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Old 1st May 2022, 18:41
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Originally Posted by pilotlux
Well,

Firstly,

There are not many options, not many companies are hiring. I think everyone given the choice will sacrifice the 30k for the promising career with Ryanair. Whom btw (unless you are based in Spain) pay more than all their competitors. Cadet contract pays +- 3k a month, which is what a Wizz air FO get, and Volotea is even less, after 6 months you can already look at 4k per month and after a year where your hourly rate bumps from 18eur/h to 38eur/h you can aim at 5/5.5k. Which btw us not only more than their competitors, it is more than non-low cost operators. On top of the salary, they give you a roster 5/4 like no other airline, and a great addition to your CV, since having worked for Ryanair is the equivalent of graduating from Oxford University.

All of this information is factual as you can google and and it comes first hard from 3 FO officers that started in the last 14 months that I knew before they even started with Ryanair.
The truth is, that other than the 30k you have to pay at the start, the pilots are better treated than direct competitors and even normal airlines.
So you pay 30k for a good and fast career.

If I had accepted the offer to be a flight instructors, which lets be honest, unless you are lucky its the only other option, you would have to pay 10k Instructor rating for a 1/2k salary and have little to no career progression.

Furthermore, Ryanair keeps hiring because their pilots are being poached by other airlines, we are only in may and they have started 300 cadets.

Finally, everybody will complain no matter where they go and what they do.

A big Hug,

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Cadet contract 3K a month??? What are you on? Seriously never read so much BS in one post - all your numbers are wrong. Now if you would bother and go back a couple pages you would read the trueth. Like people based in Dublin on a bluesky contract getting 1.4k a month whilst paying 800 euro for a room and another 900 euro for the training debt. Have fun on instagram lad

You haven't even touched a 737 and are talking bull**** to people let alone seen the contract

This all would be fair if you didn't have to cough up the 30K or the training would be free but guess what its not
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Old 1st May 2022, 19:12
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Originally Posted by pilotlux
All of this information is factual as you can google and and it comes first hard from 3 FO officers that started in the last 14 months that I knew before they even started with Ryanair.
While I have to admit most of your response sounded like it came straight from a Ryanair brochure marketing material, the above quote stood out the most. Googling something does not make it factual. Also there is little detail on the actual specifics from your connections.

Btw, I am not disputing what you have said. It might very well be true. But a first-hand account from members here would speak a thousand "Google results".

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Old 1st May 2022, 19:35
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Originally Posted by polskiland
Cadet contract 3K a month??? What are you on? Seriously never read so much BS in one post - all your numbers are wrong. Now if you would bother and go back a couple pages you would read the trueth. Like people based in Dublin on a bluesky contract getting 1.4k a month whilst paying 800 euro for a room and another 900 euro for the training debt. Have fun on instagram lad

You haven't even touched a 737 and are talking bull**** to people let alone seen the contract

This all would be fair if you didn't have to cough up the 30K or the training would be free but guess what its not
I mean, there is no need to be nasty. I advice you drink some camomille, this is a discussion forum. Not an argument at the bar.

I would like you to know that I have seen these contract first hand, Malta air contracts and Wizz air contracts. I am lucky enough to have close friends who started working there as I previously mentioned in my post. Also, other than the first month or so where you have a safety pilot you have have a base salary of 1.6k + 14eur/h pay + standby pay + paid holiday.

For your information, I do not use Instagram and I do advice you talk to somebody because you seem a bit stressed about this,

A warm hug
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Old 1st May 2022, 19:49
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Originally Posted by skygeek
While I have to admit most of your response sounded like it came straight from a Ryanair brochure marketing material, the above quote stood out the most. Googling something does not make it factual. Also there is little detail on the actual specifics from your connections.

Btw, I am not disputing what you have said. It might very well be true. But a first-hand account from members here would speak a thousand "Google results".
Hey there,

I have to agree with you, it does sound like a Ryanair brochure. I guarantee you I am in no way or form associated with them. I did overexagerate the google part, but there are websites where you can actually see pilot salaries (submitted by actual pilots).

I was just like there other guy a 'hater' too, but after I have talked to my friends whom are both Ryanair and other airline cadets, my mind changed. For example, my friend in Ryanair who started 1 year ago exactly as cadet, is now very well trained, very well payed and already poached on Linked in by other companies looking for Typerated and experienced pilots. An other friend in Volotea, who also had to pay 26k for his type, will only match the Ryanair guys salary in 5 years, whilst for the first three years will make and I quote "With 40 block around 1000€, 80h 2100€ that's until 500h then 2400€ for 80 BH then once reaching 1000 TT, you go to 3000 in summer and 1400 in winter". My friend who flies in Wizz is only payed 3k and will continue to be payed so until a captain upgrade but he hates it, he complains about the roster being random and the scheduling horrible, only flying max 40-60h per month in his base.

Overall, the point I was trying to make is that Ryanair is easy to bully, and there are definetly worse conditions.

