VISION THREAD (other than colour vision)
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If I have -9 (sph-6 cyl-3) refractive error on each eye, and I can read 20/20 using -6 correction lens, its this fine?
I mean, doesn't it matter the -9 as long as you can read 20/20, with no more than -6 (up to 2 cyl) diopters correction?
Thnaks.
I mean, doesn't it matter the -9 as long as you can read 20/20, with no more than -6 (up to 2 cyl) diopters correction?
Thnaks.
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Complete info for NZ testing is here: http://www.caa.govt.nz/fulltext/medical/2-1-Eye.pdf page 41 onwards
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Medical After Laser Eye Surgery
Hi everybody
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Is there anyone who made it thru medical class 1 after laser eye surgery
? How bad was your vision before the surgery and how good was its result? I myself underwent such surgery (abbreviated PRK) 13 years ago and it changed my refraction on both eyes from -7 to -1.25 diopters (stabilized). Since the limit for aspiring pilots with myopia to pass the vision requirements at initial medical class 1 are -6 to +5 diopters before surgery(!) I am definitely disqualified
...unless I lie to examining doctor and say that my refraction before PRK was -5 diopters or so. Any chance to get away with such lie?
Thanks for any opinions and helpful information. Good luck at your medicals
.
Petr, Czech Republic.
,Is there anyone who made it thru medical class 1 after laser eye surgery
? How bad was your vision before the surgery and how good was its result? I myself underwent such surgery (abbreviated PRK) 13 years ago and it changed my refraction on both eyes from -7 to -1.25 diopters (stabilized). Since the limit for aspiring pilots with myopia to pass the vision requirements at initial medical class 1 are -6 to +5 diopters before surgery(!) I am definitely disqualified...unless I lie to examining doctor and say that my refraction before PRK was -5 diopters or so. Any chance to get away with such lie?Thanks for any opinions and helpful information. Good luck at your medicals
.Petr, Czech Republic.
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Proposed EASA IR
According to the EASA NPA it will no longer be possible for a color "unsafe" to get an IR since the night qualification is required and the nq requires the license holder to be color safe. Has anybody else noticed this? (I did comment that the IR should at least be available as daytime only for CVD pilots) If anybody has connections into the FCL008 group they should try to get this option inserted already from the beginning.
Anyhow, maybe one should hurry before the new regulations enter into effect?
From the thread I gather that some people have managed to get the nq with a safety pilot for the solo part and then gone on to the IR. Has somebody managed this in Sweden or are we talking UK only? Translation and interpretation of the JAR is not always the same (and as far as I understand the JAR is not really applied currently). Any advice as to how one goes about getting the nq in practice would be much appreciated!
Anyhow, maybe one should hurry before the new regulations enter into effect?
From the thread I gather that some people have managed to get the nq with a safety pilot for the solo part and then gone on to the IR. Has somebody managed this in Sweden or are we talking UK only? Translation and interpretation of the JAR is not always the same (and as far as I understand the JAR is not really applied currently). Any advice as to how one goes about getting the nq in practice would be much appreciated!
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An sph of -6 would be acceptable, but a cyl of -3 would not as this does not fit the criteria for JAA.
Not really up with FAA, but have been told that you can be over the JAA limits as long as you can read 6/6 or 20/20 with the FAA C1.
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I thought you have to take you pre-laser optician reports? I would be interested to know on this one?
If you have "lost" you pre-laser reports you cant give them. Not sure if they would keep your records for 13 years?
I dont think it would be possible to determine your pre-laser vision? or would it?
I bet they can tell you have had laser, but can they?
If they can tell you have had laser and you dont have pre-op documents they may just refuse you on that.
I think this is an interesting situation.
Not really up with FAA, but have been told that you can be over the JAA limits as long as you can read 6/6 or 20/20 with the FAA C1.
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I thought you have to take you pre-laser optician reports? I would be interested to know on this one?
If you have "lost" you pre-laser reports you cant give them. Not sure if they would keep your records for 13 years?
I dont think it would be possible to determine your pre-laser vision? or would it?
