EK: Enough is Enough
Joined: Apr 2005
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From: Desert
Not a millenial by any measure but just sick and tired of the crap EK gives us and expects us to take it.
Who would join this mad house? A truly sick person.
Happy Easter and hopefully we will all rise out of here very soon.
Who would join this mad house? A truly sick person.
Happy Easter and hopefully we will all rise out of here very soon.
Joined: Feb 2017
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From: Germany
Joined: May 2003
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From: Arakis
My two fills worth
Guys and girls I think you need to try to read the writing on the wall.
They want you to go so that it will reduce the wage bill. Then they will hire fresh cheap guys who are desperate to fly bigger shinier jets if they manage to get any takers. All the carriers work like this. With no relief in sight for economic downturn and war monger ING going around the world I don't think things going to get better.
Also once they have reduced the numbers to half the size people planes whatever else then they will merge north and south.
My advice would be to leave while you have the ability to do so and it's your decision before the proverbial hits the fan. Better to do it this way then to let them make your life a misery which it seems they are doing very well.
They want you to go so that it will reduce the wage bill. Then they will hire fresh cheap guys who are desperate to fly bigger shinier jets if they manage to get any takers. All the carriers work like this. With no relief in sight for economic downturn and war monger ING going around the world I don't think things going to get better.
Also once they have reduced the numbers to half the size people planes whatever else then they will merge north and south.
My advice would be to leave while you have the ability to do so and it's your decision before the proverbial hits the fan. Better to do it this way then to let them make your life a misery which it seems they are doing very well.
Joined: Aug 2007
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From: Standby, Resyncing other FMC...
2005 (12 years ago) one of the guys in this thread wrote:
"We will always be treated no bettter that an Indian to mangement and it is time we start going to greener pastures. I have had it."
The question is.... is it as bad as you say? If so, how come you've stayed here so long? Not a "if you don't like it leave" but seriously... if it was that bad in 2005.. you should have been out of Dubai by now?
"We will always be treated no bettter that an Indian to mangement and it is time we start going to greener pastures. I have had it."
The question is.... is it as bad as you say? If so, how come you've stayed here so long? Not a "if you don't like it leave" but seriously... if it was that bad in 2005.. you should have been out of Dubai by now?
Joined: Sep 2015
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From: Stuttgart
A6EEU
as i said u are proberly one of the lucky ones getting his upgrade in 4 years´, overtaking all the more senior FO from 330/340 and does not have to fly tractor roasters. I totally understand u that u are happy. I wish i could be on the same page and see only the good thing, but the broomstick hit me already to many times to say things are fine and ok! - and that is valid (unfortunately) for the majority of pilots here.
regards
as i said u are proberly one of the lucky ones getting his upgrade in 4 years´, overtaking all the more senior FO from 330/340 and does not have to fly tractor roasters. I totally understand u that u are happy. I wish i could be on the same page and see only the good thing, but the broomstick hit me already to many times to say things are fine and ok! - and that is valid (unfortunately) for the majority of pilots here.
regards
Joined: Mar 2009
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From: Top of the World
How about the ASR last month where the Captain kicked out the supernumerary crew girl before take-off on her first flight due to her asking questions...
He asked why we should have supernumerary crew in a 'critical' phase.
He then commented that she didn't come back during the cruise to finish asking her questions.
Well of course she didn't! I can imagine!
How miserable can you get? Truly embarrassing to read - Was probably one of you lot.
He asked why we should have supernumerary crew in a 'critical' phase.
He then commented that she didn't come back during the cruise to finish asking her questions.
Well of course she didn't! I can imagine!
How miserable can you get? Truly embarrassing to read - Was probably one of you lot.
Joined: Oct 2015
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From: Midlands
Have to say, since leaving the one thing I do miss is the ASR summary. Always provided a chuckle in dark times.
Some memorable ones - the 'major threat arising from the use of the silver napkin holders', the regular 'I was almost unstable but I wasn't', and the legendary 'wake turbulence encounter on approach - probably from preceding aircraft' (as opposed to the aircraft behind or a giant seagull?)
Some memorable ones - the 'major threat arising from the use of the silver napkin holders', the regular 'I was almost unstable but I wasn't', and the legendary 'wake turbulence encounter on approach - probably from preceding aircraft' (as opposed to the aircraft behind or a giant seagull?)
Joined: Oct 2015
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From: Midlands
I agree it is embarrassing. It's the minority not the majority though, and probably also a result of venting frustration about the bigger issues that can't be controlled.
Joined: Feb 2009
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From: In a pipe in the upstairs water closet
Or alternatively, 'I'm a new Captain and I'm just covering my arse by filling out an ASR and will stop filling out ridiculous ASRs when management start operating with a just culture.'
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