A big Hug,

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Old 2nd May 2022, 03:17
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Originally Posted by johni
I have never applied to RyanAir. I do not fly fixed wing.
i ment that if you are type rated you don’t need to pay 30 or 35k, wich is anyway a wrong information.
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Old 3rd May 2022, 12:59
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Originally Posted by pilotlux
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Whom btw (unless you are based in Spain) pay more than all their competitors. Cadet contract pays +- 3k a month, which is what a Wizz air FO get, and Volotea is even less, after 6 months you can already look at 4k per month and after a year where your hourly rate bumps from 18eur/h to 38eur/h you can aim at 5/5.5k. Which btw us not only more than their competitors, it is more than non-low cost operators. On top of the salary, they give you a roster 5/4 like no other airline, and a great addition to your CV, since having worked for Ryanair is the equivalent of graduating from Oxford University.
[...]
You know it really depends on where you are based and which company your are flying for. DAC? Malta? Buzz? UK? (Excl Lauda as they're on Airbus). Taxation is different everywhere and so are the contracts. F.e. Italian based guys get a low basic, but a higher hourly block, exactly the opposite is true for Germany...even though both are Malta. So, yes, as an FO the 5k€ are probably doable, depending on where you are based and how much you are flying. German estimates for an FO >1500h: 50k€ basic, 5.5k€ yearly allowance, 20€/block. Do the maths...(no, you probably won't fly 850h, and mind that this is without any Covid reduction, which for now is still -20%)

Don't know the situation for the cadets.

Advantages which are undeniable:
Stable 5/4 roster
No scheduled night flights
A/C are mostly in pretty good shape and quite new
Pretty good training department (well, they should be...as they are training enough people...)
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Old 3rd May 2022, 15:38
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Sim assessment

Hi, anyone will be having assessment on 19th of May in Dublin?
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Old 3rd May 2022, 19:23
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Same question as above. 20th of May in Dublin?
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Old 4th May 2022, 06:04
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Originally Posted by Kefo
Hey friends.

Quick question, am I allowed to use my my friend as a reference (known him for more than 5 years) but who was also later my instructor when I started my flight training? Or can I use him as the "educational body reference" instead?
Hey man,

my advice is that you use him as a reference without mentioning he was your instructor. More over, education body refers to University or Highschool, I am (almost) sure it does not refer to flight school.

A warm hug,

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Old 4th May 2022, 06:08
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Originally Posted by flyfan
You know it really depends on where you are based and which company your are flying for. DAC? Malta? Buzz? UK? )
Hey,

I did know, clearly not as in detail as you. Thank you for sharing that. Furthermore, I heard that they are doing new contracts in Spain since similarly to Belgium they were contemplating a strike. Also, I heard that the Covid 20% reduction is fading soon.

I have to agree with you, the advantages are undeniable.

A Warm hug,

Luxpilot


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Old 4th May 2022, 06:17
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Originally Posted by dobsonejro
Same question as above. 20th of May in Dublin?
I just sent you a private message.
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Old 4th May 2022, 07:42
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Assessment

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Same question as above. 20th of May in Dublin?
Here I am
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Old 4th May 2022, 10:04
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tomcioklo I am trying to send you a message regarding assessment but your inbox is full.
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Old 4th May 2022, 12:35
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Ok, maybe try now.

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Until you have a posting history you don't have access to private messaging and adding urls. Only working method for you is to pass on an email address.
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Old 4th May 2022, 14:39
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Good Evening guys, someone can tell me what type of medical examination are done by Ryanair medical examiner during the training, and during the assesment phase (is there is any).
Thank you for the reply, and stay safe
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Old 5th May 2022, 15:48
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Hi all !

I just have been invited for online assessment for

TYPE RATED FO and I have few questions.

The email says that for Type rated FO, I will have 4 tasks on that assessment but I know it’s 8 for cadets. I actually preparing on « Pilot Test », do you guys know what’s this 4 task ? Which exercises are for TRFO and which are not ?

Also for the question we have to answer faced to the camera. Any feed back of the questions ?

Thanks guys !
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Old 6th May 2022, 05:23
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Hi all

Is anyone going to the assessment on the 17th of May?
Please DM me.
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Old 7th May 2022, 07:21
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Hi,

those of you who applied for the TR FO position, how long did it take to receive the reply? Was your last flight on type within 36 months? I'm rated but it's been more than 36 months since my last flight on type (flew different type during that time).

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Old 7th May 2022, 11:32
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Hi all,
I applied to Ryanair as a cadet and i just realised that the place of birth is wrong on my license but i know that i can get it changed next week, is that gonna be a serious issue cos i've already applied.
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DaveDurban.

Post is probably quite accurate to my knowledge, however one has to take a look at the overall picture and apply it to a chap who is determined to get into aviation and RyanAir is just one of those avenues.
On the RyanAir running out of pilots in the very near future the question I ask us where do they all disappear to. Type is generally 737 and not sure if there is any general shortage, seems from other posters that the Airbus is the most in demand position.
Back to Ryanair, my less than totally reliable sources, mate in training outfit, that they have ramped up and still being requested to increase their through put for FR.
RyanAir are moving mountains in attempts to have cadets coming through in the next 2 years.
I believe at present they regard a Cadet with 500 hours as experienced, wow, 500 hours, in my day it was 3000 on type minimum to be regarded as anywhere near experienced. I know that Ryan have an impeccable safety record and top notch training procedures and it is a great record so cadets if they can put up with the salary drawbacks then Ryan is a great opportunity to get on the first rung of the ladder to better things.
Would I advise my son to join them, not 100% sure I would.
But, again if he wanted too, then it's his decision.

One has to view that careers in aviation have changed completely from the good old days, but thats life, nothing stays the same.

Best of luck to all potential entrants to our world on the flight deck. Not much better places to be in my mind.
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