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RAAF Flight Screening Programme

Old 10th Dec 2018, 11:38
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Just pay for a bunch of aerobatics flights. In the position you're in, with nil hours, I can only imagine that doing loops, barrel rolls and incipient spins until you're comfortable in the air/with the g forces would be a hell of a lot more valuable than a few GA hours learning straight and level flight.

Good luck with it!
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Old 12th Dec 2018, 21:44
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Originally Posted by hansfalkenhagen View Post
Just pay for a bunch of aerobatics flights. In the position you're in, with nil hours, I can only imagine that doing loops, barrel rolls and incipient spins until you're comfortable in the air/with the g forces would be a hell of a lot more valuable than a few GA hours learning straight and level flight.

Good luck with it!
Definitely acro all the way. That's a must. In addition I was also hoping to source an ex-mil fixed wing pilot out there who may dabble in some instructing to pick his brain and/or get some pointers from in the cockpit. Not looking to get my CPL or anything, just a couple hours of familiarisation in and around an aircraft.
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Old 22nd Dec 2018, 02:12
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Morning all and the best of festive greetings to you all.

I fully intend to give you all a ripper of a laugh here today.

Iím a 29 year old train driver who wants to tick his ultimate bucket list item off and become RAAF aircrew in the form of an Ait Combat Officer. I few ďminorĒ obstacles that may prevent this. Hereís where Iím at:

I didnít do physics or 2 unit maths in High School. Thatís fixable by a TAFE course, not a huge barrier.

Second is that I wear glasses for a shocking astigmatism in my left eye. Also fixable by [email protected] surgery but might preclude me from passing an aircrew medical.

Third and probably most prohibitive I feel is Iíve been diagnosed as a very mild asthmatic for some years. If I was to apply, would I be wasting my time?

i guess the other big question is pursuing this stream of aircrew going to become redundant for those who want to fly considering the introduction of the F-35ís that will leave the Super Hornet ACOís needing redeployment to the P-8ís and Wedgetails?
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Old 26th Dec 2018, 03:26
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Originally Posted by Robertsmith39 View Post
I wear glasses for a shocking astigmatism in my left eye.
Laser only has a temporary "unfit for flying" period, which would mean you can get your TAFE course done while you sit out that waiting period.

Originally Posted by Robertsmith39 View Post
Third and probably most prohibitive I feel is Iíve been diagnosed as a very mild asthmatic for some years. If I was to apply, would I be wasting my time?
Asthma is a huge problem, and is going to be your biggest issue. If you declare it, it will likely mean you will be assessed as unfit for aircrew. Even non-specialist employment roles in the wider ADF require negative results to the "salt water test" and normal spirometry. Lung function is a key testing criteria for specialist medicals, so you can expect to be subject to this testing for any specialist role.

Lastly, I can't comment as to the employment roles in Air Force as that's not my bag.

Best, fs
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Old 1st Jan 2019, 02:41
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Let me chime in here.

Originally Posted by Robertsmith39 View Post
I didnít do physics or 2 unit maths in High School. Thatís fixable by a TAFE course, not a huge barrier.


Neither did I. This has never been mentioned nor raised in any way by DFR - and I am now past ASP, OSB and am waiting on a LOO for RAAF pilot. Caveat; I am 38 and hold two degrees; one Arts degree (useless!) and a Mechanical Engineering degree. Whether I have slipped through the cracks or if it is "waived" due to age and/or tertiary education, I am not sure.

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Originally Posted by Robertsmith39 View Post
Second is that I wear glasses for a shocking astigmatism in my left eye. Also fixable by [email protected] surgery but might preclude me from passing an aircrew medical.

Third and probably most prohibitive I feel is Iíve been diagnosed as a very mild asthmatic for some years. If I was to apply, would I be wasting my time?
I had corrective [email protected] surgery performed in mid-2016 due to being classed as Med 4 - unfit. At the time I did some inquiries, and PRK surgery was the only one accepted for any AIRCREW position. The ADF does accept other forms of [email protected] surgery for other non-aircrew roles however. This may or may not have changed since 2016.

Furthermore, with regards to your asthma, I had a guy going for pilot on my ASP who had asthma. I asked him about it and he got the doc to check him out and it was all good (at least at that point in time). DFR didn't seem overly concerned with it in his case. He was very early 20s and is now waiting for an OSB for RAN pilot. Take that with a grain of salt though, as everybody's experience with DFR and DFR Medical can differ.
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Old 12th Feb 2019, 05:47
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13Beast When you did your ASP, what recommendation did you get before going to OSB? As in "likelihood of getting an OSB offer?" Cheers and hope you get an offer soon.
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Old 14th Feb 2019, 22:14
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ASP and OSB done, now waiting on a LOO. I sent you a PM.
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Old 18th Feb 2019, 04:48
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Hey guys, I had my ASP last April. I decided to resit in a year and DFR just called me up saying that they got a call from ACMC stating that I had been essentially fast tracked to a March sitting instead of waiting for the full year to be completed this April, my EC said this was really weird and hasn't happened before. Would any of you guys have any ideas why they might do this? I don't have any special circumstances within April that would make them reconsider the 1 year rule.
Cheers.

