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Everyone here seems to be focused on Islam and its killers, forgotten are China, surely making its way in.
Then there is North Korea that has suddenly become a viable dialogue partner even though they estimate that 100000 North Koreans die of hunger every year, why are the americans not there with their army? north Korea is producing WMD but I guess its ok!
NO worries we will continue turning a blind eye to all the rogue states and look after Iraq because they are the most dangerous at the moment.
The truth is The US went in thinking it was going to be easy in and out,
....what they have landed with is a security problem worldwide that they would like to blame on muslim extremists,
that is the truth and if you do not wish to see it its your choice, its fine with me, it does not disturb me one bit mate, carry on you will be fine.
Now, where are the US going next? The largest deficit ever, Sudan? Syria....... I mean it's ok with me too but what is the point?
Fitzcarraldo, you carry on with your frame of mind I really have nothing to say to folks like you who are just wrapped in their patriotism to a point where they do not see what's coming.
Tomorrow you will look back and if you talk of dialogue you should show interest in others' perspectives but you don't still slammering away at this myth that Arabs and Muslims are there with a sole purpose in liffe to kill christians.
We will see what the US will leave of Iraq, it already looks promising. Future will tell though and I hope that everyone on this forum will see better then.
I would laugh if after the US leave Iraq, all we find is either Saddam back in power or just another dictator just as bloody and cruel, it will tell us of the success of the "Allised " efforts there.
I really do not have time for people who need to be repeated to 10 times and whose only objective is to slander, and treat others with contempt.
I notice that you are very good at jumping quickly but you still have not answered any of my questions, you just like to criticise at your will without due foundation.
I think that you are watching too much telly mate, and in Whose names are the american killing innocent civilians? Capitalism, Democracy (And what a democracy!) Spare us theis narrow minded rethoric please!
Maybe you've been watching too much Al Jazeera yourself.
A few recommendations to some of you here is stop reading this spinned stuff from the Heritage foundation....
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Guys, this is a Professional PILOTS RUMOUR network.
Let's agree to disagree and move on to something more interesting than justifying murder of innoncent people. I have my share of this cancerous news everytime I open the newspaper...
Let's agree to disagree and move on to something more interesting than justifying murder of innoncent people. I have my share of this cancerous news everytime I open the newspaper...
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Fitz whatever:
You are a liar, bigotted and ignorant. Go play somwhere where people will believe you. Firstly you must note that I am not Muslim but Jewish. I have been living in the Gulf for 25 years and have never encountered a single problem, This said, your comments are inflamatory and there is no excuse to insult anyone.
As a jew I have yet to see the ugly side of racism like i see it in you, folk like you will excuse anything including the Shoa. Shame on you.
Talking to us like we never read and that you hold all the knowledge, get off your high horse you are neither the holder of truth or the book and represent neither christian values or Judaic ones, you are a shame to mankind!
Procrastinate all you want all I wish you is that one day reason will have the better of you.
According to you:
Personally, you can thisnk what you like fitzcrap, Please get your facts right. Chalabi never influenced US policy he was an instrument of us policy, Wolfowitz, Cheney and the think tanks did.
We are trying to make this into a dialogue or at least I thought you were until I read this:
At the end of the day, you have no excuse or proof for the invaion of IRAQ you just want to justify it by any means, go live with your cows they may believe you.
It is after all the narrow minded like you who make up for a large majority of today's problems, if you are here to exacerbate we do not need you, so please take your thoughts elswhere, maybe to the minute militia in Texas or the KKK, or even the British BNP, they need you. Bigotry, we don't want you here. Disppointed to know that the likes of you exist on this earth, you make me sick to my stomach.
GPIT
Bye
BYMONEK;
Only had a drink, funny to meet up with old Dubai, people I have not seen in 15 years, lodge days, wish I could drink now what I could then! Never asked the birds nor did I want to, but certainly negotiable affection there!
You are a liar, bigotted and ignorant. Go play somwhere where people will believe you. Firstly you must note that I am not Muslim but Jewish. I have been living in the Gulf for 25 years and have never encountered a single problem, This said, your comments are inflamatory and there is no excuse to insult anyone.
As a jew I have yet to see the ugly side of racism like i see it in you, folk like you will excuse anything including the Shoa. Shame on you.
Talking to us like we never read and that you hold all the knowledge, get off your high horse you are neither the holder of truth or the book and represent neither christian values or Judaic ones, you are a shame to mankind!
Procrastinate all you want all I wish you is that one day reason will have the better of you.
