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>> ...how are you treated if you are involved in a difference of opinion on the flight deck<<
Rather easy for the Commander...he is always right and if the copilot doesn't like it, he can go and complain to the head shed.
Now, why would anyone think differently, I wonder?
Rather easy for the Commander...he is always right and if the copilot doesn't like it, he can go and complain to the head shed.
Now, why would anyone think differently, I wonder?
Some are more equal than others 411. It depends on the nationality of the FO as to who is correct it would seem.
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411 now I know how the cockpit was handled on the 707 and the Connie. I was not around that long ago but I heard stories about the domineering captain back in the good ole days of aviation. You must have been quite a catch for your FOs. In the days before pref bid it must have been tough for "your" FOs to bid away from you. Today all we have to do is put 1000 points avoid flying with old, grumpy, ass$%#@ captain and our month would be okay.
Max motoring good points all. Don't forget to tell your Air Bubba buddies that if they do decide to go home more than once a year it will cost them an arm and a leg to travel on their own airline. I am talking in the neighborhood of $600 per person. Criminal. Also be sure to tell all the Captains there not to come as DECs.
Max motoring good points all. Don't forget to tell your Air Bubba buddies that if they do decide to go home more than once a year it will cost them an arm and a leg to travel on their own airline. I am talking in the neighborhood of $600 per person. Criminal. Also be sure to tell all the Captains there not to come as DECs.
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You can not use the “my family” excuse. This has nothing to do with it as any bachelor would do the same.
We are slowly but surely going into the direction where Seniority is of old age.
If the mayors in Europe would open their companies for DEC, some would be in trouble very quickly.
There is a shortage on the market and who get’s them first has them.
You can not use the “my family” excuse. This has nothing to do with it as any bachelor would do the same.
We are slowly but surely going into the direction where Seniority is of old age.
If the mayors in Europe would open their companies for DEC, some would be in trouble very quickly.
There is a shortage on the market and who get’s them first has them.
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Ek Command upgrade w/less than 12 months
Hi,
Anybody knows how a Command upgrade for an FO with less than 12 months in the company being called? this is a way way faster than an accelerated upgrade, and its happening right now. I think in a way, it should be written somewhere.
BT1
Anybody knows how a Command upgrade for an FO with less than 12 months in the company being called? this is a way way faster than an accelerated upgrade, and its happening right now. I think in a way, it should be written somewhere.
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F/O's on the Boeing who are DEC qualified are being offered upgrades in less than a year. Meanwhile F/O's who are DEC qualified but are on the bus have been left behind. Go figure!
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Originally Posted by Warlock2000
Can you rewrite that post again when you're off the juice? 
My sincere apology,i tend to forget that i've been drugging myself lately. Mine was just a matter of question,thanks.
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DEC requirements dropped?
According to this link
http://www.skynet24.com/jobs/opportu...icers_735.html
the DEC requirements have been dropped considerably. It doesn't say so on the official EK website yet, however I would not be very surprised if that is just the start to what they will (need) to do to avoid their planes being parked.
Let's see where the other requirements go down to. Trainers, you're looking at more work...
http://www.skynet24.com/jobs/opportu...icers_735.html
the DEC requirements have been dropped considerably. It doesn't say so on the official EK website yet, however I would not be very surprised if that is just the start to what they will (need) to do to avoid their planes being parked.
Let's see where the other requirements go down to. Trainers, you're looking at more work...
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Emirates offers unparalleled opportunities for ambitious pilots to advance their careers and fly the worlds most modern aircraft on a rapidly expanding route network. Our future plans will see an unprecedented delivery cycle of one new aircraft per month until 2012, resulting in a doubling of our current fleet size.
Essential to our ongoing success will be the employment of high quality pilots who will thrive in a truly international team environment, living in Dubai, a modern cosmopolitan city offering one of the most desirable lifestyles in the world.
Outstanding opportunities currently exist for First Officers with Emirates. We are also seeking experienced Captains for the Boeing 777 fleet. Preference for Direct Entry Captain positions will be given to candidates who are type rated on Boeing Glass Cockpit aircraft.
We offer job security, excellent career prospects and a competitive tax-free remuneration package, which includes accommodation, education assistance for children, comprehensive medical insurance and generous end of service benefits.
Qualifications
Requirements for the position of Captain- B777:
A minimum of 8,000 hours total flying time
3,000 command hours on aircraft above 55 tonnes
4,000 hours flown in multi-crew, multi-engine jet or turbo prop aircraft with MTOW of 10 tonnes or more, as P1 or P2
Preference will be given to candidates with Boeing EFIS experience who will be eligible to undertake a short transition course
ICAO ATPL
Must be a current Captain
First Officers qualified as Cruise Captains do not meet the Direct Entry Captain requirements
Applicants must be available to join before their 56th birthday and should have experience commensurate with age
English language fluency (written and verbal comprehension)
Requirements for the position of First Officer
A minimum of 4,000 hours total flying time
2,000 hours flown in multi-crew, multi engine jet aircraft experience
ICAO ATPL
Applicants must be less than 49 years on joining
English language fluency (written and verbal comprehension)
Experience commensurate with age
Essential to our ongoing success will be the employment of high quality pilots who will thrive in a truly international team environment, living in Dubai, a modern cosmopolitan city offering one of the most desirable lifestyles in the world.
Outstanding opportunities currently exist for First Officers with Emirates. We are also seeking experienced Captains for the Boeing 777 fleet. Preference for Direct Entry Captain positions will be given to candidates who are type rated on Boeing Glass Cockpit aircraft.
