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Joining Qatar airways (Master thread)-2

Old 1st Jun 2022, 04:37
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Should I leave my present job as 787 Captain to join QR?

After being furloughed since Jan 2020, I finally managed to gain employment in Jan 2022.
Pre-covid, I was working in China and was home based in Europe through a reverse roster. Salary then was quite good, average of 300k annual (80-90 block hours per month) after tax and good travel and medical benefits too.
Presently I work for an Asian private airline on the 787. Averaging 100k annual after tax. Travel and medical benefits and below standard, however working conditions are fine.
I am due to attend a QR interview in Doha in July. I can foresee having to fly quite a bit more than the 50 block hrs I am doing presently for 8.5k net. Working conditions where I am are very good.
My intention to join QR is for the better renumeration and travel and medical benefits compared to where I am working now.
Mi would appreciate anyones opinions. Thank you very much.
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Old 1st Jun 2022, 17:33
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Originally Posted by JON380 View Post
After being furloughed since Jan 2020, I finally managed to gain employment in Jan 2022.
Pre-covid, I was working in China and was home based in Europe through a reverse roster. Salary then was quite good, average of 300k annual (80-90 block hours per month) after tax and good travel and medical benefits too.
Presently I work for an Asian private airline on the 787. Averaging 100k annual after tax. Travel and medical benefits and below standard, however working conditions are fine.
I am due to attend a QR interview in Doha in July. I can foresee having to fly quite a bit more than the 50 block hrs I am doing presently for 8.5k net. Working conditions where I am are very good.
My intention to join QR is for the better renumeration and travel and medical benefits compared to where I am working now.
Mi would appreciate anyones opinions. Thank you very much.
Medical Benefits at QR are generally poor also, most of the treatments are difficult to get refunded. Healthcare at Qatar is rather poor also as they don't care about your health only about your wallet. Not uncommon to do multiple tests and get extensive boxes of medicine for a common cold...
Loss of licence does not exist in QR anymore.
Staff Travel works fine, you won't be able to use it a lot as you'll be working 110-140 block hours every month but it works with many destinations to go to. Working conditions poor, estimate of about 90% pilots wants to leave. Usa pilots pretty much all left. All south Americans have applied for green cards. Europeans looking to go back to their previous jobs at Ryanair etc...
​​​​​Airline turns into loco carrier with some meals being removed and asking staff to pay over 200 usd for mandatory suitcases.
I'd love to trade for your job!
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Old 2nd Jun 2022, 08:54
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Originally Posted by TheColonel View Post
Hey mate,

For what its worth I too had my joining date changed 3 times. Finally joined a month later than first joining date given. Relatively smooth sailing since. Hang in there - loads of guys joining in May - both fleets.

Good luck
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hey mate , I’m having the same issue regarding the delay in joining. Which fleet were you on ? No one is replying to emails . Whom were you in contact with during this delay phase ? Is there any way to communicate to them ? Any contact number ? Kindly pm
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Old 2nd Jun 2022, 14:11
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Any Airbus FO not actively flying (in 12 months) called for assessment?
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Old 2nd Jun 2022, 19:07
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Hi there,

Could you share any information on your assessment?
ATPL tech info, only if you have it, or can share.
How was your SIM? B787?
How did you feel you were treated?
Any advice really, will be appreciated lots.
I'm on email [email protected] if it's better.

Cheers, and good luck as you join

See you there
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Old 2nd Jun 2022, 19:12
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I'm in June
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Old 3rd Jun 2022, 11:30
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Originally Posted by Nachos View Post
Medical Benefits at QR are generally poor also, most of the treatments are difficult to get refunded. Healthcare at Qatar is rather poor also as they don't care about your health only about your wallet. Not uncommon to do multiple tests and get extensive boxes of medicine for a common cold...
Loss of licence does not exist in QR anymore.
Staff Travel works fine, you won't be able to use it a lot as you'll be working 110-140 block hours every month but it works with many destinations to go to. Working conditions poor, estimate of about 90% pilots wants to leave. Usa pilots pretty much all left. All south Americans have applied for green cards. Europeans looking to go back to their previous jobs at Ryanair etc...
​​​​​Airline turns into loco carrier with some meals being removed and asking staff to pay over 200 usd for mandatory suitcases.
I'd love to trade for your job!
Thank you Nachos. I am certain our industry will get back to its feet in a matter of months. I can already see if happening here in Asia. Salaries are also increasing though still around 30-50% below the pre-pandemic 2019 amounts.
I haven't yet made up my mind but I will surely attend the interview in Doha. Are you still with QR?
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Old 3rd Jun 2022, 14:44
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I'm 23/24 June

How about yourself?
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Old 4th Jun 2022, 12:56
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Originally Posted by Gerald Chiweshe View Post
I'm 23/24 June

How about yourself?
Hello Gerald, hope you're doing well. From where are you preparipreparin for assessment?
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Old 4th Jun 2022, 23:01
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Fatigue in QR? No, becouse of the ...statement!

Originally Posted by VelocityNeverExceed View Post
HAHAH so funny.
Bad guess. Qatar Airways make their own FTLs, they OWN the QCAA. They do whatever the f*ck to get what they need from you (blood and sweat). >1180 hours per year plus 200 hours of (unpaid) deadheading (also in economy) are REAL horrors. In your logbook it shows only around 700 hours due to their hour factorisation. Sleeping in the bunk doesn't count towards any block time.

