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Hmmmmm. Thought I'd left all that company nonsense behind when I retired a couple of years ago.
Was rather hoping you were going to suggest juggling, whist riding a unicycle and reciting the National Anthem backwards.
Was rather hoping you were going to suggest juggling, whist riding a unicycle and reciting the National Anthem backwards.
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I wouldn't worry sparky you seem to have gone to the same school as me for crap grammar and crap sentence construction. I wouldn't have a chance of getting into BA either.
And Fords solution isn't as easy as it sounds and to be honest one TRE may say good on you and another may be not very happy.
The performance will have been calculated for the worst case so in theory it should climb with perf A performance without doing anything. If you then start getting into it not cllimbing or having control issues then you can get into the nitty gritty of shutting down before 400ft. But as soon as you step outside the conformation procedures you have a huge huge risk of shutting down the wrong one, or even if you get the right one making another finger mistake on another system.
And shutting one down without keeping the PF in the loop will cause other issues. Although from a FO's point of view I would expect the Captain to be on it pretty quick and the situation of the FO making the call to shut it down before 400ft shouldn't occur.
Personally if I was in the sim I would ask to get the situation run twice and try both methods out. Even if you just scrape up to 400ft before running memory items its better to do that than to step outside the SOP's.
And Fords solution isn't as easy as it sounds and to be honest one TRE may say good on you and another may be not very happy.
The performance will have been calculated for the worst case so in theory it should climb with perf A performance without doing anything. If you then start getting into it not cllimbing or having control issues then you can get into the nitty gritty of shutting down before 400ft. But as soon as you step outside the conformation procedures you have a huge huge risk of shutting down the wrong one, or even if you get the right one making another finger mistake on another system.
And shutting one down without keeping the PF in the loop will cause other issues. Although from a FO's point of view I would expect the Captain to be on it pretty quick and the situation of the FO making the call to shut it down before 400ft shouldn't occur.
Personally if I was in the sim I would ask to get the situation run twice and try both methods out. Even if you just scrape up to 400ft before running memory items its better to do that than to step outside the SOP's.
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Does anyone know when the next expected assessment days at FTE are meant to be??
It says on the FTE website that its provisional course start dates are:
Friday, 14th October 2011
Friday, 11th November 2011
Friday, 17th February 2012
Thursday, 29th March 2012
Friday, 27th April 2012
Is this related to the BA future pilot scheme?
Has anyone received negative feedback from their application?
It says on the FTE website that its provisional course start dates are:
Friday, 14th October 2011
Friday, 11th November 2011
Friday, 17th February 2012
Thursday, 29th March 2012
Friday, 27th April 2012
Is this related to the BA future pilot scheme?
Has anyone received negative feedback from their application?
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Simulator.
Well, managed to put the finishing touches to my home-bashed cockpit/flightdeck today, and I don’t mind admitting I’m quietly impressed. With a yoke from old coat hangers, a console made from empty cereal boxes (for those thinking of building one for themselves, I’d recommend those of the well known breakfast manufacturers rather than the supermarket home brands as the card is stouter and of better quality!) and rudder pedals from a pair of the wife’s old slippers, it really has a feel of the prototype. It even has an attitude indicator, which doesn’t actually work of course as it’s just drawn on with coloured pencils, but it has a pastel blue sky and could just as easily pass for the real thing. One change to my original plan by the way: decided against the Airbus version as originally intended as I thought that the presence of just two buttons was a bit boring so have made it into a jumbo jet instead.
Have experienced one or two teething problems, one of which is extremely annoying: my rate of descent alarm – actually an old torch bulb wired to a battery, the lens of which I’ve painted red – keeps illuminating when I’m coming into land. Bearing in mind I’m making a text book descent at a rate of seven hundred feet per second, I can’t quite fathom why it keeps going off. I’ve tested the circuit but everything appears to be working correctly (perhaps one of you jocks can enlighten me – PMs gratefully received).
Anyway, tomorrow morning I’m practising crash landings on water (probably in the Caribbean as the water’s a darned sight warmer) and in the afternoon I’m trying my hand at high-and-fast approaches over Skiathos just in case that snidey, miserable ol’ b*gg&r, Capt. Gloves from BA tries that low-baller on me. Shouldn’t want to get caught with my pants down like old B*rky!
In the meantime, I’m off to do a bit of genning up in preparation for the aptitude tests so am spending the rest of the evening with my head firmly sandwiched between the pages of my ‘Boy’s Bumper Book of Planes’ (1962 edition).
Have experienced one or two teething problems, one of which is extremely annoying: my rate of descent alarm – actually an old torch bulb wired to a battery, the lens of which I’ve painted red – keeps illuminating when I’m coming into land. Bearing in mind I’m making a text book descent at a rate of seven hundred feet per second, I can’t quite fathom why it keeps going off. I’ve tested the circuit but everything appears to be working correctly (perhaps one of you jocks can enlighten me – PMs gratefully received).