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Old 18th Feb 2019, 22:12
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Maybe you aced all the tests? Certainly sounds good news - don’t second guess it, grab it by both horns and go for it! Good luck!
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Old 19th Feb 2019, 01:31
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Originally Posted by josephfeatherweight View Post
Maybe you aced all the tests? Certainly sounds good news - donít second guess it, grab it by both horns and go for it! Good luck!
Haha thanks man, definitely looking at it in a positive light!
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Old 21st Feb 2019, 11:19
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Today I received my official Letter of Offer for RAAF Pilot. I'm being appointed on April 5th, and will be in the April OTS. Stoked!!!

It's been a long road, I first applied for RAAF pilot in 2008. Persistence pays off in the end. Also, any older applicants reading this, I am 38 (turning 39 this year). So, clearly we are in for a chance just as much as the younger blokes.

If anyone else reading this thread is also due to start in the April RAAF OTS, let me know!
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Old 21st Feb 2019, 11:31
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Originally Posted by 13Beast View Post
Today I received my official Letter of Offer for RAAF Pilot. I'm being appointed on April 5th, and will be in the April OTS. Stoked!!!

It's been a long road, I first applied for RAAF pilot in 2008. Persistence pays off in the end. Also, any older applicants reading this, I am 38 (turning 39 this year). So, clearly we are in for a chance just as much as the younger blokes.

If anyone else reading this thread is also due to start in the April RAAF OTS, let me know!
Hi 13beast, congrats, huge achievment. There was a guy in my ASP who is mid 30s and is pushing hard to get in, unfortunately both of us missed out last year and I was hoping to run into him at my next asp (which will hopefully be late may) Unfortunately I think he has a few things to jump through before he can get there again though. However its great to know he has a real chance and age isn't a factor, the guy is hardcore committed. Out of curiosity how did you score? I got a low rec for both pilot and mission elementary last year and did not get an offer to proceed to OSB. Hoping to change that this year with some mad prep.
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Old 21st Feb 2019, 23:04
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Thanks Bordz. Keep at it, I think ASP a second time around would be easier...simply due to knowing what to expect to some extent.

I received a high rec, but on the lower end of a high rec. There are a few people on this forum who scored a bit higher and were into the RAAF a lot quicker than I was.

Good luck with your application and hope you get through!
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Old 28th Feb 2019, 11:23
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Too old?

I just attended a YOU session. I did well enough on the aptitude for Pilot jobs to appear on my JOR.

I'm 48 and 163cm tall, very fit. Just on the cutoff for both age and height. Does anyone think that it's worth my time applying for the pilot intake? I've done a few civilian flying lessons years ago and loved it, but time and money prevented going further at the time. Would kill for a chance to fly professionally.
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Old 28th Feb 2019, 23:08
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Don't worry about the height. You meet the minimum, that's all that is required. As for age, don't know. Apply and see what they say? You can always pull out if they offer you NAV or something else aside from PLT.

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Old 1st Mar 2019, 10:18
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Hi, have any of you found any practice material for the Situational awareness test or have any tips specifically for that test? Cheers.
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Old 2nd Mar 2019, 23:31
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Originally Posted by goatpaste View Post
I just attended a YOU session. I did well enough on the aptitude for Pilot jobs to appear on my JOR.

I'm 48 and 163cm tall, very fit. Just on the cutoff for both age and height. Does anyone think that it's worth my time applying for the pilot intake? I've done a few civilian flying lessons years ago and loved it, but time and money prevented going further at the time. Would kill for a chance to fly professionally.
just go for it, worst case is you don't make it.
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Old 4th Mar 2019, 20:49
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Wow well done Beast! What an awesome achievement mate. Do you have a preference to what aircraft type you'd like to go to?

Hearing your story has encouraged me to take the first steps in starting my journey in becoming a Pilot or ACO. I don't think it'll be an easy road, but at least if I have a go and fail a few times I can say that I tried.
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Old 4th Mar 2019, 21:00
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Beast, well done mate! There's hopes for old farts like myself yet. Do you have a type you're hoping to get streamed on to eventually?

Hearing your story has given me the kick up the arse I need to get my shit together and apply. I meet the education requirements after some further investigation so why not? Worst they can say is go away and improve yourself and come again.
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Old 6th Mar 2019, 10:41
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G'day all, Is there anyone on here that has experience with Service Transfer?

I'm currently in Army and would like to try for the ASP. I saw on Defence Jobs they've got both Army and Navy as priority for pilots. I'd even consider RAAF pilot as well if they're also expanding in that area due to the JSF?

Primary reason is basically I love the service life, I'd stay in forever if I could. Did civvie workforce before Army and that was a big bag of small D's. It's just that the role I'm in is going through changes and it's basically getting squeezed at the senior NCO level so future prospects of advancing my career are limited. I feel like I'd be more happier going for commission now and becoming an Officer. I've loved aircraft as a kid, took a few licks at the local airport to do some introductory flying over the years and I'm now at that stage of - F..k it let's do it, I don't want to say to myself on my death bed, 'would I have passed?'.

Thank you to everyone in this forum, lots of great information for aspiring candidates.
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