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Old 28th Feb 2011, 12:16
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Always used CL until recently

But now only for housing, yes always.. My property is listed on there. but NO follow up.
Also use dubizzle dot com,and get plenty of responses. (free service).

also www.olx dot ae is good

In response to a later post, there are plenty of search engines available, just look up property of sale / rent in Dubai.....

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Air France, Lufthansa, British Airways, Iberia, THY (commuting contract), Alitalia..to name a few... basic FO salary in ek 24000 dhs ( 4800 euro) Captain 36000 dhs (7800 euro)
As I said the allowance should not be considered since most of the pilots are in company accommodation anyway. And if you have a long term plan is the only option.
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Apology accepted Left

I will accept your apology because I am one of those who is honest and works hard. I also work smart. You are choosing to make assumptions about me and place me in categories of 1. EK wives (plural is wives not wifes by the way), 2. agents who are here to make a buck because they have no real skill and should go back to a former career and 3. that I'm out to take an EK pilots money with exaggerated and inflated property cost with no regard to customer service. And the assumption that making a client very happy that he recommends his colleagues and friends to me is NOT what I strive for ? and 4. that I know NOTHING about aviation and my husband needs to coach me on it.

Well sir, again, you could not have been further from the truth. But the proof is in the pudding. Right?

It's unfortunate that you had the experience of a bad agent. It's even more unfortunate that a friend or colleague recommended her to you. But that doesn't make all agents bad. I WELCOME the opportunity to show you otherwise!

Glf,
You are SO right! And I am so happy to see that some more EK guys are headed our way now to be our neighbors! The drive is not that much of a difference at all and once we have about 4 more, my recommendation to hire a driver, buy a van and put him up in a studio for 18k a year and split the cost, just alleviated the drive issue. Especially after long haul trips. Once that cost is split, it is not bad at all and they are enjoying golf, marina, yacht club, shopping, golf club, various restaurants, venues, swimming pools, private beach and lagoon etc. all within walking distance. That's icing on the cake. For less than 1.3M for 4 bed villa ON the golf course. Why not? Try buying a 4 bed villa FULLY FURNISHED with all the amenities above for 1.2M where your neighbor across the street is directly on the golf course in DXB. Well I"VE GOT IT! Hmmm how much are the utility bills there???

Don't want to buy because your new to the UAE? Fine, go ahead and rent. The same villa for sale here with all the goodies above rents for less than 80k a year and the owners will take more than 1 cheque. ( my EK guy just bought for 1.15M and the original purchase price was 1.4M. TYVM! And before you say the owner was desperate or it was a distress sale, WRONG! and I know because it was MY listing! There ya go Mr. Left ASSumption, I sold my own listing for less.. thats less commission for me but my client is ecstatic! And there sir.. is the difference between any jumeirah jane agent and ME. He and his beautiful wife will be my neighbors,and our friends and she and I have plans on sharing wine on the balcony overlooking the lagoon and golf course. And he's bringing 2 friends who are looking at buying here rather than spending another 1 or 2M in Dubai and buying a boat! Where in Dubai can you walk out of your villa over to the marina and jump on your boat and go for less than 1.3M ? Or for you boys that are scared, your villa that you rented for 75k PA ( multiple cheques)

For the record, my previous career ? Real Estate. My future career? CEO of EK and I want to see you in my office the day I put my name plate on my cherry rosewood executive desk Mr! lol (j/k on that one

Yes there are those that say DONT BUY, DON"T RENT, live in DSO for free. Hey, DSO is decent. I was actually there for the first time a month ago while delivering a contract to a client. But there was no marina, no yacht club, no golf course, no beach. I'm not knocking DSO by any means! Please don't feel the need to defend why you're living there. IF i repeat IF ( there's your first clue Left) my husband's employer had housing for us there, we may possibly have still been there by now but it was NOT an option. On the contrary, FAR FROM IT!! The villa I was visiting was nice! And so was his wife and family. I really hate to see you bash any EK wife. And this one could have danced circles around your flight skills i'm sure Never assume because they are the wife of an EK pilot, they could never have been your former capt. ! But there are pilots living in EK quarters feeling the pressure and wanting to move out only to be told one bs story after another and they can't move. That choice has to be yours. I'd rather an apprehensive client hold back and move later where he/she is READY, WILLING and ABLE ( the ONLY client I prefer to work with) and happy than to right out of the gate jump into a lease or purchase and regret it. I'm not going anywhere and when someone is ready to see what the wild west of the UAE has down here vs other emirates c'mon down. Where else in the UAE can you live where there is no liquor license requirement, your neighbors don't give a crap about how much money you bring home, most don't care that you're a pilot because they actually like you for who you are, they don't close the liquor stores when the king dies and you can walk home after having too much fun. For the record, we have short term lease properties if you want to get your feet wet. I just took a listing today, fully furnished 3 bed villa with landscaped garden on the golf course for 60k on a 6 month lease or you can have it for 110 a year if you prefer to stay longer that includes garage with opener, showtime and etisalat cable already in place and rolling. Owner only request 2 weeks notice to plan move back to England. Best of luck guys!
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Wink WOW!! All this over a small Q on where to live?

