VISION THREAD (other than colour vision)
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It looks like the CAA s**t on you from FL3500! Passing a JAA recognized test and then getting a limited C1 - where did that come from??
I guess when you have your medicals now the CAA only do one eye test "well Mr 2close how many fingers do I hold up" and you reply "two in the shape of a V"
Double standards, no practical testing and more BS, how much longer must we endure this?
I guess when you have your medicals now the CAA only do one eye test "well Mr 2close how many fingers do I hold up" and you reply "two in the shape of a V"
Double standards, no practical testing and more BS, how much longer must we endure this?
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Pampas: go to Gatwick and get them to do an "eyes first" medical - that way if you can't get past Adrian you won't be put through (and charged for) the rest.
I'm no expert but I think your prescription might be classed as monovision which if true would rule you out as far as a JAA class 1 is concerned. You MUST get yourself checked out by Gatwick BEFORE you have LASIK.
That said, I was borderline but was passed last year: my left eye including astigmatism was -5.5 and my right eye was -6.25 BUT my corrected vision was way better than the required standard - I was 9/6 in each eye individually, so basically I got a pass because you could have depowered my right lens and I could still beat 6/6 ... its a rubbish standard.
As for LASIK, I had it done in December 2008 at the University of Miami's Bascom Palmer eye institute which is the #1 eye hospital in America. It cost $5000 and now I'm stable 20/15 in each eye and no halos, although the pupil dilating drops they gave me a week before the op gave me terrible starbursts that took at least a month to wear off. I did visit Dr. Giledi at the Centre For Sight at East Grinstead but I literally ran out of time to get the op done before I left the UK. I was told by my optician in Horsham not to get it done anywhere else in the UK.
If you have the option of working in the USA, the current FAA rules no longer have any restriction on pre-operative refraction. I am told this is because you are highly unlikely to meet the standard post-op if your eyesight is really terrible. In the US, if you had LASIK and are halo free and stable 6/6 or better afterwards you are in.
To make sure I can get a CAA class 1 at a future date (i.e. if there is any point in doing so ... seems unlikely TBH) I went back to Gatwick in April this year to see Adrian again and he passed me post-op - like I said, 6/6 isn't much of a standard to beat.
I'm no expert but I think your prescription might be classed as monovision which if true would rule you out as far as a JAA class 1 is concerned. You MUST get yourself checked out by Gatwick BEFORE you have LASIK.
That said, I was borderline but was passed last year: my left eye including astigmatism was -5.5 and my right eye was -6.25 BUT my corrected vision was way better than the required standard - I was 9/6 in each eye individually, so basically I got a pass because you could have depowered my right lens and I could still beat 6/6 ... its a rubbish standard.
As for LASIK, I had it done in December 2008 at the University of Miami's Bascom Palmer eye institute which is the #1 eye hospital in America. It cost $5000 and now I'm stable 20/15 in each eye and no halos, although the pupil dilating drops they gave me a week before the op gave me terrible starbursts that took at least a month to wear off. I did visit Dr. Giledi at the Centre For Sight at East Grinstead but I literally ran out of time to get the op done before I left the UK. I was told by my optician in Horsham not to get it done anywhere else in the UK.
If you have the option of working in the USA, the current FAA rules no longer have any restriction on pre-operative refraction. I am told this is because you are highly unlikely to meet the standard post-op if your eyesight is really terrible. In the US, if you had LASIK and are halo free and stable 6/6 or better afterwards you are in.
To make sure I can get a CAA class 1 at a future date (i.e. if there is any point in doing so ... seems unlikely TBH) I went back to Gatwick in April this year to see Adrian again and he passed me post-op - like I said, 6/6 isn't much of a standard to beat.
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Hi!
Does anyone know the limits for an initial in Belgium (class 1)?
Read all the 40 pages but couldn't find anything.
I know that it's -6D in the UK and I'm just within the limits,just wondering if it's the same in Belgium...
Tried to call their center today but couldn't get any answer.
Thanks!
Does anyone know the limits for an initial in Belgium (class 1)?
Read all the 40 pages but couldn't find anything.
I know that it's -6D in the UK and I'm just within the limits,just wondering if it's the same in Belgium...
Tried to call their center today but couldn't get any answer.
Thanks!
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RMC your son will be fine, and should pass the vision test no problems.
