NurseToPilot

WHy have you got a Deviation?

I've received a Class 1 Last year following LASIK and have no deviation

My Prescription is within CAA LIMITS after lasik - My Astigmatism is less than -0.50 Diopters

I had a renewal done in July with no problems

JON

phillipsmw

I have a deviation because my pre-op refraction in my left eye (-6.00/-1.00) was outside the class 1 limitation of -6.0.

NurseToPilot

for myopia not astigmatism...that makes sense

i was astigmatism -3.75D before and -0.50 after but astigmatism does not carry the risk of retinal detachment as does myopia.....

i think this is why you have a deviation then, but correct me if I'm wrong!


JON

phillipsmw

True. There is no for pre-op limit for astigmatism, only for the total refractive error: +5.0 to -6.0

PPRuNeUser0161

Jabout
At the moment there is no way you can use glasses or contacts or indeed any type of CV correction. IMHO there will be a day when you will be able to use CV correction provide that the correction is of a type that can be worn in the cockpit at all times while flying and allows you to pass all vision tests. We are far from this point at this time and I doubt that it will be available in my career. A lot of work is being done in this arear though.

JJRMAD

Hi everyone,
Some weeks ago I was at the Spanish medical center CIMA to do the First Class Medical, all went very well but at the oftalmologic test I could see in my report paper a note wich made me get worried and it said: Hyperphoria 4 dioptres. Then the specialist made me some tests more:

- He stared at my eyes with a light to do the cover test
- I put a glasses with a red lense in one of my eyes and a green lense in the other one, and then I looked to a book to test my stereoscopic vision, everything was well, I could see the typical circles, triangles, butterflies in relief.
- Finally I put my head in something where he stared again at my eyes to measure my ocular tension, asthenopia, and everything was ok again.
Then he put a tick in the gap which said "Normal vergence and fusional perception"

In the JAR-FCL said that I MAY be issued a medical certificate if fusional is ok but depends on what the doctor decides, not who made me the test, another one I couldn't see and who finally decides if I pass or not. My results will be sent me in one or two month, they don't tell you nothing on the same day becasue "results must be evaluated and it takes some time". So now I'm a little worried about this problem I don't know if finally I'll be issued.

Anybody have a similar experience and could tell me what happened??

Thanks in advanced.

PD: Other parameters during my test were:
Visual acuity 1 both eyes and 1 on each eye.
Myopia 1 diopter on each eye
Astigmatism 0,5 on right eye
No tropies.
Good vision of colors.
No surgeries
No significant patologies

Kestral757

Hi Guys,

Can anyone please put my mind at ease and tell me if my eyesight will met the inital requirments for the class 1?

R Sph -3.75 Cyl -0.25 Axis 95
L Sph -3.25 Cyl -0.75 Axis 75

I had a contact lense check up recently and that increased R to -4.00, L -3.75

Thanks

JJRMAD

Hi vestu,

I have the same doubt. See just two post above what I wrote about my experience.

Have you been at CAA Medical Center at Gatwick yet?
They luckily tell you enough info to know about your assesment and specifically on the eye tests the same day you go there. Here in Spain we have to wait "until docs decides within 40 or 50 days since your exmination"

Mickey Kaye

YES

Hi Guys,

Can anyone please put my mind at ease and tell me if my eyesight will met the inital requirments for the class 1?

R Sph -3.75 Cyl -0.25 Axis 95
L Sph -3.25 Cyl -0.75 Axis 75

I had a contact lense check up recently and that increased R to -4.00, L -3.75

Thanks

pdidi

Mr. Pape

I salut you!!!!
You are one of my heros when I heard about you some 10 years ago.

Paraman1

tigermagicjohn

just out of interest what was your pre-op error?, iam in a similar position and very confused. My prescription from my optician is R=sph -3.25 cyl -1.5 and L= sph -3.25 cyl -2.0 which reading the guidlines would just pass me, however i went to a lasik clinic and was told my astigmatism was -3.0 and -2.75 (sph remained the same)which would obviously not pass the class 1 if i went through with the surgery.

Does anybody know exactly how your eyes are tested for the class 1, is it similar to opticians or do they use topography scanning like at the lasik clinics?

Many thanks

Paraman1

Mickey Kaye

looking at the caa eyesight data I would say you were well within the limits

bmw-rated

Good eve!
Could anyone confirm that this is correct?

Is it still accepted in Australia or anywhere else?

Is there any other accepted way to practically demonstrate the ability to "perform all air man duties safety"? How? Will it remain allowed?

best wishes to everyone

dcvdriver

hey?

would casa accept a letter proving that i passed a tower test done in usa without further examinations?
or would i have to repeat the exam in australia?

thanks

driver

bmw-rated

thanks a lot for the answere,
does anyone know if there are plans to change that? (Fedex Crash......)

best wishes

dtk300

My Current vision prescription is:

Left eye -5.00 diopters
Right eye -5.50 diopters

I did my class 1 medical a week ago in Dublin, Ireland. The opth wrote down on the file:

Left eye -5.75
Right eye -6.00

THEY ARE NOT THE PRESCRIPTION IN MY GLASSES!

I am afraid i will fail the class 1 now because of that. I have confimed with my opth in Ireland who is a Professor in eyesight since 1986. I think he knows what he's doing. What should I do if i fail? I have wanted to be a pilot all my life! This means the world to me!

maccoretti

Are the rules for NZ the same as Australia?
I've been searching hard to find out and came accross this:

http://www.caa.govt.nz/fulltext/medi...anual_vol1.pdf

It mentions that a medical can be granted with a SODA.
Sorry for the dumb question but I am an aspiring pilot wannabe and wouldn't mind knowing if I can pass with a signal light test in NZ.

PPRuNeUser0161

Hi guy's. Well I would like to agree with the last two posts. If enough CVD pilot wannabees stand up and ask for the system to be changed it will succeed in time. In an earlier post a writer said "change the with Papi light to blue" well thats not as stupid as it sounds. Rules and definitions change almost daily in aviation and I am sure that if the colours of the lights were to be changed to those that cause less of a problem to the CVD pilot we would all adapt without so much as a wimper.

The colours would need to be chosen very carefully though.

Ponte: I know of no US or Ausie airline that tests for CV in there medicals.
SN

Piper19

Ok, so I'm reading a bit through this all. I have a PPL with class2 medical, restricted to day flying and no IFR, due to color deficiency. No class 1 could be given to me 5 years ago (in belgium that was).
Is there any hope for me to get a CPL license? Are the examining techniques changed and if I pass a new test, would I receive a class 1 even if they refused it a few years ago?
What are my options within europe?
I'm getting a bit confused by reading this all, and I don't want to get false hope guys...

planecrazy.eu

Many have had their dreams of flying spoilt by poor vision, and many have got over it and gone on to do something they love and enjoy, even though at the time it may have seemed like the end of the world as flying is all they have ever wanted to do.

I cant see why you would fail? -6 is the limit, you fall in this. If you can see 20/20 with correction, you should be ok.

Dont matter whats in you frames, it matters what the AME optician thinks should be in your frames.

My optician got me .25 of a dioptre higher than the ame got me.

My issue was not perscription in the end, but the ability to read the 20/20 line with correction. Maybe too many years of tv and computer messed my distance vision up...