I will confess to not being a great follower of PPRUNE as the topic tends to be replaced by off track, unhelpful and at times, useless mud slinging replies.

To CRAZYPILOT & those who sent me a PM - thank you, very interesting and with some good things to consider. CRAZYPILOT - Yr area is where I am looking initially.

To others who went off on one - thank you for wasting my time reading your replies. Not helpful and too a fairly simple question pls moan elsewhere!

SHEIKMYARSE: If you hate DXB/EK so much then can I assume you've handed in your notice and are on your way out? Also, going out on a limb here but I think some of your figures are wide of the truth slightly. For those you know who are up a smelly creek without a paddle - I'm sorry to hear that, however you make your choices and take your chances.

Personally for me I like Dubai and the package offered by EK. Since I first moved to DXB in the early 80's and then subsequently leaving 4 years later, I have watched the city grow and returned often for holidays; spending them with resident friends and, until recently, family. I've been round the aviation block a bit, so am under no grand illusion that EK's lawn is greener than anyone else's. Its just different. I have enough contacts in EK; from new F/O to Senior Management that I've heard most of the pro's and con's from all points. I've chosen EK, rightly or wrongly - its my choice. So while I head over to enjoy the pantomime pls comment on my original query, or enjoy your doom and gloom with those who want to listen (I hear BA/Iberia, Air France, Alitalia & Latehansa all have a good support group!)

For those of you still reading, my original query asked if anyone knew what buildings F/O's are being placed. I've got a few from current friends but been told theres new places.

Most likely taking the allowance at the moment, so any suggestions on good locations like CRAZYPILOT's greatly appreciated! Anyone tested the hotelapartments?

Thanks!
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Question for the ModS...are people allowed to advertise and sell property here on PPRUNE? Because it sure seems like it to me! The vitriol aimed my way for opening a little "whup ass" is easy to take, as the truth does hurt a little, and as we all know, trying to shout down facts is an old method of covering up one's shortcomings...ah well, happily I have no need to say anymore and end up in the slimey world of UAE real estate, trading "nyah nyah nyahs" over the internet! I hope that whether someone is a new joiner at EK, a renter, a buyer, or a seller...the experience is pleasant...best of luck, and try not to work too hard! It makes people cranky!
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[quote=SassyPilotsWife;6276123] 4. that I know NOTHING about aviation and my husband needs to coach me on it...Unquote

Lie number one. Many of your other posts claim aviation credibility from the fact that you are the daughter of a 50 year service UAL pilot and of couse the wife of an f/o at midex on which you have also commented on variously.So we have established you have been at least conservative with the truth, so tell me again why I should trust you.


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You are SO right! And I am so happy to see that some more EK guys are headed our way now to be our neighbors! Unquote

He said terminal two so that would make him, at best , part of a contracted or associated company of EK. We wouldnt be seen dead on that side of the airport except the occaisional trip to a Charlie stand in Qusais.

There are many historical precedents at EK for not trusting the latest generation of "pilots wives" who perpetuate the cylcle of old news repackaged, same rip off, different intake.


To the original poster;
This board is mostly bolox,
take the accomodation, put your name down for opt out ( 7 months wait at the moment) have a look around, assess for yourself and make a decision. You will be busy enough at the beginning without extra hassle.
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Old 1st Mar 2011, 08:16
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Read again Jim

Your reply to me shows nothing more than lateral thinking, narrow-mindedness, followed by the risks of making assumptions, and judging people and situations.

If you want to attack me for no reason, please do me the honor first of clearly reading what I wrote both in this thread as well as any others you felt compelled to occupy in your head from the past. I was NOT making the statement that I knew nothing about aviation. It was Left who did. I was responding to his assumption of it.

If you want to quote me and then deliver a poorly executed reply, for God's sake, do it for which the content was intended. What does Glf coming from T2 have ANYTHING to do with my statement regarding more EK guys becoming our neighbors? I'm not quite sure where you related the relevance.

Jim, I don't recall asking for your trust. But I do have the trust of others. It was earned, not demanded.

You replied that I have stated my father is a UAL pilot and I'm the wife of a Midex FO. I did ? Really ? You specifically read that? or are you again, assuming.

This thread had a very simple question in it and my reply was very simple to him. There was no advertisement whatsoever. There were no agent's names dropped, no phone numbers, no email addresses, no websites advertised. PERIOD. There were no " facts to shout down" to disprove any shortcomings There have been threads and post all over Pprune where information has been shared with specific names of companies, doctors, CEO's, DO's as well as other sources of information gathering and advice offered, both good and bad and its not been questioned.
If any of you felt compelled to get involved in my reply to him then that was your choice how to waste your time and you opened up the can. Honestly, why? Sitting there alone and needed something to pacify your time as you reached the bottom of the bottle?

As PT stated, the choices are yours. In the end, who and what you choose is your choice. If you made bad choices because you didn't investigate or do your homework then that is on you.

