EK: Enough is Enough
Joined: Jun 2006
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From: Dubai
bigdaviet:
The Indian layovers are a big improvement IMO.
The Indian layovers are a big improvement IMO.
If losing another nights sleep and a day off compared to just doing a nasty T/A is an improvement then I need some of your coolaid.
Toughen the fu<k up princess.
Gimme the days off.
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From: Doctor's waiting room
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From: Hiding in the bushes.
What a mindlessly and unnecessarily rude reply.
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From: dubai
Joined: Nov 2009
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From: Dusty West
Sadly, prolonged fatigue does tend to turn one into an asshole. When it starts to affect family and friends then you have to make the choice to accept it or leave. Many are leaving now, some with no job to go to. AAR has the final say in rostering and has made no attempt to hide the fact that he is actively involved in making sure pilots are pushed to the limit, and in many cases, beyond the limit.
Joined: Jun 2001
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From: Brit living in Malaysia
When I first joined EK, I heard pilots talking about going sick so they could attend things such as school events with their children, birthdays etc. My opinion then was that they were very selfish and crapping on their colleagues.
Whilst I still think that it is crapping on your colleagues, I am much more sympathetic to those that do manage their roster by going sick. And I also understand the reluctance by many to call sick fatigued.
I have no idea how much lower we can go but I do feel that we are now in the end game.
Whilst I still think that it is crapping on your colleagues, I am much more sympathetic to those that do manage their roster by going sick. And I also understand the reluctance by many to call sick fatigued.
I have no idea how much lower we can go but I do feel that we are now in the end game.
Joined: Mar 2003
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From: Dubai
Love the latest missive from the Bouncy Castle, it looks to be straight out of the Idiots guide on how not to manage your employees.
So, in the vague chance one of you lazy pilots manages to compromise recency, by going sick or having a holiday, our IT and rostering staff/systems are so inept that it will be your responsibility and fault. If that happens you will have to pay for the simulator.
I honestly think there is a manager somewhere in the BC who is deliberately trying to chase pilots away, otherwise how else can you explain the total idiocy of that?
So, in the vague chance one of you lazy pilots manages to compromise recency, by going sick or having a holiday, our IT and rostering staff/systems are so inept that it will be your responsibility and fault. If that happens you will have to pay for the simulator.
I honestly think there is a manager somewhere in the BC who is deliberately trying to chase pilots away, otherwise how else can you explain the total idiocy of that?
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From: notwhereIwannabe
Ruserious,
I agree. I think that plan started when they forced A330 captains back to the right seat. They want guys to leave on their own rather than announce face-losing redundancies when the big downsizing starts.
Toolow
I agree. I think that plan started when they forced A330 captains back to the right seat. They want guys to leave on their own rather than announce face-losing redundancies when the big downsizing starts.
Toolow
Joined: Jun 2006
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From: UK
Love the latest missive from the Bouncy Castle, it looks to be straight out of the Idiots guide on how not to manage your employees.
So, in the vague chance one of you lazy pilots manages to compromise recency, by going sick or having a holiday, our IT and rostering staff/systems are so inept that it will be your responsibility and fault. If that happens you will have to pay for the simulator.
I honestly think there is a manager somewhere in the BC who is deliberately trying to chase pilots away, otherwise how else can you explain the total idiocy of that?
So, in the vague chance one of you lazy pilots manages to compromise recency, by going sick or having a holiday, our IT and rostering staff/systems are so inept that it will be your responsibility and fault. If that happens you will have to pay for the simulator.
I honestly think there is a manager somewhere in the BC who is deliberately trying to chase pilots away, otherwise how else can you explain the total idiocy of that?
The more likely reason is that someone has had a recency issue...and rather than have people held too account, its much easier to blame lazy pilots.
Joined: Nov 2003
Aviation Qualifications: ATP+Mil
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From: Terra Firma
Wow, is it the millennial generation mainly on here these days.
So many of these posts are about Me, Myself & I.
I would be ashamed if my kiddies got this demented on here.
A good weekend to all and go enjoy some grape juice or otherwise.
J
So many of these posts are about Me, Myself & I.
I would be ashamed if my kiddies got this demented on here.
A good weekend to all and go enjoy some grape juice or otherwise.
J
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From: UK