READ before you apply (aka sell your soul). Otherwise you just deserve to bend over like one of their goats.

What fatigue???

Qatar nicely issued a "Statement on Pilot Fatigue Management"! :

http://www.qatarairways.com/en/press...Press-releases

- Fatigue reports are always treated extremely...

- Any pilot who reports experiencing fatigue is automatically removed from a flight and given a 24-hour rest...

- The Company has never refused to grant a pilot a rest period if they experience fatigue...

- Contrary to what has been stated, we welcome fatigue reports from pilots. We are acutely aware that cultivating an environment where employees feel able to raise important issues serves to ensure the continued wellbeing of our workforce, and the safety of our passengers.

- No pilot has been adversely impacted professionally following submitting a fatigue report...

- We are committed to ensuring our employees’ wellbeing and note that many former employees are returning to rejoin Qatar Airways in the coming months, including several hundred former Qatar Airways’ pilots...

Is this through?
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Old 5th Jun 2022, 19:49
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Originally Posted by 777B View Post
What fatigue???

Qatar nicely issued a "Statement on Pilot Fatigue Management"! :

http://www.qatarairways.com/en/press...Press-releases

- Fatigue reports are always treated extremely...

- Any pilot who reports experiencing fatigue is automatically removed from a flight and given a 24-hour rest...

- The Company has never refused to grant a pilot a rest period if they experience fatigue...

- Contrary to what has been stated, we welcome fatigue reports from pilots. We are acutely aware that cultivating an environment where employees feel able to raise important issues serves to ensure the continued wellbeing of our workforce, and the safety of our passengers.

- No pilot has been adversely impacted professionally following submitting a fatigue report...

- We are committed to ensuring our employees’ wellbeing and note that many former employees are returning to rejoin Qatar Airways in the coming months, including several hundred former Qatar Airways’ pilots...

Is this through?
They said fatigue doesn't exist, so then of course it doesn't exist. Was on the internet so it must be true.
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Old 6th Jun 2022, 02:56
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I've been reading a link that was shared from ATPL TV, but mostly Ace The Pilot Technical
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Old 6th Jun 2022, 06:17
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QR simply uses any and every means to squeeze the most out of any individual regardless if it is ethically wrong. They deserve every word of bad press.
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Old 6th Jun 2022, 08:36
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does anyone know if qatar hire pilot over 62 years old?



Originally Posted by B787skiper View Post
Are You guys type rated for 787/777 who have delayed joining?
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Old 6th Jun 2022, 08:40
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Hi. Anyone going for interviews coming up on 14/15 June?
Im supposed to be going, but with a week to go till departure, I still haven't heard anything from them.
Anyone else over this time?
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Old 6th Jun 2022, 13:33
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Anyone known the assessment situation now? I completed PSA 2 months ago. I would like to know how long for waiting or result. Thank you for all.
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Old 6th Jun 2022, 15:04
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Originally Posted by Gerald Chiweshe View Post
I've been reading a link that was shared from ATPL TV, but mostly Ace The Pilot Technical
hi Gerald,

pm me for more info,
i also have assessment on the 23 of june.
i could not send msg to you, because your inbox is full

Adwa
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Old 6th Jun 2022, 16:25
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Originally Posted by 777B View Post
What fatigue???

Qatar nicely issued a "Statement on Pilot Fatigue Management"! :

http://www.qatarairways.com/en/press...Press-releases

- Fatigue reports are always treated extremely...

- Any pilot who reports experiencing fatigue is automatically removed from a flight and given a 24-hour rest...

- The Company has never refused to grant a pilot a rest period if they experience fatigue...

- Contrary to what has been stated, we welcome fatigue reports from pilots. We are acutely aware that cultivating an environment where employees feel able to raise important issues serves to ensure the continued wellbeing of our workforce, and the safety of our passengers.

- No pilot has been adversely impacted professionally following submitting a fatigue report...

- We are committed to ensuring our employees’ wellbeing and note that many former employees are returning to rejoin Qatar Airways in the coming months, including several hundred former Qatar Airways’ pilots...

Is this through?
It would be rather stupid to admit that there is a problem. Qr's FTL are a joke since you log only half of the flight usually towards the limits. Some pilots flew up to 180 block hours a month. The Fatigue reporting has only been changed to 24h rest when these articles appeared before it was 12h. All pilots were informed that those who report fatigue will see their consecutive block of 4 off days removed and thus will not get any consecutive days off. F/O are also afraid to delay their command. Calling a few fatigue will result in visiting Fleet and Medical.
As a result everyone just flies dead tired.
​​The people raising fatigue issues in the medical department and frms have recently been removed. Problem solved.

​​​​​​It's just the tip of iceberg, join and find out how much more is there for yourself!
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Old 6th Jun 2022, 21:30
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Hi, does anyone have any information for the current A320 roster? Thank you for the help.

Rocky
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Old 7th Jun 2022, 20:42
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Originally Posted by ested View Post
Hi. Anyone going for interviews coming up on 14/15 June?
Im supposed to be going, but with a week to go till departure, I still haven't heard anything from them.
Anyone else over this time?
Hey man, how long did it take for you to get the result of PSA test? thank you
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