According to you:
Too bad they listened to the likes of Chalabi. Personally I think Iraq deserved Saddam and would've left him alone
We are trying to make this into a dialogue or at least I thought you were until I read this:
Yeah, right, I don't see it. Probably because I haven't got my head on backwards like the vast majority of muslims, including you.
It is after all the narrow minded like you who make up for a large majority of today's problems, if you are here to exacerbate we do not need you, so please take your thoughts elswhere, maybe to the minute militia in Texas or the KKK, or even the British BNP, they need you. Bigotry, we don't want you here. Disppointed to know that the likes of you exist on this earth, you make me sick to my stomach.
GPIT
Bye
BYMONEK;
Only had a drink, funny to meet up with old Dubai, people I have not seen in 15 years, lodge days, wish I could drink now what I could then! Never asked the birds nor did I want to, but certainly negotiable affection there!
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hi ppl
I have been reading this thread.I think american policies are to blame for todays mayhem.they thought they could influence governments for their needs and they were successful to some extent but they under estimated what the common man could do.Remeber osama bin laden once was an american govt ally.Americans funded the afghan militia against erstwhile Soviet union but the plan backfired after a few years.These are all direct result of american inteference to serve their interests.they should stop spreading their influence in other countries.Americans will do anything to serve their interests a best example of which is Pakistan.even though they advocate democracy they are supporting a country ruled by an military dictator just on the pretext of terrorism.On the contrary india which has been suffering cross border terrorism for more than a decade have been patient for years.America on the other hand went on to invade Iraq which just added fuel to the Anti american feeling.India had its own policies not influenced by any country as a result the biggest win for Indian democracy is that not a single Indian muslim is part of al qaeda network(there are very little exceptions) and has escaped the al qaeda wrath that the west is facing now,but its faing another type of terrorism called cross border terrorism.the only reason america has sided with India now is because of the economic rise of communist china another example of american interests being served in SE ASIA.
This is the main reason why Indians have sided with the russians than with america because they know america will change their colour when their interests have to be served.
America change ur policies otherwise its not only going to affect you but also your allies.
I have been reading this thread.I think american policies are to blame for todays mayhem.they thought they could influence governments for their needs and they were successful to some extent but they under estimated what the common man could do.Remeber osama bin laden once was an american govt ally.Americans funded the afghan militia against erstwhile Soviet union but the plan backfired after a few years.These are all direct result of american inteference to serve their interests.they should stop spreading their influence in other countries.Americans will do anything to serve their interests a best example of which is Pakistan.even though they advocate democracy they are supporting a country ruled by an military dictator just on the pretext of terrorism.On the contrary india which has been suffering cross border terrorism for more than a decade have been patient for years.America on the other hand went on to invade Iraq which just added fuel to the Anti american feeling.India had its own policies not influenced by any country as a result the biggest win for Indian democracy is that not a single Indian muslim is part of al qaeda network(there are very little exceptions) and has escaped the al qaeda wrath that the west is facing now,but its faing another type of terrorism called cross border terrorism.the only reason america has sided with India now is because of the economic rise of communist china another example of american interests being served in SE ASIA.
This is the main reason why Indians have sided with the russians than with america because they know america will change their colour when their interests have to be served.
America change ur policies otherwise its not only going to affect you but also your allies.
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You comments prove to me that you still don't know what an average Muslim in the street are thinking. Seeing t-shirts for sale in Malaysia showing OBL. Oh yeah that is very average. You won't see that in a typical Arab souk.
So who have you been speaking too and which interviews did you see? I already stated that most you see on the media is false. Media will interview 20 persons on the street, normally after an incident or killing, but will show 1 or 2 of the meaty ones that will be more dramatic. This is the same for the Arab media as much as the west. These are not the views of average muslims and neither is the kid wearing an OBL touting t-shirt average.
You have spoken to Muslims? Please clarify who and where? Because i differ from those you have conversed with previously does this mean i'm not an average Muslim?
I guess not! I am not typical being a westerner who was a Christian with a firm Christian upbringing before reverting.
When i have narrowly missed rocket or mortar attacks in Iraq i don't think to myself that i'm being shot at by a Muslim! I think i'm being shot at by a blo*dy idiot who is just a pawn and who's actions are misguided.
I am a bit of a mixed bag too having Catholic relatives in Northern Ireland who would have previously considered me as a Protestant. I have walked around the housing estates in Nationalist areas and drunk in IRA bars which for an English Protestant was not to comfortable i can tell you. But i was safe due to my Catholic relatives and friends and when questioned by certain parties they could see who i was and that i wasn't up to no good.
