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EK: Enough is Enough

Old 24th Apr 2017, 01:35
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What is he is saying is EK sucks and you better be completely desperate or have no brain to join now.
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Old 24th Apr 2017, 14:31
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Speed...there a many a "dead" body along the trail you prescribe. As those who, on the third floor attempt to do, have found out and moved on, given up and disappear back on the line or cooperate to graduate. Also the Stockholm Syndrome can come into play. I know of NO one in the past decade that has made any significant change to flight ops other than MM in training. And his hands are tied in many areas. It's a lose lose situation for one who attempts change here. Only market forces will affect a positive change for us.
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Old 24th Apr 2017, 16:05
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Originally Posted by TangoUniform
Speed...there a many a "dead" body along the trail you prescribe. As those who, on the third floor attempt to do, have found out and moved on, given up and disappear back on the line or cooperate to graduate. Also the Stockholm Syndrome can come into play. I know of NO one in the past decade that has made any significant change to flight ops other than MM in training. And his hands are tied in many areas. It's a lose lose situation for one who attempts change here. Only market forces will affect a positive change for us.

The main positive view is that the next day IS a day closer to going home, that's how to stay focussed and content here.

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Old 24th Apr 2017, 17:44
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Thats it. Next year is cut off. Just gonna try to make as much money as possible,but I am done. Heading for the exit door.
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Old 24th Apr 2017, 19:17
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There is any form of training bond or you can leave after 6 months if you don't like it?
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Old 24th Apr 2017, 20:40
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It's simple.

It's simple: the rot is a result of the pure greed of management. What else needs to be said?
The answer: As in most civilised countries: take care of your employees and they'll take care of you.
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Old 24th Apr 2017, 21:14
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Originally Posted by arvida
There is any form of training bond or you can leave after 6 months if you don't like it?
5 year bond at $48.000 if memory serves me right.
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Old 24th Apr 2017, 22:48
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5 year bond at $48.000 if memory serves me right.
5 years after FLC, so about 5 1/2 years bond for the joining junior regional TP f`ooh
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Old 28th Apr 2017, 03:07
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So here ya go

GoJet, a US Regional, currently has 5, yes 5 ex EK Captains going through new hire training. So whether or not you believe the stories on how bad it is at EK and whether or not you think the EK pilots complain too much. At least 5 were willing to give up the left seat at EK to go back to regional flying.
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Old 28th Apr 2017, 19:54
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120feet,


Correct! A friend of mine is in that class also.................... He said the ex-EK Captains are great, but left EK as they were fed up!
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Old 28th Apr 2017, 20:48
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Good for them !!!
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Old 28th Apr 2017, 20:49
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Now , who cares ?
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Old 28th Apr 2017, 20:55
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120ft,

Are the EK pilots at least entering GoJet as DECs ? I think I remember that GoJet takes DECs ?
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Old 28th Apr 2017, 21:06
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fatbus,
trying to contribute something useful over here, or simply trying to get your number if posts up?
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Old 29th Apr 2017, 06:09
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Good on them I say, best feeling in the world stepping off that sweet bird of freedom as you reach your destination..in my case I rather stumbled as I consumed as much booze as I could.
The mericans I knew at EK tended to fall into 2 distinct categories, they were either planning to leave, or were leaving.
Not sure if I'd jump for a CRJ job, but home is home and I guess they can return to the land of "passin 18.5 climbin 35 ohhhh" and enjoy good BBQ pork sandwiches ��
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Old 29th Apr 2017, 17:15
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Passin 18.5 climbing 35ohhh,
See ya. ( Thankfully)
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Old 29th Apr 2017, 18:33
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Originally Posted by 120feet
GoJet, a US Regional, currently has 5, yes 5 ex EK Captains going through new hire training. So whether or not you believe the stories on how bad it is at EK and whether or not you think the EK pilots complain too much. At least 5 were willing to give up the left seat at EK to go back to regional flying.
They're getting US 121 current...the US is a bit skittish of guys that have been flying overseas. I know that sounds ridiculous, and it is. Furthermore, it's against the law to discriminate based on race, religion, nationality or creed. Unfortunately, it seems to be the case.
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Old 30th Apr 2017, 15:33
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That's completely inaccurate. The US isn't a bit skittish, they are taking a lot of EK guys. Even the "Big 3" are taking EK guys despite the campaign against EK. The only carrier that I have heard that hasn't taken EK guys is FedEx, and I can only assume that's based on their 5 year rule of living in the US. UPS doesn't have that and is taken EK pilots, United, American, Delta all have hired EK pilots in the last 12 months. Southwest has taken a lot of EK guys. I haven't heard about JetBlue in fairness taking any EK pilots.
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Old 30th Apr 2017, 16:09
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Originally Posted by Fred Garvin M.P.
That's completely inaccurate. The US isn't a bit skittish, they are taking a lot of EK guys. Even the "Big 3" are taking EK guys despite the campaign against EK. The only carrier that I have heard that hasn't taken EK guys is FedEx, and I can only assume that's based on their 5 year rule of living in the US. UPS doesn't have that and is taken EK pilots, United, American, Delta all have hired EK pilots in the last 12 months. Southwest has taken a lot of EK guys. I haven't heard about JetBlue in fairness taking any EK pilots.
Good news!
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Old 30th Apr 2017, 16:10
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Originally Posted by 120feet
GoJet, a US Regional, currently has 5, yes 5 ex EK Captains going through new hire training. So whether or not you believe the stories on how bad it is at EK and whether or not you think the EK pilots complain too much. At least 5 were willing to give up the left seat at EK to go back to regional flying.
Good on them. I wish them best of luck and that they will find peace and happiness. Maybe find joy in aviation again.
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