norton2005

World, i don't no your situation so i don't no if this will affect you. PM me with some details about yourself (eg prescription) and i can hopefully answer any questions you may have.

world

Thanx, any way i am -2.50 with -1.5 cyl, so this doesnt affect me, but the military does and i think its going to relax in few years......

Regards,
world

FutureCaptain

I have had an ambition to become a commercial pilot for many years. I visited an opticians at the weekend and was told that I was outside the boundaries. I was told my prescription of -6.25 in both eyes was too high for the -5.00 boundries(i understand they are now -6.00) Ive sent an e-mail to JMr Chorley of the CAA for information on becoming a pilot in other countries and their vision rules. I have a slight stigmatism(0.25) i think and am very mildly asthmatic.

I already know that America, Canada, South Africa and Hong Kong will accept me for the JAR equivalent course. Are there any other countries that will? and are the rules in the UK likelyt to change in the near future, baring in mind that I am fifteen years old and wont be flying for at least six years (I plan to get a degree so I can fall back on something)?

NurseToPilot

Optician said this is not true.. I do not have excessive 'anisometropia' and he has proved it by converting my prescription into whats known as PLUS CYL from MINUS CYL as follows:

Original MINUS CYL PX =
+2.00 -3.50 22.5 - Right Eye
-1.75 -0.50 180 - Left Eye

NEW EXACT SAME Prescription but in PLUS CYL =

-1.50 +3.50 112.5 - Right Eye
-1.75 +0.50 90 - Left Eye

The Anisometropia now only shows as 0.25 which is well within the limits!

The only thing I am awaiting answers on now is whether my Astigmatism of 3.50 will completely stop me from carrying on...

The new rules wording does however say that for astigmatism i would have to have a eye test every two years... "for those with astigmatism of 3.00 or more diopters"

Key word here being "or more" - suggesting there is some discression involved!

Here is hoping!

JON

G_STRING

I know that when you go for your initial class 1 at Gatwick, you have a comprehensive eye examination, including colour vision testing, etc..

What I'd like to know is, when they do the actual test on your visual acuity, do they have access to the same sort of equipment for testing as your optometrist/optician. For example, do they put the 'headgear' on, and then test you with varous lenses from scratch, or do they simply test you with your own glasses, and accept an up-to-date prescription from your optician.

Also, is it possible to attend at Gatwick to just initially have the vision part of the class 1 done - (to save on expense of the rest of the medical if you should fail the vision part)

cheers

LastMinute

N2P:

I'm not going to dispute what an optician has told you. Clearly I have misunderstood what the prescription means and how anisometropia is calculated.

Apologies for causing confusion.

As always, the proper advice is: Send your prescription to the CAA, not an Internet forum!

G/A

sorry guys, hope this one works better

http://www.city.ac.uk/avrc/members/j...lour_study.pdf

world

Last Minute, i thing rerlus and minus are totaly different...... so i guess that difference for example beetwean -2.00 and +2.00 is 4.

FutureCaptain, I thing that there are no diopter standards in Australia,
and if you are from UK than you dont need a visa.
Rules for Pakistan and Malaysia also dont have uncorrected standards.
In Taiwan 80 % of people are shortsighted, but I am not sure for their standards. In some countries they dont accept even with 0.25 D and i will never understand why.

World

FutureCaptain

I will have a look, in the meantime, anyone kn ow if the boundaries are likely to change again soon

Tamesy1

At the Absolute earliest this time next year. It is more likely to be 2 or 3 years when the EASA gets it act together

Rogal

Hi guys,
Anyone passed anomaloscope test? Have you practical advices? This is most important test for 1st class in poland. I have never seen anomaloscope, so I'm little scared...

Regards

2close

Hi Rogal,

The news is not good, I'm afraid.

The anomaloscope is the gold standard as far as colour vision testing goes.

You will have to look through an eye-piece at a circle split into two halves, a top semi-circle and a bottom semi-circle.

You will be expected to match the two semi-circles so they look the same. This will be done using various hues and saturations and you will be 'scored' based on the settings you use to 'match' the colours.

This is a very difficult test to pass and many colour normal persons apparently fall outside the limits set by the JAA.

I would try an alternative test if I were you.

HTH

2close

DJED

Hi Everyone

Just thought id drop a note to report about my results after being tested at the city uni research centre. The results are not good. I apparently failed all of the tests, althought there was no mention of the PAPI test, which i did, or farnsworth d15 test. So from those results, i have a few questions. I have already been to get an FAA and CASA medical and all i need to get a full unrestricted class one is to pass an advanced colour test, but after failing the city uni tests, are there any other tests which i might pass. This is my question to you guys.

Thank you for your time

Any info is gratefully received

Ed

WrongWayCorrigan

You could get it done in Hong Kong. Private Message if you want details.

Strobe lights

Hi WrongWayCorrigan.. could you tell us how is the lantern test in HK?

Thanks

G/A

no problem strobe lights.

Today I was at Schipohl KLM AMC for the H.-W. Lanterntest but didnīt pass . So I am also thinking about performing the spectrolux lanterntest and would also be interested in some infos about the test.

regards
G/A

whitelabel

Hi G/A

Are you still in amterdam??

There are 2 different AMC's with different colour vision tests in the Schiphol area. You went to the KLM aeromed (H-W) but there is also AEC (like Beyne) around corner (http://www.alc-srv.com/)
The people here are really nice and they try to help you with all recources the have.

The third one is (http://www.aviationmedical.com/) also at Schiphol, but for an Anomaloscope you need to go the establishment in Utrecht

ALC is the best and the other 2 are acceptable.

greetz

eject

Can anyone give me Mr Chorley's email address or would I be better addressing my enquiry to a general office email address or fax. Thanks.

G/A

Hi whitelabel,

no iīm not anymore in amsterdam, got back right after the test. But now I am thinking about going to amsterdam for the test you said. But first I have to know if the ALC is accpeted by the Luftfarhtbundesamt here in Germany. Does anyone know this? Otherwise it wouldnīt make sense to go there.
Anyway thanks for the advise.


greets G/A

whitelabel

Hi G/A

All the AMC's are accepted by JAA. You can give them a call if you have some questions. They speak English and maybe German also.

numbers:

Aeromedical Expert Centre: 0031-(0)23-5572555
you can send an e-mail also: [email protected] (optomologist)

Aviation Medical Center: 0031-(0)800-4212121

Good luck and do not hesitate to ask questions

kind regards