Again it is obvious that you only know only some of what you talk about and it is based on real experience which is limited. The IRA is a criminal organization (again i use the term) and they are Catholic despite what may have happened a few hundred years ago and FYI only a small part of it's activities concentrated on terrorism. They are a mafia whose crimes include protection rackets, money laundering, making counterfeit and selling stolen goods, the list goes on etc etc. Some would say that this is to fund terrorism when all it is supposed to do is line peoples pockets within the organization
Also bear in mind that the US has funded the IRA for years. There would be some large funds travelling over the pond to Ireland and most Irish pubs in New York and Boston would have collection pots on the bars to fund the Catholic's plight and where do you think this money would be going?? It may be just a drop in the ocean but the contradiction is obvious.
I have been interested to see all the views on this forum and from dialogue such as this we can obviously see that we all a have a lot to learn from each others opinions. Perhaps if more western people would take the time to understand the Islamic religion and culture and vice versa maybe we could all find some common ground that unites us, whether we be Christian, Catholic Protestant or Muslim we all worship the same god and are all brothers together. United we can fight these criminal groups, not all of which are Islamic, but while we still encourage segregation and ignorance there will always be disharmony. This is very much a Eutopian view but we all live in hope, in sha'Allah.
I think all that needs to be said has been flogged to death so i'll give a typical Arab farewell :
Hello, bye bye
You comments prove to me that you still don't know what an average Muslim in the street are thinking. Seeing t-shirts for sale in Malaysia showing OBL. Oh yeah that is very average. You won't see that in a typical Arab souk.
So who have you been speaking too and which interviews did you see? I already stated that most you see on the media is false. Media will interview 20 persons on the street, normally after an incident or killing, but will show 1 or 2 of the meaty ones that will be more dramatic. This is the same for the Arab media as much as the west. These are not the views of average muslims and neither is the kid wearing an OBL touting t-shirt average.
You have spoken to Muslims? Please clarify who and where? Because i differ from those you have conversed with previously does this mean i'm not an average Muslim?
I guess not! I am not typical being a westerner who was a Christian with a firm Christian upbringing before reverting.
When i have narrowly missed rocket or mortar attacks in Iraq i don't think to myself that i'm being shot at by a Muslim! I think i'm being shot at by a blo*dy idiot who is just a pawn and who's actions are misguided.
I am a bit of a mixed bag too having Catholic relatives in Northern Ireland who would have previously considered me as a Protestant. I have walked around the housing estates in Nationalist areas and drunk in IRA bars which for an English Protestant was not to comfortable i can tell you. But i was safe due to my Catholic relatives and friends and when questioned by certain parties they could see who i was and that i wasn't up to no good.
Again it is obvious that you only know only some of what you talk about and it is based on real experience which is limited. The IRA is a criminal organization (again i use the term) and they are Catholic despite what may have happened a few hundred years ago and FYI only a small part of it's activities concentrated on terrorism. They are a mafia whose crimes include protection rackets, money laundering, making counterfeit and selling stolen goods, the list goes on etc etc. Some would say that this is to fund terrorism when all it is supposed to do is line peoples pockets within the organization
Also bear in mind that the US has funded the IRA for years. There would be some large funds travelling over the pond to Ireland and most Irish pubs in New York and Boston would have collection pots on the bars to fund the Catholic's plight and where do you think this money would be going?? It may be just a drop in the ocean but the contradiction is obvious.
I have been interested to see all the views on this forum and from dialogue such as this we can obviously see that we all a have a lot to learn from each others opinions. Perhaps if more western people would take the time to understand the Islamic religion and culture and vice versa maybe we could all find some common ground that unites us, whether we be Christian, Catholic Protestant or Muslim we all worship the same god and are all brothers together. United we can fight these criminal groups, not all of which are Islamic, but while we still encourage segregation and ignorance there will always be disharmony. This is very much a Eutopian view but we all live in hope, in sha'Allah.
I think all that needs to be said has been flogged to death so i'll give a typical Arab farewell :
Hello, bye bye
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Who are they?
Who are the terrorists? That is the big question. All we know that they are criminals and there are many types of criminals. The US and Phony Blair always try to blame everything that happens on this planet on this big conspiracy of Al Qaida, Osama Bin laden, Zarkawi etc etc. Does nobody think that it is strange that Zarkawi can outrun the whole US military on his wooden leg in Iraq? Or Osama Bin laden lives on a bad kidney in caves in Afganistan organizing aircraft hijackings and again outruns the mighty US military? The conspiracy is that evil muslims can organize in small sleeper cells worldwide and are able to attack worldwide with deadly precision and defeat the WHOLE US defense NORAD which was originally designed to defend the US against the once powerful Soviet Union. Thanks God the Russians did not know how utter useless NORAD was
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My don't they get abusive when challenged!