Anyway, tomorrow morning I’m practising crash landings on water (probably in the Caribbean as the water’s a darned sight warmer) and in the afternoon I’m trying my hand at high-and-fast approaches over Skiathos just in case that snidey, miserable ol’ b*gg&r, Capt. Gloves from BA tries that low-baller on me. Shouldn’t want to get caught with my pants down like old B*rky!
In the meantime, I’m off to do a bit of genning up in preparation for the aptitude tests so am spending the rest of the evening with my head firmly sandwiched between the pages of my ‘Boy’s Bumper Book of Planes’ (1962 edition).
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Suggestions for my plan of action & BA Future Pilot Program
Hi guys, I'm new here. I am looking for some advice from anyone who has good experience in the airline industry. Here's the story.
I just finished my JAA PPL (did it in Florida). Currently have 52 hours logged. I study Aeronautical Engineering at Glasgow University and have 2 years left.
My friend recently told me about BA's "Future Pilot Program" but I missed the 1st application deadline. REALLY gutted. Unfortunately I don't have 40k lying around and this is the only program I can see where you don't need to have rich mummy and daddy to become a pilot.
So my question:
a) Does anyone know if they will definitely be looking for more applicants next year?
b) If the answer is yes, should I hold off with any more flying at the moment and wait till they open up vacancies again? I think they don't want people to have CPLs or a lot of hours when they apply. I know the competition is probably fierce but I am 100% confident I have a very good chance if I did apply.
Before I found out about this program, the idea was to go back to the US next summer to build up 100 hours and maybe get the CPL done too. But I'm not sure anymore. Plus my finances would run out at that point probably so any advice would be really appreciated!
Thanks
I just finished my JAA PPL (did it in Florida). Currently have 52 hours logged. I study Aeronautical Engineering at Glasgow University and have 2 years left.
My friend recently told me about BA's "Future Pilot Program" but I missed the 1st application deadline. REALLY gutted. Unfortunately I don't have 40k lying around and this is the only program I can see where you don't need to have rich mummy and daddy to become a pilot.
So my question:
a) Does anyone know if they will definitely be looking for more applicants next year?
b) If the answer is yes, should I hold off with any more flying at the moment and wait till they open up vacancies again? I think they don't want people to have CPLs or a lot of hours when they apply. I know the competition is probably fierce but I am 100% confident I have a very good chance if I did apply.
Before I found out about this program, the idea was to go back to the US next summer to build up 100 hours and maybe get the CPL done too. But I'm not sure anymore. Plus my finances would run out at that point probably so any advice would be really appreciated!
Thanks
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OK - enough.
Stick to the thread or get deleted!
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Stick to the thread or get deleted!
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Btw, I've just read through this thread and it answered my question of weather they will continue with the next tranche next year. Looks like the answer is yes. But I am still wondering if I should hold off on any further flying before I apply in a year...
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But I am still wondering if I should hold off on any further flying before I apply in a year...
1. BA only care if you have a CPL. I would surmise that they, or the FTO might get a bit edgy if you were to go to the FPP with say 200+hrs even with no CPL (Poor habits developing etc). Aside from this, there are no problems with hours as far as I can see.
2. Let's be pessimistic and suggest that you don't make the cut. If you've got a substantial number of hours you're already closer to taking the modular route if you desire. Although this will bar you from some other 'sponsorship' programmes where there IS a limit on the hours you may have.
I would suggest you do a bit more research and then decide - you appear to have just asked on a whim, without reading the appropriate threads here or any other sources - you have at the very least a year to decide what to do.
I would also suggest you do this after the first week back at University, far more pressing issues to be dealt with (read 'pub'
).
I've had a skip over this thread to find an answer to this question, but could someone clarify the financial packet involved in this deal?
I'm a little confused about the loan itself. As I understand it, we have to demonstrate access to around 80k before they will consider loaning any to us, although that seems to defeat the purpose of needing a loan in the first place...
I must also say I'm a little annoyed at the charge for attending the initial interview. Sure, it may separate those with real ambition from those who would just be time wasting, but then id hope thatswhat the application process was for! Also I suspect there will be a very high number of people not getting onto this course, judging by the interest on these forums and the broad range of people applying. That's going to convert intoa lot of people gambling 200 or in my case closer to 400 pounds
I'm a little confused about the loan itself. As I understand it, we have to demonstrate access to around 80k before they will consider loaning any to us, although that seems to defeat the purpose of needing a loan in the first place...
I must also say I'm a little annoyed at the charge for attending the initial interview. Sure, it may separate those with real ambition from those who would just be time wasting, but then id hope thatswhat the application process was for! Also I suspect there will be a very high number of people not getting onto this course, judging by the interest on these forums and the broad range of people applying. That's going to convert intoa lot of people gambling 200 or in my case closer to 400 pounds
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Got to stage 2 at OAA. Anyone know roughly the acceptance rate to get to this stage?
