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EchoKilla 17th May 2020 08:28

EK to Decommission 50%+ of Airbus A380, Axe 1/2 of Pilots & Cabin Crew
 
Rumour mill:
https://www.paddleyourownkanoo.com/2...ew-and-pilots/

Edited so that I don’t sound so alarmist - for our discussion and possibly true. I would ignore the numbers

GKOC41 17th May 2020 09:11

Ben on the rumour mill sometime.

Capn Rex Havoc 17th May 2020 09:37

ECHOKILLER - Piss poor tasteless stressful factually devoid alarmist post. Why don't you be a good boy/girl and remove it.

The author is sooooooo full of credibility. Not



Mateusz Maszczynski is a serving international flight attendant with experience at a major Middle East and European airline. Mateusz is passionate about the aviation industry and helping aspiring flight attendants achieve their dreams. Cabin crew recruitment can be tough, ultra-competitive and just a little bit confusing - Mateusz has been there and done that. He's got the low down on what really works.

roca 17th May 2020 11:31

What can you expect
 
Honestly what do you expect; he is of the same group always posting bs against the company. And now just trying to create more havoc with such an infectious post. As all those idiots who claim they are happier since they left but they still have to keep logging into this forum to trash anyone who says something favorable pf the company or that other group that bi..ch incessantly about how unhappy they are here and how miserable is the company but don't have the cojones to say the same things during the washups or even leave the company

PanAmFalcon 17th May 2020 11:47

The 380s would probably be stored away for a year or so. Nothing concrete yet

DuneMentat 17th May 2020 11:57

Whether we like it or not, there's going to be a sizable reduction in number of aircraft and crew for the foreseeable future. If it's 20, 30, 40 or 50% remains to be seen but I would not be surprised if the numbers quoted in the article turns out to be pretty spot on

atakacs 17th May 2020 12:00

I guess anyone with half a brain should see it. TBH 30% workforce reduction would be a best-case scenario IMHO.

SOPS 17th May 2020 12:30

Letís say ( and nothing has been announced) .. best case 2O percent .. worst case 50 percent. This will rip through the whole economy of Dubai.


Pilots who are retrenched that own their own homes.. who will they sell them to? Iím guessing there is not a big demand at the moment. Likewise cars .. you have to leave .. any market for your car?


i have no idea of the figures.. but Iím guessing EK pilots and cabin crew spend a lot of money in Dubai. Remove 50 percent of them ( worst case).. thatís going to hurt.

If this happens. It wonít be pretty.

Good luck to all

mbr136 17th May 2020 13:51

Hopefully all that does not come to a reality. Too many families will be affected. For the time being is one of the very few companies (if not the only one) that is holding thousands of people with part of the salary, at home without working, or not doing much. In many other companies you would be fired in no time, as already happened.
Lets hope that all that does not happen.

White Knight 17th May 2020 15:48

Paddleyourcanoe? Sister publication of the National Enquirer???


FlyingAce77 17th May 2020 15:48


Originally Posted by atakacs (Post 10784945)
I guess anyone with half a brain should see it. TBH 30% workforce reduction would be a best-case scenario IMHO.

I totally agree with you on this, letís just ignore the Article but common sense says If even A380s are grounded for a year, CC & deck crew wonít be getting paid sitting at home, atleast reduction in headcount would be necessary.

White Knight 17th May 2020 15:50

On another note; this would be a perfect time to start job share for those guys/gals that are interested. Reduces the overheads but keeps people employed which as SOPS alludes to is what Dubai Inc. needs. I'm sure many options and scenarios are being discussed!

EchoKilla 17th May 2020 16:14

fyi I’m still there as well. This is a rumour forum....

FlyingAce77 17th May 2020 17:02

This is what Bloomberg is Reporting

https://t.co/a0rymYomLX?amp=1

den3aah 17th May 2020 17:34

As expected, it turned out to be a rumour...
Official Response from the Dubai government:

Emirates spokesperson: “No announcement has been made regarding mass redundancies at the airline. Any such decision will be communicated in an appropriate fashion. Like any responsible business would do, our executive team has directed all departments to conduct a thorough review of costs and resourcing against business projections, even as we prepare for gradual service resumption. As our Chairman has said, conserving cash, safeguarding our business, and preserving as much of as our skilled workforce as possible, remain our top priorities through this period.”

Econ101 17th May 2020 18:32


Originally Posted by den3aah (Post 10785190)
As expected, it turned out to be a rumour...
Official Response from the Dubai government:

Den3aah, please note there was no denial.

Emirates spokesperson: ďNo announcement has been made regarding mass redundancies at the airline. Any such decision will be communicated in an appropriate fashion.

Correct, no official announcement has been made "yet". Article states EK is drawing up plans to scrap some 380s. I would hope so, to ensure the future economic viability of the airline - it is prudent to reduce 380 numbers.

As airframes disappear, the natural consequence will be flight deck and cabincrew redundancies.

If you didn't see this coming or prefer denial and to hide your head in the sand, good luck to you.

den3aah 17th May 2020 18:53

I would much prefer to hear it from the source.... The original rumour is dubious and comes from a shoddy website that claims to be legitimate (posted by a flight attendant apparently?). There is no doubt that every airline on earth is going to review their operations and their workforce; EK isn't immune to this. I am interested to see if they actually scrap A380's or store them bearing in mind that they were hoping to use them til 2030? Let's not forget that they are expecting a huge 777-X order next year so getting rid of 30% of their workforce now might be drastic if you look at costs involved in hiring new cabin crew in the future and training them etc ....
Just thinking out loud .... I wish them the best of luck!

White Knight 17th May 2020 19:52


Originally Posted by FlyingAce77
This is what Bloomberg is Reporting

https://t.co/a0rymYomLX?amp=1

Total cods. Firstly there aren't 105,000 employees! Try 63,000 EK/DNATA bods...

EchoKilla 17th May 2020 19:54

the original article might be from a shoddy source but Bloomberg isn’t shoddy. And EK isn’t denying anything. Anyone with common sense knows there will be cuts coming no matter what - it’s sad but true. 30,000 from Bloomberg wasn’t just made up - 100% internal discussions are happening - and it’s Emirates Group not just the airline. Expect a delay on the 777x delivery... that’s also common sense.

fatbus 17th May 2020 22:12

Airline @63K Group @103K

380 original order was 5 then 55 then 90 then 120? Then 140? . Maybe back to the 55 plan .

777X standby for order adjustments /delays . Huge disaster for Dubai , pending bailout from Abu Dhabi.


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