I've noticed this to be a common reaction of muslims - they have such fixed world views that they just can't tolerate being contradicted. Try it on any muslim website and you'll be banned in seconds.
AMX10 - you say you are a Jew? I don't believe you, not for a second, not in a million years. Unless you are in some kind of highly privileged or wealthy position which protects you. I can understand moderate jews who might be open minded about the nature of the problems in the ME, but I've yet to hear one who was a hard core Islamist apologist as you are. You know what the Koran calls Jews, don't you? And I've heard the pig and monkey comments repeated brazenly in public and without the batting of an eyelid by 'average muslims'.
And try to temper your language. You just sound rather coarse.
Is that perhaps a manipulative attempt to have this uncomfortable little thread shut down for you?
DPWN, if those T-Shirts in KL had sported a picture of a naked woman, they'd have been ripped down in seconds and the vendors arrested. Not so long ago Fashion Magazines on sale in Malaysia had every page individually censored with black marker to cover up any bare flesh! Talk about hypocrisy!
When it comes to 'average muslims' I'm tired of hearing the comments in the aftermath of terror attacks such as London has seen lately. 'I can't believe Mohammed did this - he was a nice quiet AVERAGE guy'. Seems to be the common denominator.
So you tell me - what IS an average muslim?
Better still - show us a website dedicated to 'average muslim' opinion and let us judge for ourselves - I'm sick of seeing insane jihadi drivellings everywhere I look.
And another thing.
At the height of the IRA bombing capaign in Britain, no Irish person would dare come onto a website like this and try to explain it away, much less verbally abuse those who challenged their views.
I think you should show a little more humility if you expect ANY sympathy around here at the moment.
I've noticed this to be a common reaction of muslims - they have such fixed world views that they just can't tolerate being contradicted. Try it on any muslim website and you'll be banned in seconds.
AMX10 - you say you are a Jew? I don't believe you, not for a second, not in a million years. Unless you are in some kind of highly privileged or wealthy position which protects you. I can understand moderate jews who might be open minded about the nature of the problems in the ME, but I've yet to hear one who was a hard core Islamist apologist as you are. You know what the Koran calls Jews, don't you? And I've heard the pig and monkey comments repeated brazenly in public and without the batting of an eyelid by 'average muslims'.
And try to temper your language. You just sound rather coarse.
Is that perhaps a manipulative attempt to have this uncomfortable little thread shut down for you?
DPWN, if those T-Shirts in KL had sported a picture of a naked woman, they'd have been ripped down in seconds and the vendors arrested. Not so long ago Fashion Magazines on sale in Malaysia had every page individually censored with black marker to cover up any bare flesh! Talk about hypocrisy!
When it comes to 'average muslims' I'm tired of hearing the comments in the aftermath of terror attacks such as London has seen lately. 'I can't believe Mohammed did this - he was a nice quiet AVERAGE guy'. Seems to be the common denominator.
So you tell me - what IS an average muslim?
Better still - show us a website dedicated to 'average muslim' opinion and let us judge for ourselves - I'm sick of seeing insane jihadi drivellings everywhere I look.
And another thing.
At the height of the IRA bombing capaign in Britain, no Irish person would dare come onto a website like this and try to explain it away, much less verbally abuse those who challenged their views.
I think you should show a little more humility if you expect ANY sympathy around here at the moment.
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Fitz Khara
Just as an indication of your ignorance Fitz whatever, jews have lived in this part of the world for centuries if not millenaries.
Now again to show how ignorant you are there are some local families in the region that are jewish, and your comments about Arabs are now just an indication of your complete ignorance and total bigotry.
Not to believe me is your own choice, and it's fine with me.
And so we continue:
No but I have a feeling I am going to find out soon from your enlightened perspective, enhanced withyour selective reading of history.
Just admit that you hate Arabs and muslims plain, and this is on apology.
Ignotant you are and you are happy living with it, if I were you, i'd be looking after my girlfriend (that's if you have one of course) as she might be enjoying the company of a circumsized Arab (or jew) while you are reading this.
[URL=http://www.americannaziparty.com/[/URL]
This is the link to follow when you find out.
Now again to show how ignorant you are there are some local families in the region that are jewish, and your comments about Arabs are now just an indication of your complete ignorance and total bigotry.
Not to believe me is your own choice, and it's fine with me.
And so we continue:
You know what the Koran calls Jews, don't you?
