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RAAF Flight Screening Programme

Old 8th Jul 2018, 23:43
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Originally Posted by kukushka View Post
Well, everything has come around rather quickly for me. I've been lurking here for a while, since before I did my ASP. Now I'm heading off to Canberra in a few days for my OSB. Certainly is a lot of pressure but thanks to everyone for the words of wisdom, can't say I've always agreed with what some of you have to say but It's still nice to check this thread to stay updated.

Final push now - then the painful wait for an offer or the painful wait to try again a year later.

K
Good luck mate, hope you smash it and get an offer in the near future
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Old 9th Jul 2018, 00:03
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Originally Posted by 13Beast View Post
Good luck mate, hope you smash it and get an offer in the near future
As do I. If you haven't seen it already I'd recommend the following book: E-book - Pilots - ADF Mentors

It does cost about $50 but it's an invaluable resource. The bloke who runs it, Nick, is also pretty quick to get back to you with any help you need along the way too. Best of luck
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Old 9th Jul 2018, 00:23
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Hans, precisely the point. You air an opinion anywhere then you invite other opinions which maybe in disagreement with yours. And as it is an opinion it is biased. If your state something that is a fact it is not an opinionFacts and figures from DFR I would take with a huge grain of salt. Your quote that you achieved 76% by working out your score. This obviously did not come from ASP nor DFR.Your quote on “Many officers from East Sale suggested there was an 80% fail rate”. From my previous post you know my thoughts about “fail”. And suggested is not a fact. It is a fact that the RAF system has a 50% “makes the standard” rate. Your 80 % figure is more factual when you look at the 50% that do not display the appropriate potential and then the remaining number that will be looked at means that 80% of the people that do ASP will most likely be not looked at. Not 80% failed.

Happy landings.
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Old 9th Jul 2018, 01:42
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Hey finestkind,

You are right. The ASP results are a measure of potential. The higher you score, the less risk you impose on getting through the training successfully - or at least that's the intended effect.

However, there are 7 cognitive functions being tested. If you pass 6 of the functions scoring 100% but don't meet the required cut-off for just one function, you will not progress any further. Call it "fail" or "not pass", I don't mind.

Some people who do pass the ASP will not get an offer for the OSB. From what I have been told, it's a little harder to get your foot through the door at the moment due to the limited number of training aircraft right now. When the rest of the aircraft come through (due to be 49 in total) the recruitment numbers will rise and the scores for the ASP will be relaxed a little.

You can "fail" the test but if you pass it your score still acts in a similar way to an ATAR.
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Old 9th Jul 2018, 01:43
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It would be interesting to see how well the screening does, when it gets to numbers of students starting the course compared to the numbers finishing.

50 years ago when I joined the RAAF, there were about 400 applicants for each pilots course. Of those, 40 would be selected to start the course, and of those, around 20 would get their wings.

This is a success rate of 5% from the initial applicants, and 50% for those deemed to be "Meets Required Standard."

Does this more-thorough screening process increase the finishers:starters ratio?
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Old 9th Jul 2018, 02:08
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I have absolutely no idea. All I can say is that, from the research I have done, the ASP is supposed to be a better indicator of a candidate passing flight training.
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Old 9th Jul 2018, 06:47
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Hi AC.

The simple answer is yes.
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Old 10th Jul 2018, 03:01
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Originally Posted by tayra View Post
Looks like August intake offers are starting to go out. Good luck to those waiting by the (e)mailbox.
Thanks Tayra. Does anyone know how long it usually takes them to send all of the offers out?
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Old 10th Jul 2018, 18:47
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. I was surprised to be told there was only 10, yes 10, RAAF ADFA Pilot positions ope

I was reading a post from December 2017 which advised RAAF were offering 10 Male pilot positions at ADFA for 2018. Can someone verify if this was the case and if these numbers are indicative for the 2019 I take? Thanking contributors to help with option consideration.
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Old 10th Jul 2018, 19:37
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Apparently all of the RAAF ADFA Pilot positions have been selected and my nephew wasn’t one of them. I was surprised to be told there was only 10, yes 10, RAAF ADFA Pilot positions open for males. I don’t know how big the intakes are now, in my day there we’re around 30. So 20 females, 10 males. (From December 2017 post)

Apologies...I didn't attach post quote correctly above...am novice to forum. Just looking for clarification on Male/ Female pilot offers for RAAF via ADFA for 2019.

thanks all
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Old 11th Jul 2018, 01:52
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Originally Posted by EttaJames29 View Post
Thanks Tayra. Does anyone know how long it usually takes them to send all of the offers out?
Heard of some still going out today. I think it largely depends on how quickly your local DFR can process them as to when they go out. Fingers crossed for you!
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Old 11th Jul 2018, 06:09
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Well, finished my ADFA osb and received a recommendation for Pilot. Now the wait for the offers near the end of the year.
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Old 13th Jul 2018, 05:56
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Originally Posted by kukushka View Post
Well, finished my ADFA osb and received a recommendation for Pilot. Now the wait for the offers near the end of the year.

Hey well done mate, good to see people in this forum doing well. fingers crossed and good luck to you
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Old 19th Jul 2018, 01:54
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Aviation screening Program

Hey,
fairly new to this forum. Just wantting to have a chat with anyone whom has been able to pass the ASP, and if so what can one expext to see whilst beeing screened.
Cheers
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Old 19th Jul 2018, 11:33
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Hey mate,

I suggest you have a read back through the last couple of pages, there’s a wealth of good info in there about what to expect.
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Old 19th Jul 2018, 22:07
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Awesome, will do
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Old 19th Jul 2018, 22:14
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Hey Kukushka, seeing that you have completed both of your ASP and OSB, just wondering what should i expect to see at ASP with the computer tests.
Cheers
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Old 24th Jul 2018, 07:08
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Originally Posted by tayra View Post
Heard of some still going out today. I think it largely depends on how quickly your local DFR can process them as to when they go out. Fingers crossed for you!
Thank you. I finally got the call last Friday 😊
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Old 25th Jul 2018, 04:39
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Originally Posted by EttaJames29 View Post
Thank you. I finally got the call last Friday 😊
Well done
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Old 26th Jul 2018, 06:00
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Hey all,
Recently passed my ADFA assessment day and was recommended to attend the ASP. I was wondering how long the wait period between assessment day and ASP usually takes? Contacting my case manager is difficult as numerous calls and emails have gone through with no response.

On a good note, I received a call today from DFR asking whether I want to attend the ADFA open day (where all flights/travel are covered).

Any information regarding the time period between assessment day and ASP is greatly appreciated.

Thanks
Julian
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