Ryanair interviews and sim assessments - 2

[Banana Joe]

As I've said, when you join an airline it doesn't end with a type rating. There's a lot more of training to be done, starting with an OCC, low visibility qualification, PBN, various ground courses, etc. When I joined my current employer I had a full month of various training before I had actually started flying. These also costs money to an operator. I am sure there's still a profit in this scheme.

[Vinny91]

Yes definitely of course should be a profit.
For the PBN in this case you should have it now in the licence since it is mandatory, for the other course as you said, it is including inside the 30000 I believe.
If they can make some profits are the salary for the instructor and the engineer to run the simulator and the various courses.
I don't think they can make a lot of extra enough to run the entire airline.

That was years ago with the scheme PAY-to FLY. Where the people have to pay money during the line training and also after it.
In this case fortunately they are " paying " us during the line training.
At least is something very different. Don't you agree?

[Banana Joe]

Each type rating has its own IR, and I assume the same applies for the PBN part. I stand to be corrected on the PBN part.

Anyway, we're digressing.

[Vinny91]

Thanks for sharing your opinions.
Yha anyway, it was only a point I wanted to clarify about the differences among the prices for type rating.

[Fixedgear]

In house TR will cost €15.000 max. Charging €30.000 they make 100% profit, at least.

[Brian Pern]

Although it sounds a lot, when you look at the numbers, lets be generous and say 1,000 cadets per year paying €30,000 each with .€15,000 gross profit, so €15,000,000.00 income then, which is pretty good.
Except, according to the current accounts, year ended 31 March 2021 Scheduled Revenue (Scheduled revenues comprise the invoiced value of airline and other services) was €1,036,000,000.00, there is a bit of difference, I am sure they are happy to make a profit on training, but it is less than 1/69th of revenue, so not as important as you may think.
If you are interested until 31 March 2020, the Scheduled Revenue was €5,556,200,000.00, which equates to 1/370th.

[Vinny91]

Yes okay, but as I said, do not forget to consider that they will pay you during the line training which in that case is different.

[Perseas]

All airlines pay you during line training because you are actually working. The thing is, if you have payed 30k, getting payed 1300 per month is a joke. Let alone the fact that you have to pay for all your expenses, uniform and living expenses until you start the line training. Nowhere in the world do they charge the 737 TR for 30k. The explanation is simple. A part of the 30k is used for your salaries during the line training. In other words, you pay for own salaries and you work for them for free.

[Contact Approach]

Brian Pern

Trust me, that is not how O’Leary looks at this nor anyone with a vested business interest.

[Akum]

Brian Pern

You clearly don't understand how low coster airline works, go watch some youtube about it.

[Brian Pern]

Contact Approach, I never said MOL won't be happy to make a profit from flight training, I am sure he is quite happy to make money from any source. I remember many years ago a friend who went to Ryanair as a TRE, when he went to the local swimming pool to undertake his Water Evacuation Training, he had to pay a couple of pounds to go in.

Akum, I have helped set up and run, many years ago, more than one airline in the UK, one is sadly no longer with us, the other's are doing quite well. I don't watch You Tube experts, are these the same ones who show Chemtrails? or maybe that 9/11 was staged, although I have found it very handy when I had to replace the window regulator in my Cayenne and other simple things.

[flyingintheclouds]

A320LGW

Where's the Ryanair recruitment account to reply to this one seems a bit quiet...

[rotorwills]

It's all about supply and demand. If an employer has the opportunity to charge a prospective future employee then that's what will happen. It's just about the size of the market. At this present time more people want to be one pilots. If that changes then the employer will have to modify his operation. Regarding the cost at present €30K it appears to be out of the reach of many but again that indicates the size of the potential employee base.
It's ridiculous to think that RyanAir are out to run its training as a profit making sector. Their training department must cost a great deal of money to run. If after going through their type rating and not being offered a position, then it's down to market forces or the unthinkable that the candidate did not meet the requirements.

[phili878]

I don’t understand how people in their right minds still want to become airline pilots or pilots in general in days like these. Must be for the instagram pictures.

So many years and a heck load of cash spent just to fly in a profession (let alone buying right-hand seats) only so that you’re laid-off at any given moment and won’t even be qualified to drive trains nor busses when competing with thousands of foreign bus and truck drivers for your specific job. Did I mention as an FO you’ll earn not much more than driving a bus?

[iamryranair]

Afternoon folks!, hope all is well, busy week in RYR HQ with all of the mentored students who attended passing with flying colors! Congrats to everyone who has been to an assessment over the last 4 weeks and joining a course in the next couple of months. Difficult to see the wood from the trees on this thread given the volume but hear to answer any real recruitment questions!

Cheers

[Fets]

Hi there !

A few questions regarding the process.
Concerning the online assessment, for the ATPL questions, how did you manage to review it ? Did you go through the bank ?

Regarding the sim assessment, I did an APS MCC, where we had to do all the flows of the 737. Since this has been designed for people who never flew the 737, what should we do during the sim check, let’s say after take off, should the PM pull the LG to OFF ? Same goes for the rest of the flight, should we do the flows as well ?
Are we allowed to use the AP initially, or is it entirely raw data ?

Regarding the selection, how is the pace currently, are they still interviewing ?

Thanks !

[Vinny91]

Hello Sir, good day!

I would like to know if there is any possibility to expect to have an invitation for an online assessment in the near future or do we have to wait a bit more this time?

Thanks so much!

[iamryranair]

Hi Vinny, lots of applications to go through at the moment but if you match the requirements you should be expected to be called for an online assessment in the next couple of weeks.

A320, our sister airline are currently hiring, don't hesitate to have a look if you are interested, here to answer any recruitment related questions given the name of the thread is about interviews and assessments, all recruitment is for S22

[Perseas]

Vinny91

Beyond hope.

[Perseas]

A320LGW

I am looking forward to getting an answer on this one.