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Refund ...
Dear Mike,
Many thanks for your clarification.. Yes I understand what you mean And you are absolutely Right .. Please put in mind that my friend has lived and studied in many European countries and had a well know managerial position in one of the famous Banking sectors and he is totally aware about all the rules and regulations .. Just wanna clarify that many students left the academy and had refund without having a correct state of prove for the expenses charged during their stay. It was all given randomly without any well document supports.
The fact that the Management are trying to play it smart by stating all prices are subjected to change with prior notification. But in fact it will be changed without Any Notification.
So let me give you an example: imagine you are enrolled in the course and you have 45 hours of flying the Management will chare you for example lets say $ 250 per hour. So if you decided to leave the academy they will charge you $480 per hour . Just to make sure that you won’t have anything remaining for refund and to Revenge in a nice Way. Hope you understood my point Mike.. It’s not a personal issue it’s general case.
Many thanks again for your replay
Regards,
Many thanks for your clarification.. Yes I understand what you mean And you are absolutely Right .. Please put in mind that my friend has lived and studied in many European countries and had a well know managerial position in one of the famous Banking sectors and he is totally aware about all the rules and regulations .. Just wanna clarify that many students left the academy and had refund without having a correct state of prove for the expenses charged during their stay. It was all given randomly without any well document supports.
The fact that the Management are trying to play it smart by stating all prices are subjected to change with prior notification. But in fact it will be changed without Any Notification.
So let me give you an example: imagine you are enrolled in the course and you have 45 hours of flying the Management will chare you for example lets say $ 250 per hour. So if you decided to leave the academy they will charge you $480 per hour . Just to make sure that you won’t have anything remaining for refund and to Revenge in a nice Way. Hope you understood my point Mike.. It’s not a personal issue it’s general case.
Many thanks again for your replay
Regards,
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Dont be too hard on the accountant, he has no power at all, even routine cheques have to be signed by the CEO.. I was promised payment of final wages, and date was agreed. I was leaving Aqaba the next day, so prompt payment was vital. The management tried to delay payment. It would have been difficult for me to chase money once I had left the company, so I complained. The accountant couldnt help. The COO at Coventry tried, stating that I had delayed my departure, to help get students through an exam, no joy. So I resorted to direct action. I walked into office and made threats, I phoned head office in Amman, I got my money, but you have to get nasty. Get legal if required.
But the accountant has lasted as long as he has by looking and acting dumb.. if he hadnt, he'd be one of the 1.5 million fired..
But the accountant has lasted as long as he has by looking and acting dumb.. if he hadnt, he'd be one of the 1.5 million fired..
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AAA is a joke
Ahahhahaaaaaaa 
cant stop laughing ahahahah
cant stop laughing ahahahah
If you are a student, then you must be knowing this great CFI. Actually its the fault of HR department to enrole such joky doky GIs and CFIs. They think that by employing people from all world, AAA will become a muti-cultural International Academy. I think finally AAA will convert into an International Driving School with present Standardization Manager as its head and his son as Chief Driving Instructor.
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Mike.Park
Training agreements are usually signed when you enroll onto a course of flight training (especially when large sums of money is involved). In fact, you will not be accepted onto a course of training unless you read, understand, and sign their training agreement. It's usually part of the enrollment process before you commence training.
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AAA is A Joke ...
Goneeast,
We are talking in a subject and you are talking in another subject .. Man who mentioned the accountant .. Ary Baba .. I'm pointing to the CEO .. and his reaction .. the Accountant is dump in a way that he doesn't know how to write a cheque at all .. and it happend many times .. students went to the bank to withdraw the cheque and it was rejected, either mistake in the date, words doesnt match the amount numbers, etc.
Plus the accounts department of AAA are just acting as collection department taking money again .. again and again from students .. always accounts are CREDITED they dont know Debit T bookings .. hehhehehe .. and these days they are so Busy for the Year End closing 2008 .. they have to count how many glasses of coffee they have sold during the year on students, drivers, etc ... that might reduce the 9M losess of AAA.