We offer job security, excellent career prospects and a competitive tax-free remuneration package, which includes accommodation, education assistance for children, comprehensive medical insurance and generous end of service benefits.
Qualifications
Requirements for the position of Captain- B777:
A minimum of 8,000 hours total flying time
3,000 command hours on aircraft above 55 tonnes
4,000 hours flown in multi-crew, multi-engine jet or turbo prop aircraft with MTOW of 10 tonnes or more, as P1 or P2
Preference will be given to candidates with Boeing EFIS experience who will be eligible to undertake a short transition course
ICAO ATPL
Must be a current Captain
First Officers qualified as Cruise Captains do not meet the Direct Entry Captain requirements
Applicants must be available to join before their 56th birthday and should have experience commensurate with age
English language fluency (written and verbal comprehension)
Requirements for the position of First Officer
A minimum of 4,000 hours total flying time
2,000 hours flown in multi-crew, multi engine jet aircraft experience
ICAO ATPL
Applicants must be less than 49 years on joining
English language fluency (written and verbal comprehension)
Experience commensurate with age
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pathetic pilot management
This is really getting worse every day.
No communication from management at all, not on new routes, aircraft deliveries/changes in deliveries, and worst of all, apparent change in recruitment criteria.
Imagine the hypotetical guy who joined two weeks ago as a F/O, hoping for a fast track, who now seems to have been able to get in as a DEC... lol
But far more worse of are especially the guys on airbus. Most of them are looking at way passed 4 years for a command (3,5 to start the course now, but there was a huge recruitment boom on airbus about 2 to 3 years ago, so time will increase) A lot of them would have had the DEC criteria if they didn't come and help EK out 3 years ago.
This must be about the poorest management I have ever seen... but what do you expect with the chief resigned, the 'subchief' getting retired and TCAS, well, what is he doing exactly? Is he sick, or maybe dead?
Anyhow, I won't be in CBC for the next days (lucky me..) but I would love to see the reactions when this goes on the advalvas... Maybe that's why they suddenly 'protected' the thing with a glass wall..
Anyone with enough balls to raise a question at the financial con meeting next wednesday?
Truly disappointed... AGAIN!!!
MR8
No communication from management at all, not on new routes, aircraft deliveries/changes in deliveries, and worst of all, apparent change in recruitment criteria.
Imagine the hypotetical guy who joined two weeks ago as a F/O, hoping for a fast track, who now seems to have been able to get in as a DEC... lol
But far more worse of are especially the guys on airbus. Most of them are looking at way passed 4 years for a command (3,5 to start the course now, but there was a huge recruitment boom on airbus about 2 to 3 years ago, so time will increase) A lot of them would have had the DEC criteria if they didn't come and help EK out 3 years ago.
This must be about the poorest management I have ever seen... but what do you expect with the chief resigned, the 'subchief' getting retired and TCAS, well, what is he doing exactly? Is he sick, or maybe dead?
Anyhow, I won't be in CBC for the next days (lucky me..) but I would love to see the reactions when this goes on the advalvas... Maybe that's why they suddenly 'protected' the thing with a glass wall..
Anyone with enough balls to raise a question at the financial con meeting next wednesday?
Truly disappointed... AGAIN!!!
MR8
ZOMP. Just been on the EK Groupcareers website, just the normal 10K requirement for DEC's. Have you been fiddling with the figures 
or did i miss somethinbg, more likely 
EGGW
or did i miss somethinbg, more likely EGGW
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Originally Posted by CK2
According to this link
http://www.skynet24.com/jobs/opportu...icers_735.html
the DEC requirements have been dropped considerably. It doesn't say so on the official EK website yet, however I would not be very surprised if that is just the start to what they will (need) to do to avoid their planes being parked.
Let's see where the other requirements go down to. Trainers, you're looking at more work...
http://www.skynet24.com/jobs/opportu...icers_735.html
the DEC requirements have been dropped considerably. It doesn't say so on the official EK website yet, however I would not be very surprised if that is just the start to what they will (need) to do to avoid their planes being parked.
Let's see where the other requirements go down to. Trainers, you're looking at more work...
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Scooter, I know a few of them, that's F/O's with more then 10000hrs.
For them it's the normal upgrade order, i.e.
1. normal F/O criteria (+6000hrs +3yrs)
2. accelerated F/O criteria (+8000hrs, +2000hrs heavy command, +18 months)
3. DEC criteria (+10000hrs, ... would this change to 8000 as well???)
So, they're caught by the order of upgrade, there are plenty of guys on the bus with more then 3 years waiting for their command, so group 1 is providing the upgrades. Group 2 & 3 are only applicable when no one in 1 is suitable.
These guys have more experience then some DEC's, have been in the company for a few years, but nevertheless get bypassed by some
from outside.
I cannot see how they can justify this, but then again, they won't, not even try to..
Disgusted
MR8
For them it's the normal upgrade order, i.e.
1. normal F/O criteria (+6000hrs +3yrs)
2. accelerated F/O criteria (+8000hrs, +2000hrs heavy command, +18 months)
3. DEC criteria (+10000hrs, ... would this change to 8000 as well???)
So, they're caught by the order of upgrade, there are plenty of guys on the bus with more then 3 years waiting for their command, so group 1 is providing the upgrades. Group 2 & 3 are only applicable when no one in 1 is suitable.
These guys have more experience then some DEC's, have been in the company for a few years, but nevertheless get bypassed by some
from outside.I cannot see how they can justify this, but then again, they won't, not even try to..
Disgusted
MR8