There is a form you can print from the website that you can take to the opticians, get the optician to go through it and you'll get your answer as passing the eye test is more than just meeting perscription requirements.
If he want to be a pilot, then as long as he is old enough, go get the medical now. I, and i know of a few others who wish they would have got the C1 medical sooner rather than later, can make life so much easier.
There is a form you can print from the website that you can take to the opticians, get the optician to go through it and you'll get your answer as passing the eye test is more than just meeting perscription requirements.
If he want to be a pilot, then as long as he is old enough, go get the medical now. I, and i know of a few others who wish they would have got the C1 medical sooner rather than later, can make life so much easier.
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The whole CAD test remote control thing makes one wonder if a youth spent being weened on Sonic the Hedgehog and Street Fighter II wasn't wasted after all...
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Hi, even after getting 1 Plate wrong you have passed you did not have to sit any other tests. It still seems that these testers make there own rules up makes you wonder how many of them want you to pass.
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Thought some people might be interested in the following link
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/49/2009061...rCMOsForum.pdf
To get in touch with the City Uni
Applied Vision Research Centre
http://www.caa.co.uk/docs/49/2009061...rCMOsForum.pdf
To get in touch with the City Uni
Applied Vision Research Centre
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The UK CAA should accept the anomalascope results if they are within JAA standards as it is a recognised JAA test.
The CAD test has not yet been accepted so they can only give you an idea that you will pass or fail IF the CAD test is ever adopted and using their accepted limits as present.
ponte give them hell to accept the anomalascope results - they WILL accept City Uni results, but they MUST be within JAA standards.
The CAD test has not yet been accepted so they can only give you an idea that you will pass or fail IF the CAD test is ever adopted and using their accepted limits as present.
ponte give them hell to accept the anomalascope results - they WILL accept City Uni results, but they MUST be within JAA standards.
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I have always had trouble relating the anomalascope results to JAA standards, but the City Uni should be able to tell you.
I have heard that the Dr in Spiez is very thorough and will do an anomalascope test anyhow.
Good luck with it and please share your experiences with us all.
Did you have any trouble getting an appointment in Spiez? all I got in the past was an answer phone message in German, so I never did get to go.
I have heard that the Dr in Spiez is very thorough and will do an anomalascope test anyhow.
Good luck with it and please share your experiences with us all.
Did you have any trouble getting an appointment in Spiez? all I got in the past was an answer phone message in German, so I never did get to go.
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Hey,
I did my class one medical i was asked to read the 4th line which was fine and 5th line which i did but with some strain. However i couldn't read the bottom line. Could anyone guess, to tell me what my eye-sight is?
I did my class one medical i was asked to read the 4th line which was fine and 5th line which i did but with some strain. However i couldn't read the bottom line. Could anyone guess, to tell me what my eye-sight is?
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Glaucoma...
Appreciate any experiences / advice on this.
I was recently diagnosed with acute glaucoma (sometimes called closed angle or narrow angle Glaucoma). Apparently its a sudden condition (symptoms are blurred vision + headaches) which needs immediate treatment. I was seen by the local hospital (specialist eye clinic with a good reputation) and was operated on within 72 hours (YAG lazer). The CAA has temporarily suspended my Class2 until the results of my peripheral eye test and follow-up meeting with the consultant next month.
Anyone else had this or know what the chances are on getting my class2 back?
Appreciate any experiences / advice.
Thanks.
I was recently diagnosed with acute glaucoma (sometimes called closed angle or narrow angle Glaucoma). Apparently its a sudden condition (symptoms are blurred vision + headaches) which needs immediate treatment. I was seen by the local hospital (specialist eye clinic with a good reputation) and was operated on within 72 hours (YAG lazer). The CAA has temporarily suspended my Class2 until the results of my peripheral eye test and follow-up meeting with the consultant next month.
Anyone else had this or know what the chances are on getting my class2 back?
Appreciate any experiences / advice.
Thanks.
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"I did my class one medical i was asked to read the 4th line which was fine and 5th line which i did but with some strain. However i couldn't read the bottom line. Could anyone guess, to tell me what my eye-sight is?"
Depends on the chart but I think the 5th line would normally be 20/15 or 6/4.5 which is fine for JAR or FAA class 1. The doc at Bascom Palmer tells me the military pilots she has seen are all 20/10 (6/3) - they can read the bottom line with no problems. Even after $5k of surgery I cant read that line at all.
