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Kiwi,
You are an oddball.
Whilst you proclaim to be a proud born-and-bred NZer you clearly find it hard to keep away from the ME forum.
You sound suspiciously like an ex Ansett NZ pilot who has lost all his friends to the Gulf and is lonely; poor fellow.
Why not keep to the 'down under' forums. At least there your comments will have some modicum of validity.
Mack
p.s. I was looking for a 'loser' smiley but there isn't one; if there was it would have gone in place of this sentence.
You are an oddball.
Whilst you proclaim to be a proud born-and-bred NZer you clearly find it hard to keep away from the ME forum.
You sound suspiciously like an ex Ansett NZ pilot who has lost all his friends to the Gulf and is lonely; poor fellow.
Why not keep to the 'down under' forums. At least there your comments will have some modicum of validity.
Mack
p.s. I was looking for a 'loser' smiley but there isn't one; if there was it would have gone in place of this sentence.
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Not totally surprised of course, as few at EK haven't any idea about the old days, but indeed it might come as a surprise to a few that some of the original pilots at EK were American nationals, on the B727.
These folks were not especially liked by those that followed, mainly because they (the Americans) did not whine and moan at nearly every opportunity, as many of the Brits etc that followed.
For that reason alone I would expect that the American DEC's that arrive now, might well be resented.
However, those First Officers at EK now will simply have to carry on regardless, as they clearly have positively no input whatsoever on EK policy.
Nor, should they have.
In other words, tough beans guys, like it or lump it...it makes no difference whatsoever, and there is nothing you can do about it anyway.
Quiet in the bar, you say?
Who gives a damn?
Certainly not the DEC's.
To the Brits etc it might, but not to Americans.
These folks were not especially liked by those that followed, mainly because they (the Americans) did not whine and moan at nearly every opportunity, as many of the Brits etc that followed.
For that reason alone I would expect that the American DEC's that arrive now, might well be resented.
However, those First Officers at EK now will simply have to carry on regardless, as they clearly have positively no input whatsoever on EK policy.
Nor, should they have.
In other words, tough beans guys, like it or lump it...it makes no difference whatsoever, and there is nothing you can do about it anyway.
Quiet in the bar, you say?
Who gives a damn?
Certainly not the DEC's.
To the Brits etc it might, but not to Americans.
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Originally Posted by Mack Tuck
Kiwi,
You are an oddball.
Whilst you proclaim to be a proud born-and-bred NZer you clearly find it hard to keep away from the ME forum.
You sound suspiciously like an ex Ansett NZ pilot who has lost all his friends to the Gulf and is lonely; poor fellow.
Why not keep to the 'down under' forums. At least there your comments will have some modicum of validity.
Mack
p.s. I was looking for a 'loser' smiley but there isn't one; if there was it would have gone in place of this sentence.
You are an oddball.
Whilst you proclaim to be a proud born-and-bred NZer you clearly find it hard to keep away from the ME forum.
You sound suspiciously like an ex Ansett NZ pilot who has lost all his friends to the Gulf and is lonely; poor fellow.
Why not keep to the 'down under' forums. At least there your comments will have some modicum of validity.
Mack
p.s. I was looking for a 'loser' smiley but there isn't one; if there was it would have gone in place of this sentence.
Thats rather harsh Mack.
u.PS. I'm guessing the VN DEC position didn't work out?
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Originally Posted by 411A
........that some of the original pilots at EK were American nationals, on the B727.
These folks were not especially liked by those that followed, mainly because they (the Americans) did not whine and moan at nearly every opportunity, as many of the Brits etc that followed.
These folks were not especially liked by those that followed, mainly because they (the Americans) did not whine and moan at nearly every opportunity, as many of the Brits etc that followed.
Those Americans, with one exception, were well liked and well respected. The aforementioned exception left Emirates by taking out a large local bank loan and then doing a runner to Fedex
There were no whiners and moaners at EK, other than that same US exception, until around 2003.
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411A, at last you are caught out! I absolutely agree with the above. How do I know? I was there buddy. Incidentally, back in 1990, where were you? Probably just checking the mags? Gotta admit, pretty airplane though.
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411A may be the oldest of warhorses with the most tedious way of telling his war stories, but I don't doubt that he really has been there and done that.