We are talking in a subject and you are talking in another subject .. Man who mentioned the accountant .. Ary Baba .. I'm pointing to the CEO .. and his reaction .. the Accountant is dump in a way that he doesn't know how to write a cheque at all .. and it happend many times .. students went to the bank to withdraw the cheque and it was rejected, either mistake in the date, words doesnt match the amount numbers, etc.
Plus the accounts department of AAA are just acting as collection department taking money again .. again and again from students .. always accounts are CREDITED they dont know Debit T bookings .. hehhehehe .. and these days they are so Busy for the Year End closing 2008 .. they have to count how many glasses of coffee they have sold during the year on students, drivers, etc ... that might reduce the 9M losess of AAA.
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A320 Landing
Well i heard that there is an instructor making A320 app in a C172 ahahahahahahh 
"Hold it up hold it up more more.....booommm Tail strike
"
=======>> see this is how u land a C172...And he is still rolling on the runway to taxi out nose up....WHEELIE WOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOO
"Hold it up hold it up more more.....booommm Tail strike
"=======>> see this is how u land a C172...And he is still rolling on the runway to taxi out nose up....WHEELIE WOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Devil U r absolutely right
A320 Landing
Well i heard that there is an instructor making A320 app in a C172 ahahahahahahh
"Hold it up hold it up more more.....booommm Tail strike
"
=======>> see this is how u land a C172...And he is still rolling on the runway to taxi out nose up....WHEELIE WOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Well i heard that there is an instructor making A320 app in a C172 ahahahahahahh
"Hold it up hold it up more more.....booommm Tail strike
"=======>> see this is how u land a C172...And he is still rolling on the runway to taxi out nose up....WHEELIE WOOHOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Futuer vision of AAA = AIDS
In near future AAA will prove to be a very good Ayla International Driving School (AIDS) with Hi-tech Vehicles (HIV) fitted with DGPS being taught to these modern day drivers by the Free Lance superannuated un-licenced DCGI. The present Standardization Manager will employee his Driving Instructor son as Chief Driving Instructor (CDI). The Organization of this school will be like this:-
1. Present CEO = CEO AIDS
2. Present CGI = Chief Mechanical Instructor
3. Present Free Lance DCGI = Traffic Rules and Roads Instructor.
4. Other DCGI = Police Liaison Officer/Licencing Manager/Perfumes Store Manager
5. Present Standardization Manager = Head of AIDS
6. Present Met Instructor = Road climatology Instructor
7. 100 feet Flaring out Instructor = Drivers' Examiner
8. CPL/IR Holder CFIs = Female Driving Instructors
1. Present CEO = CEO AIDS
2. Present CGI = Chief Mechanical Instructor
3. Present Free Lance DCGI = Traffic Rules and Roads Instructor.
4. Other DCGI = Police Liaison Officer/Licencing Manager/Perfumes Store Manager
5. Present Standardization Manager = Head of AIDS
6. Present Met Instructor = Road climatology Instructor
7. 100 feet Flaring out Instructor = Drivers' Examiner
8. CPL/IR Holder CFIs = Female Driving Instructors
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A320 Landing ...
Hi Devil_Pilot & Truthful,
Yes this Guy has his own unique style of LANDING … imagine Airbus Company asked him to test the new A-380 before it was released to the Markets … No wonder .. Mr. AmeGoOoOoOos He Haaaaaaaaa … His famous world to his students fly visual and Full your Tumy as much as you can.
He has a strange habit which is to Fill his STOMACHE before and After any Flight AND it is a MUST ..
And if you are prepared for a flight and go to get his approval for any Solo Flight he will give you the same silly Question .. What is the Crosswind component ? Before you answer he directly Says ..CANCLE THE STUDENT FLIGHT .. Student IS UNPRAPARED .. Hehehe …
I think that he will be acting in ( ZORO Part II ) but he asked the Director to give him some time .. Because he has to take some of his students Solo first then he will be Free. Hehehheheh ...
