Future Carrier (Including Costs)

[SASless]

A non-sheduled anchoring connotes a postponement I am thinking.

[langleybaston]

I am not a great fan of the new carriers but that is !!!! luck and I have every sympathy.

[zambonidriver]

Originally Posted by langleybaston

I am not a great fan of the new carriers but that is !!!! luck and I have every sympathy.

Is this just a matter of luck ??

[harrogate]

The Navy's other ship is gonna be busy.

[Mogwi]

Dodgy stern glands can be a bit of a bug pain!

Mog

[Fortyodd2]

Didn't HMS QE suffer the same early in her career??
2017 perhaps??

[RAFEngO74to09]

RN's Director of Force Generation - a previous Captain of HMS Queen Elizabeth and then Command UK Carrier Strike Group - all over the HMS Prince of Wales issue.

It will be a major embarrassment if the ship is unable to host the Atlantic Forum on board in New York 28-29 Sep.

Royal Navy on Twitter: "Rear Admiral Steve Moorhouse @smrmoorhouse updates on the situation with @HMSPWLS: “I’ve been to the ship today to see for myself what the issue is and how we in the Royal Navy can work together to make sure that the ship can successfully return to her tasking.” https://t.co/yU9ogHVQDt" / Twitter

[Biggus]

Beatty's famous (alleged) comment at the Battle of Jutland springs to mind!

[GeeRam]

There's a rumour she may soon go to a dry dock in Amsterdam as quicker and easier than going all the way up to Rosyth....?

[WE Branch Fanatic]

Just for perspective:

1. HMS Prince of Wales has deployed on NATO activities earlier this year:

HMS Prince of Wales returns from Spain after completing NATO mission - 24 June 2022

Royal Navy carriers ready for Arctic role after Prince of Wales’ High North operation - 20 April 2022

Royal Navy aircraft carrier takes centre stage at the heart of mighty naval task force - 15 March 2022

2. In 1982, HMS Invincible was on one shaft all the way down to Ascension Island due to a gearbox fault, until it was resolved by flying down a new part. In a real crisis Prince of Wales could deploy, but without both shafts she will not be able to attain full speed, which she will need for the intended SRVL trials.

[downsizer]

Just for perspective:

In the two years since commissioning it's spent 87 days at sea.

[SpazSinbad]

28 Aug 2022 HMS Prince of Wales suffers technical issue after sailing from Portsmouth https://www.navylookout.com/hms-prin...om-portsmouth/ "...wake visible in the photo, taken as she sailed [27 Aug 2022], appears to indicate only the port shaft turning..." https://www.navylookout.com/wp-conte...haft-issue.jpg

[SASless]

Let's hope there is an extended warranty in hand.

[SpazSinbad]

https://ukdefencejournal.org.uk/brit...m-for-repairs/ 30 Aug 2022 "...Multiple independent sources have told me that it is believed that the warship’s propellor hit something on the sea bed. “Either the propellor hit the floor or something on it. Definitely dry docking needed, and Amsterdam is being touted as an easier option than Rosyth.”...

[GeeRam]

Oh dear.....

Stories now in the press that its a shaft failure due to lack of lube.......

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...ase-propeller/

Someone is going to be in need of some lube if that is the case.....

[Not_a_boffin]

Originally Posted by GeeRam

Oh dear.....

Stories now in the press that its a shaft failure due to lack of lube.......

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/202...ase-propeller/

Someone is going to be in need of some lube if that is the case.....

Vanishingly unlikely that that is the cause.

[Ripton]

Originally Posted by SpazSinbad

28 Aug 2022 HMS Prince of Wales suffers technical issue after sailing from Portsmouth https://www.navylookout.com/hms-prin...om-portsmouth/ "...wake visible in the photo, taken as she sailed [27 Aug 2022], appears to indicate only the port shaft turning..." https://www.navylookout.com/wp-conte...haft-issue.jpg

More worryingly, it looks like the fibre optics and utilities companies have been busy on the flight deck...

[SASless]

Now just imagine if there were actual hostilities ongoing and suddenly half of your carrier fleet goes U/S and needs a period of repair and must retire from t he combat zone of operations to some friendly port with the adequate facilities.....like say the Persian Gulf Region.

Where would that be?

Eggs in one basket concept springs to mind.

[Bing]

Except there are two baskets.

[WE Branch Fanatic]

Originally Posted by downsizer

Just for perspective:

In the two years since commissioning it's spent 87 days at sea.

How did you work that out? To my simple mind, since commissioning she has does operational sea training (roughly four weeks which included the first foxed wing landing and launch), Exercise Joint Warrior late last year (two weeks), some flying training in January (a week), something like six weeks operating in the Norwegian Sea and the Arctic in March/April, and just over a month in the Mediterranean in May/June. How many days does that add up to?