Depends on the chart but I think the 5th line would normally be 20/15 or 6/4.5 which is fine for JAR or FAA class 1. The doc at Bascom Palmer tells me the military pilots she has seen are all 20/10 (6/3) - they can read the bottom line with no problems. Even after $5k of surgery I cant read that line at all.
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You can get in touch with City Uni here Applied Vision Research Centre or try emailing this lady who is part of the research [email protected]
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CAA class 1 medical (specifically Visual Field test)
Hi,
Ive always wanted to be a pilot since i can remember. Ive been working hard and saving money for the last few years but ive got a serious problem which may put a serious dent in my plans.
Ive worn glasses since i was about 14 years old. The actual vision is only -1.5 in both eyes, so nothing major. Ive know to myself that i was weak in left eye but i assumed that its because im right handed/right footed etc.
so about six months ago, i was about to put my modular plans into action and i went to my Optician for a quick check up. They put me in one of those Visual Field tests and my left eye has about 60% view.
So i got referred to a opthalmist who checked my eyes inside and out and found no physical problem with them. I got transferred to a neurosurgeon who put me through an MRI and it was found that my nerve in the left eye was not developed as it should have been but ive led normal life (driving, sports etc) because my brain is used to only what i see because i was born with the crappy nerve.
I need to ask, in the CAA class 1 medica. what kind of visual test do they do? and more importantly, when it comes to possible airline medicals for jobs, how in depth do they check Visual field?
thanks in advance and sorry for the long post.
Ive always wanted to be a pilot since i can remember. Ive been working hard and saving money for the last few years but ive got a serious problem which may put a serious dent in my plans.
Ive worn glasses since i was about 14 years old. The actual vision is only -1.5 in both eyes, so nothing major. Ive know to myself that i was weak in left eye but i assumed that its because im right handed/right footed etc.
so about six months ago, i was about to put my modular plans into action and i went to my Optician for a quick check up. They put me in one of those Visual Field tests and my left eye has about 60% view.
So i got referred to a opthalmist who checked my eyes inside and out and found no physical problem with them. I got transferred to a neurosurgeon who put me through an MRI and it was found that my nerve in the left eye was not developed as it should have been but ive led normal life (driving, sports etc) because my brain is used to only what i see because i was born with the crappy nerve.
I need to ask, in the CAA class 1 medica. what kind of visual test do they do? and more importantly, when it comes to possible airline medicals for jobs, how in depth do they check Visual field?
thanks in advance and sorry for the long post.
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the eye test is the main part of the medical renewal when ive done them. you have to get one every year/6 months depending how old you are. other checks like hearing and you heart are done every 5 years i think.
best thing you can do is go and do your class one medical and see what happens. its best to do it before spending any money on flight training as if there is a problem, atleast you have not blown any money away on flying already.
try going through the medical forum as well. im sure there must be a few posts around somewhere in there for you.
best thing you can do is go and do your class one medical and see what happens. its best to do it before spending any money on flight training as if there is a problem, atleast you have not blown any money away on flying already.
try going through the medical forum as well. im sure there must be a few posts around somewhere in there for you.
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Visual Field requirements?
Hi guys, ive always wanted to be a pilot but im born with a nerve that is underdeveloped. My visual field is therefore rubbish (about 60%) in my left eye. I never noticed this as i was born with it and my right eye has compensated since birth.
This is going to sound stupid but i though as i was right handed, my right eye was stronger than my left eye but ive got it checked out by a neurosurgeon who told me that it wont get worse but it will never improve.
Do i have a chance (even a teeny weeny small one) of passing the Class 1 in the UK or should i thank Mother Nature for screwing up my lifelong dream. I have to admit when i found out that there was no chance of improvement in my case, i felt as if my whole life crashed around me.
This is going to sound stupid but i though as i was right handed, my right eye was stronger than my left eye but ive got it checked out by a neurosurgeon who told me that it wont get worse but it will never improve.
Do i have a chance (even a teeny weeny small one) of passing the Class 1 in the UK or should i thank Mother Nature for screwing up my lifelong dream. I have to admit when i found out that there was no chance of improvement in my case, i felt as if my whole life crashed around me.
Your best course of action is to speak to the CAA medical division. They may want to see you before giving a decision. But for goodness sake, don't base any career decisions on heresay or what unqualified people tell you, even if it is well intentioned.