed in 1994.
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RT link
Looking at the RT spiel, it seems its a "surprise exercise" dropped onto the Russian military by Prez Putin. "Combat Readiness tests "as they are called here.
Apart from the fact this could be cunning plan to invade etc, I was just wondering how we in the UK would fare these days of Dave announced such a party? We would be naffed if it was anytime between 1201 on a Friday to 0800 Monday, granted (especially at Yeovilton or Culdrose).
Surely a short notice combat readiness test must be simply one colossal balls up?
Perhaps our own COS should arrange similar to prove the organization? What has he got to lose?
On a more serious note, just reposting the link Ronald put on, are these pictures recent or library stock? Bet some of you can tell, I cant but it looks like Winter countryside, and presumably this is what a modern Russia armoured assault force on the move looks like? Live ammunition?
http://rt.com/news/putin-drill-combat-army-864/
Apart from the fact this could be cunning plan to invade etc, I was just wondering how we in the UK would fare these days of Dave announced such a party? We would be naffed if it was anytime between 1201 on a Friday to 0800 Monday, granted (especially at Yeovilton or Culdrose).
Surely a short notice combat readiness test must be simply one colossal balls up?
Perhaps our own COS should arrange similar to prove the organization? What has he got to lose?
On a more serious note, just reposting the link Ronald put on, are these pictures recent or library stock? Bet some of you can tell, I cant but it looks like Winter countryside, and presumably this is what a modern Russia armoured assault force on the move looks like? Live ammunition?
http://rt.com/news/putin-drill-combat-army-864/
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If Ukraine turns toward the European Union and the West Putin may well move to seize Crimea.
It is the only region in Ukraine where Russians are in the majority, and there is the critical naval base at Sevastopol that serves as the home of Russia's Black Sea Fleet and gives the Russian Navy direct access to the Mediterranean Sea. Russia has a lease agreement with Ukraine that allows its fleet to remain at Sevastopol until 2042.
There is ample precedent to believe that if Putin and the Russian establishment believed that Ukraine was slipping permanently out of their grasp, then Russia would find a pretext to seize Crimea. Russia has made it quite clear that it considers the former Soviet Union to be a space where it sees itself having wide latitude for maneuver.
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It is the only region in Ukraine where Russians are in the majority, and there is the critical naval base at Sevastopol that serves as the home of Russia's Black Sea Fleet and gives the Russian Navy direct access to the Mediterranean Sea. Russia has a lease agreement with Ukraine that allows its fleet to remain at Sevastopol until 2042.
There is ample precedent to believe that if Putin and the Russian establishment believed that Ukraine was slipping permanently out of their grasp, then Russia would find a pretext to seize Crimea. Russia has made it quite clear that it considers the former Soviet Union to be a space where it sees itself having wide latitude for maneuver.
Bob C