Yes this Guy has his own unique style of LANDING … imagine Airbus Company asked him to test the new A-380 before it was released to the Markets … No wonder .. Mr. AmeGoOoOoOos He Haaaaaaaaa … His famous world to his students fly visual and Full your Tumy as much as you can.
He has a strange habit which is to Fill his STOMACHE before and After any Flight AND it is a MUST ..
And if you are prepared for a flight and go to get his approval for any Solo Flight he will give you the same silly Question .. What is the Crosswind component ? Before you answer he directly Says ..CANCLE THE STUDENT FLIGHT .. Student IS UNPRAPARED .. Hehehe …
I think that he will be acting in ( ZORO Part II ) but he asked the Director to give him some time .. Because he has to take some of his students Solo first then he will be Free. Hehehheheh ...
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Hi Devil
When are you going to graduate as per the latest Master Plan prepared by the Porpoise Lady CFI? Non-flying weather will soon set in Aqaba thats why I asked you this question.
Secondly I am sure that AAA will soon become AIDS, I have reasons to say this.
Thirdly I have used for Other DCGI the word, " Perfumes Store Manger". You know why? You please approach him to know the reason. If he tells you the truth, you students will further be alienated from AAA to the extent that you will start hating this Academy.
Secondly I am sure that AAA will soon become AIDS, I have reasons to say this.
Thirdly I have used for Other DCGI the word, " Perfumes Store Manger". You know why? You please approach him to know the reason. If he tells you the truth, you students will further be alienated from AAA to the extent that you will start hating this Academy.
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AmeGOoOOoOOs He Haaaaaaaaaaa
Well done Mike .. Nice Job .. But you should have drawn him with a Bigger STOMACHE and with the AAA Safety Procedure File in his Right hand .. and a Double Wapper Sandwich in his other Left hand .. heeeeeeee haaaaaaaaa
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OK, here it goes...I just cracked my fingers and I'm ready to type!
1) Member EHMH, flaming against Pilitio isn't going to do you any good...Take it easy, relax, we were once a part of the same academy.
2) Pilitio - As I see it, it's like playing a console game. When I used to stay in Aqaba, NOT flying for a whole entire month, myself and my neighbour used to connect both of our xbox360s and play Forza and challenge each other on who would tune up the car better. AAA is just a larger scale of the previous story, it's not a friggin game, it's a FUTURE, it's as relying your future on an 8-ball. Walla I wish all of my buddies especially OJAQ Delta to graduate as soon as they can because they are all my brothers, I don't really care if they get my seat or whatever in GF, as long as they are happy, I am happy. I have lived with them for a whole year and everyone of them is a genuine person and deserves a seat in the A320. I would definitely suggest the Sarrage academy SINCE they are going to bring their brother along to take their minds off graduating the guys before us and actually making plans on how to work things out properly for them.
Mafemukh - Honestly speaking, you have been a great asset to the academy and the CEO never grasped the concept of Mr.Mark Murphy to be the genius of the academy. Thank you for sharing the operation charactaristics of JAR and how they operate.
Truthful - I would really like to thank you on your out-beam of valuable information and I sincerely do give you credit for every word you wrote. Bravo 7aboob!
Last but not least.....Sarragian Academy is definitely amazing. I HEARD that both sisters have credit cards with 10K USD at their disposal. As I have mentioned earlier as well is that their brother is coming.
Some more issue from my side as a student, I had a piece of clothing stolen from me red handed.
1) We switched buildings 3 times and once I forgot one of my winter clothing piece that I got as a gift from my father in the 1st building and the good old cleaners took it and gave it to Hussain Obeidat.
2) Cleaning guys NOTIFY+REMIND me that THEY gave my belonging to Hussain Obediat and he has it in the office and I can pick it up ANYTIME I feel comfortable.