Just admit that you hate Arabs and muslims plain, and this is on apology.
Ignotant you are and you are happy living with it, if I were you, i'd be looking after my girlfriend (that's if you have one of course) as she might be enjoying the company of a circumsized Arab (or jew) while you are reading this.
[URL=http://www.americannaziparty.com/[/URL]
This is the link to follow when you find out.
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You are the habibi we are waiting for the mehdi of this world, without you we are dead, without you we don't eat, we miss you, come and see us, we love you!
Come to our coutry, we make you and your girlfriend happy, she will be very happy, too much men here for her! And not all pilots, they go in when you go out.
Call me we make an apoointment for your girlfriend. You can choose if you like between the Al Habtoor boys or the Al Maktoum depends how she looks.
And yes you are a pig, in Arabic we say Khanzeer, remember that word.
AMX PM me
You are the habibi we are waiting for the mehdi of this world, without you we are dead, without you we don't eat, we miss you, come and see us, we love you!
Come to our coutry, we make you and your girlfriend happy, she will be very happy, too much men here for her! And not all pilots, they go in when you go out.
Call me we make an apoointment for your girlfriend. You can choose if you like between the Al Habtoor boys or the Al Maktoum depends how she looks.
And yes you are a pig, in Arabic we say Khanzeer, remember that word.
AMX PM me
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Today the Arabs tomorrow the Jews another day it could be the Indians or wh knows, for you it's no different provided you are right in your wrongdoings.
Speaking from the promised land!
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Well well....it seems Ummah.Com is on a field trip.
My jihadi friends, you can come visit the shores of Erin anytime.
I guarentee you a warm welcome.
We know how to use AK-47's here too.
My jihadi friends, you can come visit the shores of Erin anytime.
I guarentee you a warm welcome.
We know how to use AK-47's here too.
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Maxalt;
Get a life and a pint of stout, both you and Fitz khara are racist pigs, and you expect to be treated with respect.
If that is how you like to live in Ireland we approve of it for you, why shall I accept your ignorant and bigotted views of the world.
Refuting and procrastinating is what Fitzgerald is doing so be it.
I have nothing to say to him really.
Open your own topic if you want and expose yourencyclopedia of Arabia as you see it and let's see where it will go, as far as this thread is concerned, nothing happened last week in the UAE despite your wishes and we are pleased.
Bye, bye
Get a life and a pint of stout, both you and Fitz khara are racist pigs, and you expect to be treated with respect.
If that is how you like to live in Ireland we approve of it for you, why shall I accept your ignorant and bigotted views of the world.
Refuting and procrastinating is what Fitzgerald is doing so be it.
I have nothing to say to him really.
Open your own topic if you want and expose yourencyclopedia of Arabia as you see it and let's see where it will go, as far as this thread is concerned, nothing happened last week in the UAE despite your wishes and we are pleased.
Bye, bye
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Ok, you are justifying all attrocities comitted by the terrorists, because of the intervention in Irak and in Afgan...
now let's go in pre-Irak conflict...
1979
Nov. 4, Tehran, Iran: Iranian radical students seized the U.S. embassy, taking 66 hostages. Fourteen were later released. The remaining 52 were freed after 444 days on the day of President Reagan's inauguration.
1982–1991
Lebanon: Thirty US and other Western hostages kidnapped in Lebanon by Hezbollah. Some were killed, some died in captivity, and some were eventually released. Terry Anderson was held for 2,454 days.
1983
April 18, Beirut, Lebanon: U.S. embassy destroyed in suicide car-bomb attack; 63 dead, including 17 Americans. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility.
Oct. 23, Beirut, Lebanon: Shiite suicide bombers exploded truck near U.S. military barracks at Beirut airport, killing 241 Marines. Minutes later a second bomb killed 58 French paratroopers in their barracks in West Beirut.
Dec. 12, Kuwait City, Kuwait Shiite truck bombers attacked the U.S. embassy and other targets, killing 5 and injuring 80.
1984
Sept. 20, east Beirut, Lebanon: truck bomb exploded outside the U.S. embassy annex, killing 24, including 2 U.S. military.
Dec. 3, Beirut, Lebanon: Kuwait Airways Flight 221, from Kuwait to Pakistan, hijacked and diverted to Tehran. Two Americans killed.
1985
April 12, Madrid, Spain: Bombing at restaurant frequented by U.S. soldiers, killed 18 Spaniards and injured 82.
June 14, Beirut, Lebanon: TWA flight 847 en route from Athens to Rome hijacked to Beirut by Hezbollah terrorists and held for 17 days. A U.S. Navy diver executed.
