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EK to Decommission 50%+ of Airbus A380, Axe 1/2 of Pilots & Cabin Crew

Old 8th Jul 2020, 15:36
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Originally Posted by VThokie2
Something tells me Jet II hasn’t dipped his toe in the sandbox yet!
Is 8 years with EY and EK enough?
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well said
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Old 8th Jul 2020, 15:49
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Prior to the Covid-19 downturn, indications were that STC had committed to far big an order for A380 behemoth aircraft, yet was vocal in castigating anyone who questioned his strategy. It was not a question of wrong place/wrong time but an unforgivable blunder for which his workforce are now paying for. He has no credibility left & his legacy at Emirates will be tarnished by his intransigence in the face of an industry who were widely in disagreement with his strategy for air traffic domination. I feel desperately sorry that so many good employees are once again today paying with their livelihoods for his irresponsible gamble.
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Old 8th Jul 2020, 16:05
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Originally Posted by Jet II
Is 8 years with EY and EK enough?
I guess not enough to realize that EK QOL (if you call it that) is not that attractive, the lucky ones escaped back to those LoCos you speak of. Some are just still blinded by shiney big jet syndrome, you know those people who define themselves by the seat they sit in and the plane they fly (This can be evidenced by the majority of photos they have is in uniform or in front of their current aircraft), calling on company frequency affixing ďsuperĒ to their callsign when calling for a cabin engineer! Yet others have internalized the EGHQ propaganda that they are the best of the best because they were selected by EK. Ironic because if that were true they would treat you with much more respect! The size of the plane and the exotic layovers are meaningless... itís all about being at a company that at least pretends to care about you, has stability, protections, schedule flexibility/transparency, a good life/work balance... all things EK does not offer. It speaks volumes when they increased the training bond from 3 to 5 yrs, then imposed a training bond for upgrade. A reputable airline would have no such need as they would make sure there would be no reason to leave.

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Old 8th Jul 2020, 16:30
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So. More letters. Another 600 Airbus Pilots. 1200 out of 1930 sacked. Including 8 out of 10 of the highest seniority numbers. Sickness. Lots of kids at school seem to be triggers. Everyone expects job losses but Clark and Co have reached a new low today.


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Old 8th Jul 2020, 16:57
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fantastic to see how they abuse the contractual benefits to make u redundant - it stinks big time
not only that there is no empathy or loyalty which was widely known but blaming you for using a contractual right - it explains what the value of the best is - that even beats the new low - this is a new definition of disgusting
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Old 8th Jul 2020, 17:39
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Seems odd that the ruler of Dubai hasnít put a block on this. The money circle after all needs to stay in Dubai to make his whole project viable. With a downsizing of this magnitude thereís just no way he can get the tourists and business out to Dubai to spend their money on the malls and hotels. There will be cars, houses, apartments all sitting empty and turning back to sand for a significant number of years. If heíd propped up EK then at least the money would slosh around in the local economy rather than thousands leaving the country.
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Old 8th Jul 2020, 17:45
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How about shrinking EK and the unmentionable for a little M&A in the near future?..
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Old 8th Jul 2020, 17:57
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is this 800 pilots confirmed or 800 staff in various ranks it seems as well. you are correct - numerous office staff were also let go

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By email.. or a meeting?

It seems the post I was quoting has been deleted.

Iím now getting messages from friends.. confirming very senior people in EK have been sacked today.
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Old 8th Jul 2020, 18:01
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840 Flight Deck Crew. Confirmed through various sources. Lots of cabin crew. No clue on numbers. A terrible day. Look at the personal wealth of Ahmed Bin Saeed. His dad was ruler. Propping up EK would have cost him pennies. Tragic
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Old 8th Jul 2020, 19:02
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Are they being summoned to the Training College tomorrow? I wonder if anyone beyond middle management will have the decency to be present and attempt to show some empathy.

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Old 8th Jul 2020, 19:07
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Am not sure it's that high a number. I don't think any 777 pilots, apart from ground instructors received the letter. Anyone know different?
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Old 8th Jul 2020, 19:31
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is this 800 pilots confirmed or 800 staff in various ranks it seems as well. you are correct - numerous office staff were also let go
You guys think it is only pilots and cabin crew? Think again. Dnata is letting staff go left,right and center.
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Old 8th Jul 2020, 19:32
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I hope Iím wrong Don and defer to your knowledge. I spoke to three people today. Utterly horrified especially for the Captain who lost his daughter. Another one who did all the exhibition flying too. The number was 600 Airbus and another UAE National source told me 840. Itís terrible news. One of my friends was in tears. He has to remove his kids from JESS. The kids cried all day. The viciousness of AAA, AAR, and Ahmed Bin Saeed knows no bounds. Incidentally, Ahmed the Coward cancelled his interview for tomorrow with Bloomberg. Strange that...
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indeed, this sums it up...”root cause”, straight from the training sylabus...
Oh yeah, did someone take notice they hedged fuel last year at $55 for more than half the volume for the next 2 years, while crude’s at $40...
Another blunder on the 9th floor which we all slaves now pay cash....
Does anyone remember CM? He made a plan for a total turnaround 3 years back...But he was bullied away by TC...Now where do tey stand.....
Ten thousands (no typo) have been made redundant in Dnata and EK over the past few weeks...
This will not end well......And the impact on Dubai...”nothing to see here, move on..Expo coming...all good”....


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I hope Iím wrong Don and defer to your knowledge. I spoke to three people today. Utterly horrified especially for the Captain who lost his daughter. Another one who did all the exhibition flying too. The number was 600 Airbus and another UAE National source told me 840. Itís terrible news. One of my friends was in tears. He has to remove his kids from JESS. The kids cried all day. The viciousness of AAA, AAR, and Ahmed Bin Saeed knows no bounds. Incidentally, Ahmed the Coward cancelled his interview for tomorrow with Bloomberg. Strange that...
Unfortunately I can't be sure. But haven't heard of any 777 pilots apart from the ground instructors. I am sure someone will set that straight if wrong. I totally agree with everything you say. All departments are being decimated at the moment. Many friends have been caught up in this, and it's heartbreaking. Those clowns in the suits that call themselves management have proven to be without testicles.
The letters aren't a reflection on how the person did their job. They are just the badge of being collateral damage, of a soulless company which is reinventing itself. It's a shame the rebirth is under such a dark and foreboding cloud
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More rumors of 700+ this coming Sunday, mostly A380.

250 Trainers to remain, as they can fly both seats.

The majority remaining to be locals.

Only 30 A380s total to stay.

Looks like Emiratization is in full effect - much like SAUDIA.
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Not even anything more than a totally impersonal email, destroying your life. A total disgrace, anyone here remaining take heed. You are nothing but a number, you have no value, your loyalty will not be rewarded. You might still be here today, but tomorrow, next week, next month, next year? Who knows for whom the bell tolls next.

Management and leadership are conspicuous in their absence. Safety is but a word in a dictionary.
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Originally Posted by shukran
More rumors of 700+ this coming Sunday, mostly A380.

250 Trainers to remain, as they can fly both seats.

The majority remaining to be locals.

Only 30 A380s total to stay.

Looks like Emiratization is in full effect - much like SAUDIA.
Soon we may expect the same operational level of saudia then...
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Everyone has a rumour and everything thinks they have the gen, fact is no one ever knows all the facts . All I can say is first wave I knew 4-5 TREs (380)+@20 line guys, second wave 15+TREs(380) +@ 10 line guys (380) with numbers increasing hourly . No rationale behind the selection. EK/ME reputation, if they ever did have one, is gone !Period!
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