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EK to Decommission 50%+ of Airbus A380, Axe 1/2 of Pilots & Cabin Crew

Old 16th Aug 2020, 05:35
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“As fair as possible” is not synonymous with being fair at all, particularly at an airline like EK who we all know are experts at scheming and stealing from its employees to the greatest extent they can. They have no shame and the world really needs to be told about their behaviour and I don’t mean potential recruits but the public. It’s easy to substantiate most of the claims of unfair practices at EK so no one should have any hesitation broadcasting what this company is really like, behind their lucrative sports sponsorships and shiny TV adverts.... A bunch of corrupt people who have no regard whatsoever for the welfare of their staff. Sees its expat workforce like a collection of cleaning rags; when you have used it, through it in the bin! Shocking and shameful!
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Old 16th Aug 2020, 07:14
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well formula one isn’t Emirates anymore
it’s ARAMCO now
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Old 16th Aug 2020, 10:09
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https://gulfnews.com/uae/coronavirus...uae-1.71039899
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Old 16th Aug 2020, 10:57
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GH66 you are absolutely right, the world needs to be told of the appalling treatment of the employes. But watch this space, its coming. Some very embarrassing documents to be released to the press in the coming weeks. Airlines who treat their employees and the passengers with contempt must be named and shamed....
Watch this space.....
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Ha Ha Ha ! When reading fiction I prefer J.R.R Tolkien over the "Goof News" err... "Gulf News".

Q1. When finding any convenient excuse not to follow any law of the UAE, the employer may: (Pick one or more or all that apply from their perspective)

a) Claim that the law doesn't apply to them because they are a federal company.
b) Claim that the law doesn't apply to them because they are not a federal company.
c) Claim that the law doesn't apply to them because they are based in the free zone.
d) Claim that the law doesn't apply to them because they are partly based in the free zone.
e) Claim that the law doesn't apply to them because they are standing in the safety zone.
f) Claim that the law doesn't apply to them because these rules only apply between 0100 and 0101 and nobody is in the office then.
g) Claim that the law doesn't apply to them because: You're not getting your hair cut, you don't have to move your brother's clothes down to the lower peg. You simply collect his note before lunch, after you've done your scripture prep, when you've written your letter home, before rest, move your own clothes onto the lower peg, greet the visitors, and report to Mr. Viney that you've had your chit signed.
h) All of the above
i) Most of the above

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Old 16th Aug 2020, 12:53
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Originally Posted by jack schidt
“Pay peanuts, get Gibbons”, still makes me chuckle.

I remember the meeting with TCK and his Co-Op doing his last pilot face to face meeting. Those were they days when people had a vote, with their feet!
Yes, Jack, I remember seeing that variation on the old saying on this same forum, way back a long time ago. Someone had an excellent wit about him. I think it was after the joburg thing but could be wrong.
I remember that meeting, too. It was vicious and nasty and really highlighted the hatred of That Chap, Knowles, for the pilot body. Wasn't that the one that was ended early by a sulking AAR after half the audience left? Or have I mixed them all up over the years...
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I do love the irony of this
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I love his integrity and courtesy to address the current situation with his staff
and i am wondering if throws away Dollar notes as he does staff as both are important assets
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Old 16th Aug 2020, 17:58
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I guess the talking horse just left in time 🤣
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A walk down EK memory lane in this Simple Flying article by Chris Loh. Pictures posted in the link below.

The History Of Emirates’ Fleet
by Chris Loh

August 14, 2020

Over an extended period of time, many (but not all) airline fleets shift and evolve in an effort to adapt to changing aviation markets, while at the same time staying as efficient and modern as possible. It shouldn’t be a surprise that the Dubai-based Emirates wasn’t always an airline with only two types of aircraft. While it’s never been ultra-diverse, you might be surprised to discover some of the types it once operated.

The early years

In 1985, Emirates operated its flights from Dubai to Karachi (Pakistan) and Mumbai (India), using a Boeing 737 as well as an Airbus 300. These jets were actually wet-leased from Pakistan International Airlines (PIA). Additionally, the airline had two Boeing 727-200s, which came from the Dubai Royal Family.

In July of 1987, Emirates took delivery of its first owned aircraft as A6-EKA, an Airbus A310-304, which flew from Toulouse to Dubai. The airline would eventually take on a total of 14 A310s and seven A300s.

According to Airfleets.net, the lone 737 went back to PIA in 1987, while the 727s would leave the airline in the mid-1990s. These would be the only narrowbody aircraft that Emirates would operate as part of its mainline fleet (we’ll talk about its executive A319 later!).

Emirates, Aid Flights, Beirut

Going further with the twin-engine widebody

In 1992 Emirates placed an order for seven Boeing 777s with seven options. The airline says that this move signaled “a vote of confidence for the industry [that was] hard hit by the first Gulf War.” The earliest 777s would join the fleet around 1997, and deliveries would continue through the following decade. They would be a mix of -200s, -300s, and -300ERs.

Just a few years later, in 1999, the airline would take delivery of its first A330-200. The airline would take 29 of these over the years, with all of them leaving the fleet around 2015.

Emirates would go on to order many more 777s as the type would go on to become a core part of the fleet. Most of this news came in 2005 when it made history with an order for 42 Boeing 777s in a deal worth $9.7 billion ($12.87 billion in 2020). This was the largest-ever 777 order at the time. Today, Emirates is the world’s biggest operator of 777 aircraft. The airline now operates 142 of the type – which mainly consists of -300ERs but also includes some -200LRs.