Oct. 7, Mediterranean Sea: gunmen attack Italian cruise ship, Achille Lauro. One U.S. tourist killed. Hijacking linked to Libya.
Dec. 18, Rome, Italy, and Vienna, Austria: airports in Rome and Vienna were bombed, killing 20 people, 5 of whom were Americans. Bombing linked to Libya.
1986
April 2, Athens, Greece:A bomb exploded aboard TWA flight 840 en route from Rome to Athens, killing 4 Americans and injuring 9.
April 5, West Berlin, Germany: Libyans bombed a disco frequented by U.S. servicemen, killing 2 and injuring hundreds.
1988
Dec. 21, Lockerbie, Scotland: N.Y.-bound Pan-Am Boeing 747 exploded in flight from a terrorist bomb and crashed into Scottish village, killing all 259 aboard and 11 on the ground. Passengers included 35 Syracuse University students and many U.S. military personnel. Libya formally admitted responsibility 15 years later (Aug. 2003) and offered $2.7 billion compensation to victims' families.
1993
Feb. 26, New York City: bomb exploded in basement garage of World Trade Center, killing 6 and injuring at least 1,040 others. In 1995, militant Islamist Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman and 9 others were convicted of conspiracy charges, and in 1998, Ramzi Yousef, believed to have been the mastermind, was convicted of the bombing. Al-Qaeda involvement is suspected.
1996
June 25, Dhahran, Saudi Arabia: truck bomb exploded outside Khobar Towers military complex, killing 19 American servicemen and injuring hundreds of others. Thirteen Saudis and a Lebanese, all alleged members of Islamic militant group Hezbollah, were indicted on charges relating to the attack in June 2001.
1998
Aug. 7, Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania: truck bombs exploded almost simultaneously near 2 U.S. embassies, killing 224 (213 in Kenya and 11 in Tanzania) and injuring about 4,500. Four men connected with al-Qaeda two of whom had received training at al-Qaeda camps inside Afghanistan, were convicted of the killings in May 2001 and later sentenced to life in prison. A federal grand jury had indicted 22 men in connection with the attacks, including Saudi dissident Osama bin Laden, who remained at large.
2000
Oct. 12, Aden, Yemen: U.S. Navy destroyer USS Cole heavily damaged when a small boat loaded with explosives blew up alongside it. Seventeen sailors killed. Linked to Osama bin Laden, or members of al-Qaeda terrorist network.
2001
Sept. 11, New York City, Arlington, Va., and Shanksville, Pa.: hijackers crashed two commercial jets into twin towers of World Trade Center; two more hijacked jets were crashed into the Pentagon and a field in rural Pa. Total dead and missing numbered 2,9921: 2,749 in New York City, 184 at the Pentagon, 40 in Pa., and 19 hijackers. Islamic al-Qaeda terrorist group blamed. (See September 11, 2001: Timeline of Terrorism.)
(please let me include sept.11, because the planning haved started 2 years before the attack...right in the middle of Clinton's administration)
OK...then now I want to see your justification for those one!!
now let's go in pre-Irak conflict...
1979
Nov. 4, Tehran, Iran: Iranian radical students seized the U.S. embassy, taking 66 hostages. Fourteen were later released. The remaining 52 were freed after 444 days on the day of President Reagan's inauguration.
1982–1991
Lebanon: Thirty US and other Western hostages kidnapped in Lebanon by Hezbollah. Some were killed, some died in captivity, and some were eventually released. Terry Anderson was held for 2,454 days.
1983
April 18, Beirut, Lebanon: U.S. embassy destroyed in suicide car-bomb attack; 63 dead, including 17 Americans. The Islamic Jihad claimed responsibility.
Oct. 23, Beirut, Lebanon: Shiite suicide bombers exploded truck near U.S. military barracks at Beirut airport, killing 241 Marines. Minutes later a second bomb killed 58 French paratroopers in their barracks in West Beirut.
Dec. 12, Kuwait City, Kuwait Shiite truck bombers attacked the U.S. embassy and other targets, killing 5 and injuring 80.
1984
Sept. 20, east Beirut, Lebanon: truck bomb exploded outside the U.S. embassy annex, killing 24, including 2 U.S. military.
Dec. 3, Beirut, Lebanon: Kuwait Airways Flight 221, from Kuwait to Pakistan, hijacked and diverted to Tehran. Two Americans killed.
1985
April 12, Madrid, Spain: Bombing at restaurant frequented by U.S. soldiers, killed 18 Spaniards and injured 82.
