EK: Enough is Enough
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From: >FL310
Speed...there a many a "dead" body along the trail you prescribe. As those who, on the third floor attempt to do, have found out and moved on, given up and disappear back on the line or cooperate to graduate. Also the Stockholm Syndrome can come into play. I know of NO one in the past decade that has made any significant change to flight ops other than MM in training. And his hands are tied in many areas. It's a lose lose situation for one who attempts change here. Only market forces will affect a positive change for us.
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From: Terra Firma
Speed...there a many a "dead" body along the trail you prescribe. As those who, on the third floor attempt to do, have found out and moved on, given up and disappear back on the line or cooperate to graduate. Also the Stockholm Syndrome can come into play. I know of NO one in the past decade that has made any significant change to flight ops other than MM in training. And his hands are tied in many areas. It's a lose lose situation for one who attempts change here. Only market forces will affect a positive change for us.
The main positive view is that the next day IS a day closer to going home, that's how to stay focussed and content here.
Jack
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From: Dubai
It's simple.
It's simple: the rot is a result of the pure greed of management. What else needs to be said?
The answer: As in most civilised countries: take care of your employees and they'll take care of you.
The answer: As in most civilised countries: take care of your employees and they'll take care of you.
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From: Neverland
So here ya go
GoJet, a US Regional, currently has 5, yes 5 ex EK Captains going through new hire training. So whether or not you believe the stories on how bad it is at EK and whether or not you think the EK pilots complain too much. At least 5 were willing to give up the left seat at EK to go back to regional flying.
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From: Earth
Good on them I say, best feeling in the world stepping off that sweet bird of freedom as you reach your destination..in my case I rather stumbled as I consumed as much booze as I could.
The mericans I knew at EK tended to fall into 2 distinct categories, they were either planning to leave, or were leaving.
Not sure if I'd jump for a CRJ job, but home is home and I guess they can return to the land of "passin 18.5 climbin 35 ohhhh" and enjoy good BBQ pork sandwiches ��
The mericans I knew at EK tended to fall into 2 distinct categories, they were either planning to leave, or were leaving.
Not sure if I'd jump for a CRJ job, but home is home and I guess they can return to the land of "passin 18.5 climbin 35 ohhhh" and enjoy good BBQ pork sandwiches ��
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From: Been around the block
GoJet, a US Regional, currently has 5, yes 5 ex EK Captains going through new hire training. So whether or not you believe the stories on how bad it is at EK and whether or not you think the EK pilots complain too much. At least 5 were willing to give up the left seat at EK to go back to regional flying.
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From: Dubai
That's completely inaccurate. The US isn't a bit skittish, they are taking a lot of EK guys. Even the "Big 3" are taking EK guys despite the campaign against EK. The only carrier that I have heard that hasn't taken EK guys is FedEx, and I can only assume that's based on their 5 year rule of living in the US. UPS doesn't have that and is taken EK pilots, United, American, Delta all have hired EK pilots in the last 12 months. Southwest has taken a lot of EK guys. I haven't heard about JetBlue in fairness taking any EK pilots.
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From: Germany
That's completely inaccurate. The US isn't a bit skittish, they are taking a lot of EK guys. Even the "Big 3" are taking EK guys despite the campaign against EK. The only carrier that I have heard that hasn't taken EK guys is FedEx, and I can only assume that's based on their 5 year rule of living in the US. UPS doesn't have that and is taken EK pilots, United, American, Delta all have hired EK pilots in the last 12 months. Southwest has taken a lot of EK guys. I haven't heard about JetBlue in fairness taking any EK pilots.
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From: Germany
GoJet, a US Regional, currently has 5, yes 5 ex EK Captains going through new hire training. So whether or not you believe the stories on how bad it is at EK and whether or not you think the EK pilots complain too much. At least 5 were willing to give up the left seat at EK to go back to regional flying.