The introduction of quadjets

Emirates received its first A340-500 in 2003. This was to be the first of 10 to fly for the airline. It also leased eight A340-300s. Its last A340 was finally retired in 2016, taking its last flight from Kabul to Dubai.

Of course, Emirates’ most substantial quadjet investment would be in the Airbus A380. In 2000, the airline became the first to sign up for the superjumbo, ordering seven with options for five more at the Farnborough Air Show.

The earliest of the A380s were delivered in 2008, and Emirates has been steadily taking delivery of the jet ever since. It now has a total of 115 with eight more on the way. However, rumors have been circulating that some of these may be canceled.

The carrier’s A380s are further divided into three different configurations:

A three-class long-range (517 passengers)
Three-class ultra-long-range (489 passengers)
And a high-density two-class long-range (615 passengers)

Emirates is widely considered responsible for keeping the less-than-popular program alive. Emirates’ decision to cancel orders in 2019 while showing little interest in updated variants led to Airbus shutting down A380 production. This will take place once the final aircraft are delivered in the next year.

We should note that Emirates’ cargo wing, SkyCargo does operate the 747. However, the Queen of the Skies has never been part of its mainline passenger fleet.

Looking to a more diverse future

Perhaps realizing the lack of flexibility of its two-type fleet strategy, Emirates is looking to have a more varied fleet in the future. In the next decade, it seems like the carrier will be operating as many as five different types at the same time:

Boeing 787
Boeing 777 (both old and new variants)
Airbus A350
Airbus A330neo
Airbus A380

In 2013, Emirates announced a landmark order for 150 Boeing 777X aircraft valued at $76 billion ($83 billion in 2020), with additional 50 purchase rights. The Dubai-based carrier wanted to obtain 35 Boeing 777-8s and 115 Boeing 777-9s.

Emirates-777x-deliveries-2022

However, six years later, Emirates would reduce its order for the delayed 777X by 24 planes to 126, swapping them for 30 787 Dreamliner jets valued at $8.8 billion at list prices.

Emirates’ decision to cut A380 orders in 2019 wasn’t a cancelation as much as it was a swap. In fact, the aircraft swap is comprised of 40 A330-900s and 30 A350-900 aircraft. This came at a list price of US$ 21.4 billion.

When we first reported on this Airbus swap, the A330s were to be delivered in 2021, with the A350s following in 2024. It’s unknown if current global events will change any of these plans in the short term.

On the Boeing side, Emirates was supposed to start taking delivery of its massive 777X order in 2020. However, program delays pushed this back to 2021. Now, further delays mean that the carrier won’t get its first 777X until 2022.

Emirates’ tiny A319 footnote

If we want to be thorough, we have to mention the single Airbus A319. Launched in 2013, Emirates makes the aircraft available for VIPs, organizations, and other uses for high wealth individuals who want the full Emirates experience without actually flying commercial.
https://simpleflying.com/emirates-fleet-history/amp/
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Old 17th Aug 2020, 13:24
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I do love the picture of Ahmed bin Saeed as shown above. His statements are about as hollow as EK Contracts.....


There seems to be a long standing thread here.......

Would one of you still at EK (and if the pics are still up) kindly post Timi's statement(s) about safety and how it is everyone's responsibility.

The treatment of staff and others at EK is beyond appalling and deserves to be highlighted.

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Old 17th Aug 2020, 14:10
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Let’s finish the sentence

“I am remainder that no matter how many millions we invest in the latest equipment,
the biggest asset we have will always be our staff,......”
after me
after my management
after any useless airplane
after all belongings to dubai
after every single habibi friend

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Old 17th Aug 2020, 14:15
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appetently somebody had to pay for his frustration - it not his fault and as family can’t be wrong it must be a very important asset
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Old 18th Aug 2020, 06:02
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omg emirates might get their widdle feelings hurt......2 posts each for you and roca, and your white knights for the "feelings brigade" deal buttercup
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Old 18th Aug 2020, 13:14
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For many of us the prospect of having to leave the UAE would be a sad day, for myself back to the UK depressing as hell.

....My, my, my.... The prospects of leaving the UAE would be a sad day???? WTF.... Where in the U.K. do you come from mate? Comments like that makes one wonder 🤦‍♂️ Enjoy your “life” in xxxxx....
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Old 18th Aug 2020, 14:16
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Who ever you are your here for a reason and to achieve a goal, financial, career, adventure or whatever. If that is snatched away from you of course you are sad. It’s not the return to the U.K. that’s making you sad.
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Old 18th Aug 2020, 14:23
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Fired600, that was a reply to post 861 (Quote)
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Old 22nd Aug 2020, 08:37
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what documents are you referencing about

Originally Posted by SirTimAlRedha
GH66 you are absolutely right, the world needs to be told of the appalling treatment of the employes. But watch this space, its coming. Some very embarrassing documents to be released to the press in the coming weeks. Airlines who treat their employees and the passengers with contempt must be named and shamed....
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My very good Friend who is a Purser just had her contract “not extended”. Just so happens she is pregnant, too. Unbelievable.
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Old 22nd Aug 2020, 19:27
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she is not alone
thats the new thing - they haven’t renewed a lot of contracts right now - apparently to save a few bucks being not required to pay full salary for the notice month and apartment needs to be returned - excellent managed
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