I bet they can tell you have had laser, but can they?
If they can tell you have had laser and you dont have pre-op documents they may just refuse you on that.
I think this is an interesting situation.
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RAF leniency?
Although the RAF state that decent eyesight is obviously required to work for them as a Pilot, they state that their selection process works on a case-by-case basis. I am short sighted in both eyes; my contact lens prescription is -1.5, don't know what my glasses are (if they are different). I'm 17 years old.
I would guess that this means I'm a nono for the eurofighter but do they still take on for rotary and transport? Is there any leniency for small-to-medium short sightedness if your proficiencies in other areas make up for it?
I would guess that this means I'm a nono for the eurofighter but do they still take on for rotary and transport? Is there any leniency for small-to-medium short sightedness if your proficiencies in other areas make up for it?
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Question
Hi guys!
This is my first post here and like the most of you I am wondering if I can get a JAA class I medical.
I have high degree of myopia (nearsightedness: can see near objects clearly but distant ones blurred) with my contact lenses prescription as followed:
R - 4,5 (let's say it's 5.0)
L - 5,5 (let's say it's 6.0)
Since I can't get a reply from any portuguese AME or other authority, could someone clearly say to me if I am within the limits?
The JAR-FCL 3 talks about a limit at the initial exam of -6.00 to +5.00
the -6.00 is relative to myopia or to hyperopia (long-sightedness)?
Will I make it?
Thanks in advance.
Best regards,
-Miguel (PT)
This is my first post here and like the most of you I am wondering if I can get a JAA class I medical.
I have high degree of myopia (nearsightedness: can see near objects clearly but distant ones blurred) with my contact lenses prescription as followed:
R - 4,5 (let's say it's 5.0)
L - 5,5 (let's say it's 6.0)
Since I can't get a reply from any portuguese AME or other authority, could someone clearly say to me if I am within the limits?
The JAR-FCL 3 talks about a limit at the initial exam of -6.00 to +5.00
the -6.00 is relative to myopia or to hyperopia (long-sightedness)?
Will I make it?
Thanks in advance.
Best regards,
-Miguel (PT)
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Who reckons I can appeal Against CAA decision. To the Cheif Medical Advisor.
Left Eye: 6.00D 6/18 Right Eye: 6/3 D5.25
Its worth the try? Then I can do my JAR PPL Instead of an NPPL and get night ratings etc?
And Ive just noticed Substandard vision in one eye
Professional pilots
Currently under review.
Private pilots
Currently under review.
If you have substandard vision in one eye due to amblyopia (a ‘lazy’ eye), you can gain a Class 2 certificate if the visual acuity in the ‘bad’ eye is no worse than 6/18 and the visual acuity in the ‘good’ eye is 6/6 or better, which can be with correction.
Its worth the try? Then I can do my JAR PPL Instead of an NPPL and get night ratings etc?
And Ive just noticed Substandard vision in one eye
Professional pilots
Currently under review.
Private pilots
Currently under review.
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Hi all mates,
I would like to remark what Dr. Arthut Pape posted. He was very useful and has lot of experience in Australia and colorvision tests.
We should create a color defective pilot list and gather against currency regulations; all of us who has this color problems know for sure that we can safely flight every airplane at day or night, even better than most of pilots do.
I can't understand how different are the standars in each country; flying an airplane is the same anywhere. ICAO should work HARDER on this.
US allow pilots to take a signal light test at the airports... I would like to know how many pilots use this lights nowadays, many of them don't even remember what colors mean. This signal lights where used in the beginning of aviation where airplanes don't have radios. It can't never be used in IFR conditions and i can assure you that pilots approaching an airport can't even see this tiny lights from the tower.
Keep posting and disscussing this topic; if we stop, the world aviation will lose millions of incredible and passionate pilots.
Daniel
I would like to remark what Dr. Arthut Pape posted. He was very useful and has lot of experience in Australia and colorvision tests.
We should create a color defective pilot list and gather against currency regulations; all of us who has this color problems know for sure that we can safely flight every airplane at day or night, even better than most of pilots do.