3) When I was packing my stuff to leave the academy, I call up Hussain Obeidat and ask him politely about my belonging and he says that he doesn't have anything, I remind him about the whole story for a whole minute and then he remembers and he says that he denies its existence in his office. He then asks me to call him after 5minutes, so I did. He says that he left my belonging in the TOILET and now its lost.
4) I demand a refund and he replies rudely "OK" and I ask him again, do I come and collect my money now and he says that he doesn't have any money for me.
PS. I forgot to mention somthing regarding my flight training with one of the female instructors that refused to show me how to SIDE-SLIP because she thought it was too dangerous and risky AND she wasn't that great in the Cessna as well.
What I wrote has nothing to do with the current discussion clearly but is only a way to show other members that read and do not post on how the academy operates and treats some of the students/instructors regarding their attitude and actions. This is only a small part of the community as I used to be ONE out of 120+students.
1) Member EHMH, flaming against Pilitio isn't going to do you any good...Take it easy, relax, we were once a part of the same academy.
2) Pilitio - As I see it, it's like playing a console game. When I used to stay in Aqaba, NOT flying for a whole entire month, myself and my neighbour used to connect both of our xbox360s and play Forza and challenge each other on who would tune up the car better. AAA is just a larger scale of the previous story, it's not a friggin game, it's a FUTURE, it's as relying your future on an 8-ball. Walla I wish all of my buddies especially OJAQ Delta to graduate as soon as they can because they are all my brothers, I don't really care if they get my seat or whatever in GF, as long as they are happy, I am happy. I have lived with them for a whole year and everyone of them is a genuine person and deserves a seat in the A320. I would definitely suggest the Sarrage academy SINCE they are going to bring their brother along to take their minds off graduating the guys before us and actually making plans on how to work things out properly for them.
Mafemukh - Honestly speaking, you have been a great asset to the academy and the CEO never grasped the concept of Mr.Mark Murphy to be the genius of the academy. Thank you for sharing the operation charactaristics of JAR and how they operate.
Truthful - I would really like to thank you on your out-beam of valuable information and I sincerely do give you credit for every word you wrote. Bravo 7aboob!
Last but not least.....Sarragian Academy is definitely amazing. I HEARD that both sisters have credit cards with 10K USD at their disposal. As I have mentioned earlier as well is that their brother is coming.
Some more issue from my side as a student, I had a piece of clothing stolen from me red handed.
1) We switched buildings 3 times and once I forgot one of my winter clothing piece that I got as a gift from my father in the 1st building and the good old cleaners took it and gave it to Hussain Obeidat.
2) Cleaning guys NOTIFY+REMIND me that THEY gave my belonging to Hussain Obediat and he has it in the office and I can pick it up ANYTIME I feel comfortable.
3) When I was packing my stuff to leave the academy, I call up Hussain Obeidat and ask him politely about my belonging and he says that he doesn't have anything, I remind him about the whole story for a whole minute and then he remembers and he says that he denies its existence in his office. He then asks me to call him after 5minutes, so I did. He says that he left my belonging in the TOILET and now its lost.
4) I demand a refund and he replies rudely "OK" and I ask him again, do I come and collect my money now and he says that he doesn't have any money for me.
PS. I forgot to mention somthing regarding my flight training with one of the female instructors that refused to show me how to SIDE-SLIP because she thought it was too dangerous and risky AND she wasn't that great in the Cessna as well.
What I wrote has nothing to do with the current discussion clearly but is only a way to show other members that read and do not post on how the academy operates and treats some of the students/instructors regarding their attitude and actions. This is only a small part of the community as I used to be ONE out of 120+students.
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What I truly found hilarious when I came to Bahrain is when I attended the NYIT car show and saw AYLA in the projector screen as well as the raffle bag was AFL/Ayla. Quite ironic, a university going to another university for publicity.
NYIT is the next satellite location for Ayla, huh??? Land the Remus in the parking lot!
NYIT is the next satellite location for Ayla, huh??? Land the Remus in the parking lot!