June 14, Beirut, Lebanon: TWA flight 847 en route from Athens to Rome hijacked to Beirut by Hezbollah terrorists and held for 17 days. A U.S. Navy diver executed.
Oct. 7, Mediterranean Sea: gunmen attack Italian cruise ship, Achille Lauro. One U.S. tourist killed. Hijacking linked to Libya.
Dec. 18, Rome, Italy, and Vienna, Austria: airports in Rome and Vienna were bombed, killing 20 people, 5 of whom were Americans. Bombing linked to Libya.
1986
April 2, Athens, Greece:A bomb exploded aboard TWA flight 840 en route from Rome to Athens, killing 4 Americans and injuring 9.
April 5, West Berlin, Germany: Libyans bombed a disco frequented by U.S. servicemen, killing 2 and injuring hundreds.
1988
Dec. 21, Lockerbie, Scotland: N.Y.-bound Pan-Am Boeing 747 exploded in flight from a terrorist bomb and crashed into Scottish village, killing all 259 aboard and 11 on the ground. Passengers included 35 Syracuse University students and many U.S. military personnel. Libya formally admitted responsibility 15 years later (Aug. 2003) and offered $2.7 billion compensation to victims' families.
1993
Feb. 26, New York City: bomb exploded in basement garage of World Trade Center, killing 6 and injuring at least 1,040 others. In 1995, militant Islamist Sheik Omar Abdel Rahman and 9 others were convicted of conspiracy charges, and in 1998, Ramzi Yousef, believed to have been the mastermind, was convicted of the bombing. Al-Qaeda involvement is suspected.
1996
June 25, Dhahran, Saudi Arabia: truck bomb exploded outside Khobar Towers military complex, killing 19 American servicemen and injuring hundreds of others. Thirteen Saudis and a Lebanese, all alleged members of Islamic militant group Hezbollah, were indicted on charges relating to the attack in June 2001.
1998
Aug. 7, Nairobi, Kenya, and Dar es Salaam, Tanzania: truck bombs exploded almost simultaneously near 2 U.S. embassies, killing 224 (213 in Kenya and 11 in Tanzania) and injuring about 4,500. Four men connected with al-Qaeda two of whom had received training at al-Qaeda camps inside Afghanistan, were convicted of the killings in May 2001 and later sentenced to life in prison. A federal grand jury had indicted 22 men in connection with the attacks, including Saudi dissident Osama bin Laden, who remained at large.
2000
Oct. 12, Aden, Yemen: U.S. Navy destroyer USS Cole heavily damaged when a small boat loaded with explosives blew up alongside it. Seventeen sailors killed. Linked to Osama bin Laden, or members of al-Qaeda terrorist network.
2001
Sept. 11, New York City, Arlington, Va., and Shanksville, Pa.: hijackers crashed two commercial jets into twin towers of World Trade Center; two more hijacked jets were crashed into the Pentagon and a field in rural Pa. Total dead and missing numbered 2,9921: 2,749 in New York City, 184 at the Pentagon, 40 in Pa., and 19 hijackers. Islamic al-Qaeda terrorist group blamed. (See September 11, 2001: Timeline of Terrorism.)
(please let me include sept.11, because the planning haved started 2 years before the attack...right in the middle of Clinton's administration)
OK...then now I want to see your justification for those one!!
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Billy 34:
Vietnam
Laos
Afghanistan
Iraq (15 years now)
This list is enought to show what ssort of a track the US have in the world.
What have they left behind?
You answer that and it is not civilisation.
Easy to point out, difficult to look at your own feces.
An Axe in the head of a black boy, A brickmin the head of a Bulgarian bartender, the Omagh bombing.......and the list goes on.
I think the Irish and English should sort their problems out first, but they always seem to find excuses to these prompts, the black boy was at the wrong place, the Bulgarian bartender did not understand or did not want to serve the hooligan, and the Irish are Irish; but between us we all know how racist the English are. They just think that it's ok for them to call indian rubbernecks, pakistanis pakis, locals double zeros etc...
They have their own pubs in the gulf where indians and Arabs are rarely allowed; but we will not call that racism and there is no reason for anyone to get upset when in thier own country they are refused entry into a pub.
What can I say loc old boy, it's going your way, AMX is not wrong in what he says, and that he is still being polite, I notice neither you or fitzcarr are, with your preconceived ideas that only arabs and muslims are behind today's ill's and problems.
With minds like yours, promoting yourselves as the epitome of humanity in the world today it is no wonder that that you see nothing else but your belly button.
Vietnam
Laos
Afghanistan
Iraq (15 years now)
This list is enought to show what ssort of a track the US have in the world.