But I'm now wondering if that includes being at Emirates and being the exceptional runner mentioned above.
He wouldn't advertise that part of his history. Anybody know if 411A's initials are BW?
But I'm now wondering if that includes being at Emirates and being the exceptional runner mentioned above.
He wouldn't advertise that part of his history. Anybody know if 411A's initials are BW?
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Indeed it is a 411A, EK Pilot, and yes I do own and fly one, as a personal aeroplane.
However, I'm thinking of selling it as business is so good, I now can afford a... CE441, with -10 motors.
Coast to coast in 6.5 hours, in air conditioned pressurized comfort.
James, where the hell did you put the Havanas'?
Oh yes, EK Pilot, 1990 was about four years after I turned down an invitation to join the then rather small EK, as a direct entry Captain.
SV was paying far too much to change horses and, I sure as heck didn't want to fly an Airboos.
EK held open interviews at the Crown Plaza in JED at the time, wanting folks from SV to join.
Come to think of it there was one American at EK (who was previously with EAL and SQ), was on the A310 or possibly the A300, can't remember which, who constantly whined and moaned...with the initials *WOW.
Ring any bells?
He went on to fly a TriStar 500 and had the dubious distinction of dragging the tail of that aeroplane on rotation, which was really hard to do.
Didn't go to FedEx though, altho he might have liked too.
*Remembering that Bill is short for William.
However, I'm thinking of selling it as business is so good, I now can afford a... CE441, with -10 motors.
Coast to coast in 6.5 hours, in air conditioned pressurized comfort.
James, where the hell did you put the Havanas'?
Oh yes, EK Pilot, 1990 was about four years after I turned down an invitation to join the then rather small EK, as a direct entry Captain.
SV was paying far too much to change horses and, I sure as heck didn't want to fly an Airboos.
EK held open interviews at the Crown Plaza in JED at the time, wanting folks from SV to join.
Come to think of it there was one American at EK (who was previously with EAL and SQ), was on the A310 or possibly the A300, can't remember which, who constantly whined and moaned...with the initials *WOW.
Ring any bells?
He went on to fly a TriStar 500 and had the dubious distinction of dragging the tail of that aeroplane on rotation, which was really hard to do.
Didn't go to FedEx though, altho he might have liked too.
*Remembering that Bill is short for William.
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will a guy with 9000TT, 8500 on the 737-NG (4000 PIC) stand a chance of a DEC with EK
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thanks a bunch for the information. yeah, if i was an FO with EK, i would sure feel the same way ! no harm in asking anyway !
(have flown in all continents except africa)
cheers,
OTR
(have flown in all continents except africa)
cheers,
OTR
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Originally Posted by 411A
I now can afford a... CE441, with 10 motors.
Only flown with one DEC so far. He was a yank and he was weird and he was a d!ckhead so on the basis of that rather limited sampling, I tend to side with Mensaboy at this stage. Maybe I lucked out and met the only weird, American DEC with d!ckhead qualities in Ek but you have to admit it doesn't look good.
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Not ten motors, Muttley, dash ten motors.
As in...more ESHP, and longer life.
Hey, at a $1million plus, it ain't a bad bird.
Of course, I'd rather have a Lockheed JetStar, but then I'd have to put up with a .....co-pilot.
Of course, I could always use him to clean the windshield.
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*'Tis a joke son, so don't get your knickers in a twist.
As in...more ESHP, and longer life.
Hey, at a $1million plus, it ain't a bad bird.
Of course, I'd rather have a Lockheed JetStar, but then I'd have to put up with a .....co-pilot.
Of course, I could always use him to clean the windshield.
**'Tis a joke son, so don't get your knickers in a twist.
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Originally Posted by Muttley Crew
Only flown with one DEC so far. He was a yank and he was weird and he was a d!ckhead so on the basis of that rather limited sampling, I tend to side with Mensaboy at this stage. Maybe I lucked out and met the only weird, American DEC with d!ckhead qualities in Ek but you have to admit it doesn't look good.
Seems like quite a few, as you put it, d!ckhead first officers here on pprune, if these posts are any indication. How about some examples of what made these yanks so lovable.
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