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I Thank you All
Devil, Mike.Park, Scorpion777 and Striker54 I thank you all. Now I am doing research on the AIDS maintenence and Safety programme and you will soon hear somthing alarming in this regard.
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Just out of interest, I have a copy of the Gulf Air Audit checklist for FTO's.
It states that the Head of Training :
Shall have extensive experience in training AS A FLIGHT INSTRUCTOR for professional (i.e NOT PPL) pilot licences and possess sound manegerial capability. The HT shall hold or have held, in 3 years prior to first appointment as a HT, a professional pilot licence and rating(s) issued in accordance with ICAO Annex 1, related to the flying course being conducted.
I shall say no more.
It states that the Head of Training :
Shall have extensive experience in training AS A FLIGHT INSTRUCTOR for professional (i.e NOT PPL) pilot licences and possess sound manegerial capability. The HT shall hold or have held, in 3 years prior to first appointment as a HT, a professional pilot licence and rating(s) issued in accordance with ICAO Annex 1, related to the flying course being conducted.
I shall say no more.
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Regarding the Gulf Air audit, it was a total joke. The guys that went down were wined & dined & given other incentives to recommend Ayla. The BDB rep, you know who I mean-the supposedly religious guy, has been making shady deals with flying schools in order to get his sons free or heavily discounted courses.
The whole thing is one big house of cards waiting for the slightest jolt & it will all come down. I believe that even the VP Training in GF has some portion of the blame also. But let's see if there will be any justice for these people who have no regard for people's lives.
The whole thing is one big house of cards waiting for the slightest jolt & it will all come down. I believe that even the VP Training in GF has some portion of the blame also. But let's see if there will be any justice for these people who have no regard for people's lives.
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Woow
Hi all ,
This thread is getting worst day by day
Anyway just wanted to let you know guyz that everyone is aware of what's going in Ayla.
* On my way back to Amman was sitting next to this guy who was reading an aviation book...So we started talking and told him that i was a trainee pilot in Ayla...He suddenly looked at me and told me "How is the **** going there????"...I was shocked...Then he was kind of making fun "goodluck on finishing your hours with 7 cessnas ahahahah "
* Heard guyz in the USA recommanding people not to go there
I agree the rates are very high for what we get 380$$$ solo 480 $$$ Dual
I'm not very happy from the missions we get, training area and come back WTF !!!
But this once again it's not the academy, it's the
country , No airspace , Everything is forbidden ( If you take your camera with u onboard the Famous dispatcher will say La2 it's not allowed )
Anyway i'm not hear to screw everything because at the end we will graduate from there so there is no point...Yes indeed things are not perfect but maybe the CEO could listen a bit more to our ideas (of course after making research on it) and involve more the students in FI meetings, procedures etc,,,,SO WE KNOW WHATS GOING ON !!!!!!
Cheers
This thread is getting worst day by day
Anyway just wanted to let you know guyz that everyone is aware of what's going in Ayla.
* On my way back to Amman was sitting next to this guy who was reading an aviation book...So we started talking and told him that i was a trainee pilot in Ayla...He suddenly looked at me and told me "How is the **** going there????"...I was shocked...Then he was kind of making fun "goodluck on finishing your hours with 7 cessnas ahahahah "
* Heard guyz in the USA recommanding people not to go there
I agree the rates are very high for what we get 380$$$ solo 480 $$$ Dual
I'm not very happy from the missions we get, training area and come back WTF !!!
But this once again it's not the academy, it's the
country , No airspace , Everything is forbidden ( If you take your camera with u onboard the Famous dispatcher will say La2 it's not allowed ) Anyway i'm not hear to screw everything because at the end we will graduate from there so there is no point...Yes indeed things are not perfect but maybe the CEO could listen a bit more to our ideas (of course after making research on it) and involve more the students in FI meetings, procedures etc,,,,SO WE KNOW WHATS GOING ON !!!!!!
Cheers
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X-country flights
I'm not very happy from the missions we get, training area and come back WTF !!!