What have they left behind?
You answer that and it is not civilisation.
Easy to point out, difficult to look at your own feces.
An Axe in the head of a black boy, A brickmin the head of a Bulgarian bartender, the Omagh bombing.......and the list goes on.
I think the Irish and English should sort their problems out first, but they always seem to find excuses to these prompts, the black boy was at the wrong place, the Bulgarian bartender did not understand or did not want to serve the hooligan, and the Irish are Irish; but between us we all know how racist the English are. They just think that it's ok for them to call indian rubbernecks, pakistanis pakis, locals double zeros etc...
They have their own pubs in the gulf where indians and Arabs are rarely allowed; but we will not call that racism and there is no reason for anyone to get upset when in thier own country they are refused entry into a pub.
What can I say loc old boy, it's going your way, AMX is not wrong in what he says, and that he is still being polite, I notice neither you or fitzcarr are, with your preconceived ideas that only arabs and muslims are behind today's ill's and problems.
With minds like yours, promoting yourselves as the epitome of humanity in the world today it is no wonder that that you see nothing else but your belly button.
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Loc Old Boy;
I do not need a mirror to read my posts, I can see them on the screen thanks for the advice old boy!
So you think I am racist? Not really after being called a muslim with head twisted wrong like all muslims, I find that what I had to say mild, considering I am not even muslim.
Fitz
Good man! Ireland and it's terrorism cannot possibly being envious of the ummah taking the limelight for it? is that why you are so angry after all?
Whatever the ideology, religious or politcal, killing is no excuse, so there is no reason to give the Irish, republican or unionists excuses as you do for "Ideological" reasons. Killing is killing and terrorism is terrorism. In the face of truth you lie again.
Speak tome when you have a whole country, at the moment Ireland is still divided, and as an Irishman you accept being in a British Dominion (Yes i can see you say! I am not British I am Irish) so sort out your country first.
Billy 34
What alist, you amaze me, but have you ever wondered why and oh how coincidental that these attacks are all geared towards the same Americans?
Perhaps that should answer your question, and if it doesn't, I suggest you go back to school and study some of the more contradictory US policies like the Monroe doctrine.
And when you speak of democracy please specify which one and for who? Greece and antiquity, Indian, English, French or American and what definition you have for democracy, big word, little meaning thruout history.
Maxalt,
I know better not to fly Rianair, being used to the real airlines of the world in the Meast including El AL, Ryan Air is cheap and nasty. If I were you, I wouldn't eve put the name on my profile even if they paid me. You are probably one of those drivers who never mustered the professional and social skills to get yourself a job with an outfit in the Middle East.
All your posts remind me just how racist most Westerners are.
Anyway, King Fahd has just been announced dead, he swallowed his Nikes to fast, shall we move and continue our arguments there? Or shall we stay here and respect the solemnity of the occasion.
I do not need a mirror to read my posts, I can see them on the screen thanks for the advice old boy!
So you think I am racist? Not really after being called a muslim with head twisted wrong like all muslims, I find that what I had to say mild, considering I am not even muslim.
Fitz
Good man! Ireland and it's terrorism cannot possibly being envious of the ummah taking the limelight for it? is that why you are so angry after all?
Whatever the ideology, religious or politcal, killing is no excuse, so there is no reason to give the Irish, republican or unionists excuses as you do for "Ideological" reasons. Killing is killing and terrorism is terrorism. In the face of truth you lie again.
Speak tome when you have a whole country, at the moment Ireland is still divided, and as an Irishman you accept being in a British Dominion (Yes i can see you say! I am not British I am Irish) so sort out your country first.
Billy 34
What alist, you amaze me, but have you ever wondered why and oh how coincidental that these attacks are all geared towards the same Americans?
Perhaps that should answer your question, and if it doesn't, I suggest you go back to school and study some of the more contradictory US policies like the Monroe doctrine.
And when you speak of democracy please specify which one and for who? Greece and antiquity, Indian, English, French or American and what definition you have for democracy, big word, little meaning thruout history.
Maxalt,
I know better not to fly Rianair, being used to the real airlines of the world in the Meast including El AL, Ryan Air is cheap and nasty. If I were you, I wouldn't eve put the name on my profile even if they paid me. You are probably one of those drivers who never mustered the professional and social skills to get yourself a job with an outfit in the Middle East.
All your posts remind me just how racist most Westerners are.
Anyway, King Fahd has just been announced dead, he swallowed his Nikes to fast, shall we move and continue our arguments there? Or shall we stay here and respect the solemnity of the occasion.
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