I'm headed to Dubai and DSO today so if you see a silver SL500 pass by, wave to me. I'm very harmless
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Methinks you doth protest too much.
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Old 1st Mar 2011, 09:58
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Officially an idiot I think...and now on ignore...waste of skin, you could make two good dogs from her!
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Must be Brians wife
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SL500? Thats not not as fly as a G6 is it?
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Old 2nd Mar 2011, 02:28
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As someone who is thinking of applying to the major airlines eventually, the below is my observation :

1. EK gives AED155000/year as housing allowance as stated. For a married couple, a two bedroom APARTMENT would cost in the region of AED80,000/year at most in Marina, Downtown Burj Dubai, Business Bay, JLT areas. Thats scope to save in my books. Why do people rent similar flats for around 120,000-140,000AED nowadays?? Surely there are cheaper options.

2. Dubais property market has been on the decline rent scale wise. dubizzle.com is a good source of finding great apartments with gyms, sauna, jacuzzi etc within the price range I mentioned.

3. I got myself a deal in DIFC area , 2 bedroom, 2 bathroom for AED750000/year with the best of views overlooking the sea, SZR etc. Same apartment is AED130,000 in Marina. A bit of persistent looking and searching should yield good results.

Just my two cents.

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Old 2nd Mar 2011, 03:50
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Why don't you brilliant minds send this great inside info to upper management for an award? Perhaps, just keeping dirham specifics off the public network would be a prudent idea. Next year, you'll be pocketing nada. Save it for the private sites...
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Old 2nd Mar 2011, 15:31
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Originally Posted by sheikmyarse
Air France, Lufthansa, British Airways, Iberia, THY (commuting contract), Alitalia..to name a few... basic FO salary in ek 24000 dhs ( 4800 euro) Captain 36000 dhs (7800 euro)
As I said the allowance should not be considered since most of the pilots are in company accommodation anyway.
How is that relevant? - you either take the allowance in cold hard cash or the company accommodation, whatever route you take has to be taken into account as part of the overall package.

Air France, Lufthansa, British Airways, Iberia, etc. etc. do not pay either utilities allowance or provide housing - all those costs come out of your flat salary, so you need to compare like with like.



And if you have a long term plan is the only option.
Surely the 'long term plan' would be to take the allowance and let the company buy you an apartment?
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Old 8th Mar 2011, 06:24
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Oh Sassy!

" Honestly, why? Sitting there alone and needed something to pacify your time as you reached the bottom of the bottle? "

Is this what happens in your house? Not only are you full of yourself or appear to be but you also appear to be lonely which troubles me. Talking about your fancy car which sounds wonderful, then about pilots that drink to the bottom of the bottle? Are you speaking about your marriage or childhood? I urge you to talk to someone. Many people with low self esteem talk the talk of how great things are and from the outside perhaps it looks that way but on the inside many are dying. Dying trying to keep up with the other wives, pilots with higher seniority bring you down, villa/flat rentals low, car payments high, no friends except collegues but you can't really say that they're friends. You get the picture don't you? Talk to someone and keep the selling-renting on the Spinneys message boards and lets keep this forum for what it is meant for.
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Old 9th Mar 2011, 18:15
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I will be joining soon and would like to know which building I might possibly be expected to be housed in? I am married no children.

I think millenium tower and al fattan were mentioned as we drove passed?

Are they pleasant or as rotten as that cabin crew one I was taken into?
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The apartments for unmarried FO's are fine.

Generally, they're new(ish), big and in relatively good locations.

Before moving to a villa, I was in the TECOM development by the Marina end of town... it's modern, big and has 2 nice pools and gyms.

Lots of guys recently put up in Manazel (Barsha) and Manazel (Safa) both of which are nice.

Are you sure you heard correctly about AL FATTAN...? This is a beach front skyscraper development at JBR. IT IS NOT an Emirates Crew Building...!!!

Maybe they meant to say 'Al Faltat' in Bur Dubai... this is mainly cabin crew, but the apartments are dark and enclosed and not in the best area. However they are huge if that's what you want.

By UK standards the apartments in EK are big and modern. The building quality (of the new places anyway) can be a little questionable, but most leaks and deficiencies can be fixed within a day or two).

Good Luck.
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Old 10th Mar 2011, 09:58
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Whilst i was in Dubai i had a look around millenium tower as a friend lives there, twas 10 times better than the place they show you, however, that does not mean you will not be given the apartment with the helipad view?

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Just moved back to DXB after 16 years and have have got a one bed in the Marina area (Marsa Dubai) right opposite some decent hotels. Bit of a building site right now. DHS 52000 with appliances. DEWA about DHS 250 with max AC; DU about DHS 300 (the latter two sums monthly).
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Are you sure you heard correctly about AL FATTAN...? This is a beach front skyscraper development at JBR. IT IS NOT an Emirates Crew Building...!!!
AL FATAN is mainly a cabin crew accomodation in Al Qusais. Not a very good area but close to the airport.
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