I can't understand how different are the standars in each country; flying an airplane is the same anywhere. ICAO should work HARDER on this.
US allow pilots to take a signal light test at the airports... I would like to know how many pilots use this lights nowadays, many of them don't even remember what colors mean. This signal lights where used in the beginning of aviation where airplanes don't have radios. It can't never be used in IFR conditions and i can assure you that pilots approaching an airport can't even see this tiny lights from the tower.
Keep posting and disscussing this topic; if we stop, the world aviation will lose millions of incredible and passionate pilots.
Daniel
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for those interested in LASIK watch out the video on the link below:
GOOD LUCK FELLAS...........!!!
GOOD LUCK FELLAS...........!!!
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Has anyone here had Neurovision treatment for amblyopia?
my eyes are 6/6 (20/20) 6/12 (20/40)
From what I've been reading, theres not meeant to be a whole lot you can do about it, and this seems too good to be true if it does whats it supposed to do.
my eyes are 6/6 (20/20) 6/12 (20/40)
From what I've been reading, theres not meeant to be a whole lot you can do about it, and this seems too good to be true if it does whats it supposed to do.
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Some people incorrectly believe that women cannot be color-blind. Doctors know better, but bureaucrats may not, so I was curious.
The online sample of the new test is interesting. It seems pretty objective. I hope it is administered on carefully calibrated equipment.
The online sample of the new test is interesting. It seems pretty objective. I hope it is administered on carefully calibrated equipment.
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Laser Eye Surgery for current airline pilots
Hi all
I have a JAA CPL and current UK CAA class 1 medical. I fly for an airline but have a window of no flying and am thinking of getting laser eye surgery at Moorfields Eye Hospital.
Can anyone who is a current airline pilot please comment on their experiences with getting their eyes fixed with laser and work etc?
I have read the caa document stating my medical will be suspended for 3 months if I have lasik so I just want to hear from other people on this.
Thanks very much
Will
I have a JAA CPL and current UK CAA class 1 medical. I fly for an airline but have a window of no flying and am thinking of getting laser eye surgery at Moorfields Eye Hospital.
Can anyone who is a current airline pilot please comment on their experiences with getting their eyes fixed with laser and work etc?
I have read the caa document stating my medical will be suspended for 3 months if I have lasik so I just want to hear from other people on this.
Thanks very much
Will
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Class 1 Eyesight...requirements unclear
Evening all,
I am about to go for my class 1 medical but i have astigmatism
The requirements state that you have vision of 6/9 each eye and 6/6 together, and that refractive error must not excede 2 dioptres for astigmatism.
My question is that with the maximum allowable correction, i do achieve the required vision however my full prescripition is larger than 2 dioptres astigmatism....will this be an issue..or will i be ok as long as i can read the letters with less than my full prescription such that i'm in limits.
Many Thanks
I am about to go for my class 1 medical but i have astigmatism
The requirements state that you have vision of 6/9 each eye and 6/6 together, and that refractive error must not excede 2 dioptres for astigmatism.
My question is that with the maximum allowable correction, i do achieve the required vision however my full prescripition is larger than 2 dioptres astigmatism....will this be an issue..or will i be ok as long as i can read the letters with less than my full prescription such that i'm in limits.
Many Thanks
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Some good news if your refractive error is outside the +5 limit
I have just been informed that the "limit" +5 for refractive error, might be changed in the not so distant future. A chief medical JAA doctor informed me this in writing. So for you who are outside those limits, there is a light at the end of the tunnel. And if you are border line, now is the time to go for it, before EASA takes over.
It was from a chief medical abroad, + I know from first hand information that UK CAA also are working to get the refractive error limitiations removed, and make it more similar the FAA.
Again the wording is maybe maybe, but the glass is half full, and not half empty.
It was from a chief medical abroad, + I know from first hand information that UK CAA also are working to get the refractive error limitiations removed, and make it more similar the FAA.
Again the wording is maybe maybe, but the glass is half full, and not half empty.