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Old 23rd Dec 2021, 13:45
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I had the option to join Ryanair post 2000 crisis. Didn't do it, wouldn't throw down the 30k, only to find myself working as an engineer for 3 years with a net salary that was 1250Ä raising to 1400Ä at the end. All that after spending 6 years (4 engineering, 2 ATPL) studying books... talk about paying back loans on that salary.

And I wouldn't be pessimistic if you'd like to join a major and nothing would move in the next 5 years... because it is already moving. I know some people who were widebody captain and went to a major. That's the problem these days... nobody is patient anymore. It all has to go quick quick quick. The upgrades will come. These days, a hired F/O talks about nothing else but left seat... there is no need for it. Give it 5 years and you will see... As a trainer I would say: focus on what you need to learn first. You will get there.

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Old 23rd Dec 2021, 17:04
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In fact I would say next year BA hiring!!!

From what I have heard crews are being asked to work on days off etc.

Going to be massive movement next year and 2023!!
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Old 24th Dec 2021, 11:01
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So I had the online assessment but unfortunately it was unsuccessful. I can try again after some time and I want to prepare even better. What's the best site for preparation? There is pilotassessments.com, airlineassessmentprep.com, latestpilotjobs.com. Any recommendation?
I did my preparation with pilotest.com which is free and it was very helpful for the cut-e but there was no question bank. I got some really tough questions and probably this is what failed me although my atpl theory knowledge is very good.
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Old 24th Dec 2021, 11:11
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Originally Posted by AIMINGHIGH123 View Post
In fact I would say next year BA hiring!!!

From what I have heard crews are being asked to work on days off etc.

Going to be massive movement next year and 2023!!
That's probably because a lot of crews are forced to self-isolate due to Covid rules. Seems to be the case in many airlines.
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Old 24th Dec 2021, 14:01
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Originally Posted by AIMINGHIGH123 View Post
In fact I would say next year BA hiring!!!

From what I have heard crews are being asked to work on days off etc.

Going to be massive movement next year and 2023!!
Wouldnít get too excited, thereís a long line of those who got made redundant and those who had their contractís revoked, plus the cadets.. and even thatís after the remaining couple of hundred ex747 pilots get a new seat.

But after all that, then yes! You would be correct
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Old 26th Dec 2021, 07:14
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Originally Posted by Gio87 View Post
So I had the online assessment but unfortunately it was unsuccessful. I can try again after some time and I want to prepare even better. What's the best site for preparation? There is pilotassessments.com, airlineassessmentprep.com, latestpilotjobs.com. Any recommendation?
I did my preparation with pilotest.com which is free and it was very helpful for the cut-e but there was no question bank. I got some really tough questions and probably this is what failed me although my atpl theory knowledge is very good.
Two of my ex-colleagues used pilotassessments.com for their RYR assessment and they recommend this website as the aptitude tests are exactly what you can expect during the online assessment and the forum is known to contains latest questions from the technical ATPL test.

From a personal perspective I can recommend this website as well as I used it for my CLX assessment.

Anyway, good luck!
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Old 26th Dec 2021, 12:30
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Originally Posted by Dashcam View Post
Such arrogance!

Id say it’s a pretty good investment long term.

A temporary 6 month low pay period during line TRAINING is a small price to pay when the pay after training is:

Junior FO: £45k
Senior FO: £60-70k
CP: £100-120k

So many entitled guys on here… as an SFO in RYR you earn nearly as much as a GP, for essentially what is an easy job most of the time.
You are not too bright. In a real airline you should be on double that. It's a shame you people are happy to work as slaves

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Old 26th Dec 2021, 20:24
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You are not too bright. In a real airline you should be on double that. It's a shame you people are happy to work as slaves
Your concept of "slave" is questionable.
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Old 27th Dec 2021, 08:17
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Originally Posted by 45989 View Post
You are not too bright. In a real airline you should be on double that.
Which airline pays £240k for captains?
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Old 27th Dec 2021, 09:41
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Originally Posted by FlyingStone View Post
Which airline pays £240k for captains?
Exactly. BA but thatís after about 30 years of grafting. Middle East carriers if you add everything up but thatís because 0 tax. Guy I know retired from EK after 15 years, this was a few years ago and was on £15k month without adding his accommodation. That would be £320k minimum on a UK salary.

Other than that I donít know anyone on

£90k as a JFO
£140k SFO
£240k Captain

at any UK/EU airline without some serious seniority.

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Old 28th Dec 2021, 07:19
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Originally Posted by 45989 View Post
You are not too bright. In a real airline you should be on double that. It's a shame you people are happy to work as slaves
And what "REAL" European airline are you referring to?
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I believe You need to be able to speak other than English, an Asian language most of the time to be able to work in Asia or in the Middle East.
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Old 31st Dec 2021, 18:29
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UPRT (FCL745) for Ryanair

Hello to everyone,

Happy new year Wish you all the best for this new year.
I didn't find a perfect answer to my question.

