EK: Enough is Enough
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From: usa
They're getting US 121 current...the US is a bit skittish of guys that have been flying overseas. I know that sounds ridiculous, and it is. Furthermore, it's against the law to discriminate based on race, religion, nationality or creed. Unfortunately, it seems to be the case.
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B-757
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From: The wrong timezone
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From: Terra Firma
Rather like the 521 detailed report, this years financial figures appear to have been be rather "overlooked". The quietness and lack of communication is deafening from HQ. Will time pass and hopefully no one will know notice?
J
J
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From: Dubai - sand land.
Originally Posted by jack
Rather like the 521 detailed report, this years financial figures appear to have been be rather "overlooked". The quietness and lack of communication is deafening from HQ. Will time pass and hopefully no one will know notice?
J
J
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From: Up in the air
Last year the announcement of the announcement was made already on April 25th, so I agree on the observation that there will no need to dress up the HQ atrium this year.
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From: Permanent JET LAGGG
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From: MIDDLE EAST
DUNDA
With respect, and without knowing your full circumstances, discounting a potential employer based 'purely' on anonymous posts is being somewhat naive and ignorant.
These forums are an opportunity for many pilots to vent their anger and air their frustrations. You only need to look at other Worldwide threads to realise this is not unique to EK. Pilots whinge, moan and complain. Always have and always will. There is a lot of emotion on these forums, some justified, some not. Everyone's personal circumstances are unique and opinion and advice will be biased towards individual desires.
Whilst you're quite right in being judicious in your approach to the glitzy PR and hollow promises, perhaps you'd have been better speaking with individuals actually employed here. Not only might their opinion differ, but even amongst fleets, age and personal circumstances, advice will vary. There is definitely a retention and recruitment issue, no doubt about it, but that does not detract that for many, this can and still does offer a reasonable lifestyle for a decent remuneration.
I'm not disagreeing with your actual decision per say, but in the methodology in reaching that decision.
jack schidt
Internal Report was finalised several weeks ago and is being 'reviewed' by senior management before release to the general populous! How long or with what changes are recommended, both within the report and operationally, remain to be seen. We will, most likely, see those recommendations discreetly integrated into our Evidence Based Training. As we're already seeing in fact with Go arounds being the 'hot topic'.
WK
Agreed, but I will not be holding my breath for anything this year, let alone profit share.
Harry
With respect, and without knowing your full circumstances, discounting a potential employer based 'purely' on anonymous posts is being somewhat naive and ignorant.
These forums are an opportunity for many pilots to vent their anger and air their frustrations. You only need to look at other Worldwide threads to realise this is not unique to EK. Pilots whinge, moan and complain. Always have and always will. There is a lot of emotion on these forums, some justified, some not. Everyone's personal circumstances are unique and opinion and advice will be biased towards individual desires.
Whilst you're quite right in being judicious in your approach to the glitzy PR and hollow promises, perhaps you'd have been better speaking with individuals actually employed here. Not only might their opinion differ, but even amongst fleets, age and personal circumstances, advice will vary. There is definitely a retention and recruitment issue, no doubt about it, but that does not detract that for many, this can and still does offer a reasonable lifestyle for a decent remuneration.
I'm not disagreeing with your actual decision per say, but in the methodology in reaching that decision.
jack schidt
Internal Report was finalised several weeks ago and is being 'reviewed' by senior management before release to the general populous! How long or with what changes are recommended, both within the report and operationally, remain to be seen. We will, most likely, see those recommendations discreetly integrated into our Evidence Based Training. As we're already seeing in fact with Go arounds being the 'hot topic'.
WK
Agreed, but I will not be holding my breath for anything this year, let alone profit share.
Harry
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From: Doctor's waiting room
Harry
I agree that purely basing a decision on information gleaned from this website could be argued as not being particularly through in terms of attention to detail. However the difficult question is what other mediums of information are available that are as easily accessible as this website, if one doesn't know anyone in the company?
If you have someone who lives in one of the far flung corners of the world relative to Dubai and knows no one in the company, then what is read here is probably going to be a very significant source of information of life as an EK pilot both on the aircraft and also whilst off it in Dubai.
I agree that purely basing a decision on information gleaned from this website could be argued as not being particularly through in terms of attention to detail. However the difficult question is what other mediums of information are available that are as easily accessible as this website, if one doesn't know anyone in the company?
If you have someone who lives in one of the far flung corners of the world relative to Dubai and knows no one in the company, then what is read here is probably going to be a very significant source of information of life as an EK pilot both on the aircraft and also whilst off it in Dubai.
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From: Botswana
I'd just like to know how this is possible when there are no start dates for BA hold poolers being issued at the moment and recruitment for this year is for FPP's only?
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From: Somewhere near an Airport
No use of cribbing here. The whole EK pilot community has to stand up and demand for fair T & C. But the fact is there is no unity amongst pilots generally, even if there was a chance to form an union. Hence the EK type managers take full advantage of it. Take it or leave it !
It's obvious why they are asking a type rated pilot to signup a 50k/5 year bond. Slavery !
It's obvious why they are asking a type rated pilot to signup a 50k/5 year bond. Slavery !