My profil :
Full ATPL(A) in corporate aviation, with a CS25 rating but no Advanced UPRT.
Unfortunately, with my profil I need to apply for Ryanair Cadet Program. Is a Advanced UPRT course mandatory to apply (Ryanair requirements) or can I follow the regulation (Advanced UPRT not mandatory)?

Thank you for your answers.
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Old 4th Jan 2022, 19:16
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Thanks for the response, only saw it now. Yeah I hope my age wonít hinder me or else Iím in trouble, poured a lot of money into this and am paying it all back with or without a flying position.
I suppose I cam just hang tight and see how things go and try and reapply for a mentored aps again.
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Old 5th Jan 2022, 07:38
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I have recently been offered a place on a RYR mentored scheme APS MCC and I am in my mid 30's. I hope age isn't ultimately a factor, plenty of advantages us 'experienced' guys can offer so hopefully all airlines are after a healthy balance of young and 'old'.
There will of course be more younger guys at assessments - there are more younger guys training so hopefully the age ratios of people starting training to those getting assessments are about matched.
If you haven't done the APS MCC yet, maybe speak to the provider and see if they can communicate with their contacts at RYR....
Good luck and don't give up
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Old 5th Jan 2022, 09:44
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Originally Posted by flyingtrain View Post
I have recently been offered a place on a RYR mentored scheme APS MCC and I am in my mid 30's. I hope age isn't ultimately a factor, plenty of advantages us 'experienced' guys can offer so hopefully all airlines are after a healthy balance of young and 'old'.
There will of course be more younger guys at assessments - there are more younger guys training so hopefully the age ratios of people starting training to those getting assessments are about matched.
If you haven't done the APS MCC yet, maybe speak to the provider and see if they can communicate with their contacts at RYR....
Good luck and don't give up
In 2019 I had assesment in Dublin.
We had 8 guys, 4 with APS MCC and 4 with basic MCC.
Only 3 of us received job offer, all with basic MCC.
So don't take APS MCC as guarantee to get a job at Ryanair, it's just a very expensive version of MCC.
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Old 5th Jan 2022, 10:03
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Thank you buddy, sound advice right there and I intend to work as hard as I can for the job offer. I was only referring to the age comments for initial assessments and those who are at interviews/sim assessments. I am certainly not complacent in thinking anything is in the bag.
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Old 9th Jan 2022, 16:07
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Hello everyone, I would like to ask which website did you use for exercising the Inductive and Deductive exercises for the online assessment. I am currently using latestpilotjobs but it seems that many people have said that the sites exercises are much more easier than the ones in the actual test



Thanks in advance
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Old 9th Jan 2022, 18:07
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Originally Posted by Scorpape View Post
Don't worry too much, the answer time of Ryanair seems to depend a lot. I waited one month before receiving the online assessment convocation whereas some friends had it in 48h. Just make sure all your documents are uploaded in a proper manner.


Also for the age question, I was at Ryanair HQ this week for the assessment and most of the cadets were between 20 and 25 but one was something like 37 so don't draw conclusions too early !

Thank you for your answer Scorpape


Still no news from Ryanair for the moment... i just continue to prepare the pre-selection process.
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Old 10th Jan 2022, 17:06
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I am thinking of applying for the Ryanair Mentored APS later this month. I am trying to get an understanding of the initial training pipeline and career structure as well as the financial aspects. Is my understanding correct:

- The TR costs cadets Ä30,000 (£25,000) up front with no guarantee of a contract at the end. There is no further training bond.

- The TR and base training will take around 3 months during which cadets earn no salary and no subsistence. No accommodation is provided by the training provider or included in the price of the TR.

- After base training (3 months since starting the TR) you have to complete around 70 sectors for line training which should take 3 months Cadets are paid £16,800 plus £12.83 SBH pay. Line training is generally done in the UK for UK passport holders.

- After line training (6 months after starting the TR), cadets MAY be offered a six-month SO contract with a salary of £16,800 (£21,000-20%) plus £12.83 per scheduled block hour. Assuming 800hrs a year, this equates to a salary of £27,064.

- For this first contract, UK Passport holders can be based in the UK, Ireland or Morocco.

- Following this first contract, you may be offered another contract of longer duration.

- This initial salary will likely last for about six to nine months (12-15 months after starting the TR) until you hit 500hrs at which point you are promoted to FO and your salary increases to £23,000 basic plus £32 per SBH (equating to £48,600 assuming 800hrs per year).

- After you accrue 1500hrs and I assume your fATPL is unfrozen (say another 18 months later and 2.5-3 years since starting the TR), the per SBH increases to circa £59. This increases the effective salary to £70,200, again assuming 800 hours per year.

Is this a reasonable summary?

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