Unfortunately not sure if I can make it since I have my UKCAT test (for medical school uni app) on one of the dates and have commitments on other dates too relating to my uni application. Wish there was slightly more notice as the only dates available are next week.
Very frustrating, going to try to see if I can get out of anything but at the same time I will end up losing a few days preparation for my uni application which I think has much better odds of being successful so difficult to judge if it will be worth it.
Unfortunately not sure if I can make it since I have my UKCAT test (for medical school uni app) on one of the dates and have commitments on other dates too relating to my uni application. Wish there was slightly more notice as the only dates available are next week.
Very frustrating, going to try to see if I can get out of anything but at the same time I will end up losing a few days preparation for my uni application which I think has much better odds of being successful so difficult to judge if it will be worth it.
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Hi Babar350, I also received email from OAA this morning, rejecting me. I met all the academic requirements and thought my application was good... needless to say I'm disappointed 
Going to concentrate on my studies and reapply in a few years.
Going to concentrate on my studies and reapply in a few years.
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Its all about life experence.
eg i reckon they will be looking for stuff like
scouts
CCF
Air cadets or sea Cadets
Boys Brigade
rugby or other team sport although football might not do you any favours.
Gliding or microlights
And put down if you got Queens scout or what ever level you got to.
At UNI
OTC, UAS or TA
Special police man
team sports again
VSO
Gliding
Or interesting hobby eg caving,subaqua,canoeing. Football and reading doesn't cut the mustard (personally anyone who puts down football as an interest goes straight in the bin, but if they put down referee for junior leagues or a more involved job to do with football they won't)
I am sure you can get my drift.
Even already qualified wannbies fall over in this dept. They have the same hours etc as everyone else and nothing that really sticks out from the crowd.
Which is something to note for folk reading this thread with intentions in a couple of years of applying. You need to look at making yourself different from the crowd.
eg i reckon they will be looking for stuff like
scouts
CCF
Air cadets or sea Cadets
Boys Brigade
rugby or other team sport although football might not do you any favours.
Gliding or microlights
And put down if you got Queens scout or what ever level you got to.
At UNI
OTC, UAS or TA
Special police man
team sports again
VSO
Gliding
Or interesting hobby eg caving,subaqua,canoeing. Football and reading doesn't cut the mustard (personally anyone who puts down football as an interest goes straight in the bin, but if they put down referee for junior leagues or a more involved job to do with football they won't)
I am sure you can get my drift.
Even already qualified wannbies fall over in this dept. They have the same hours etc as everyone else and nothing that really sticks out from the crowd.
Which is something to note for folk reading this thread with intentions in a couple of years of applying. You need to look at making yourself different from the crowd.
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I'm with mad_jock on this one. Based on the couple of rejection posts above, it seems that despite meeting the academic prerequisite, the schools aren't just letting anyone in and swindling as many £100's as they can in the first stage of selection. Obviously good news to those who have been successful so far...
You can only persume there was more emphasis/scrutiny on other areas of the application that you filled out.
Good luck to all those that have applied.
You can only persume there was more emphasis/scrutiny on other areas of the application that you filled out.
Good luck to all those that have applied.
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I never understand all this hoo-har about candidates ruining chances through their use of online social networking....
Take Facebook for example, I just dont get how an employer can trawl any information from it. Surely, unless you are a little bit challenged in maintaining your privacy, the only thing that can be attained is your profile picture, name, hometown, groups, who you're friends with....etc...
Nothing on your "wall" in your albums or the horrendous photos you have been "tagged" in can be seen UNLESS they are your 'friend'...if you dont have your privacy setup, you deserve to have profile harvested by Human Resources.edit: just noticed mad-jock replied before me with the same essence. Great minds think alike
Take Facebook for example, I just dont get how an employer can trawl any information from it. Surely, unless you are a little bit challenged in maintaining your privacy, the only thing that can be attained is your profile picture, name, hometown, groups, who you're friends with....etc...
Nothing on your "wall" in your albums or the horrendous photos you have been "tagged" in can be seen UNLESS they are your 'friend'...if you dont have your privacy setup, you deserve to have profile harvested by Human Resources.edit: just noticed mad-jock replied before me with the same essence. Great minds think alike
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Cheers for the input mad_jock and Roger-Wilco,
Yeah, I feel gutted but then again... I met the academic requirements but quite possibly didn't stand out from the crowd. And I'm sure the crowd is of a very high standard! Will take it on the chin, make a plan of action to make myself more desirable to BA, finish my degree and reapply in a few years.
All the best to anyone who has made it through, I'm only a little bit green...
Yeah, I feel gutted but then again... I met the academic requirements but quite possibly didn't stand out from the crowd. And I'm sure the crowd is of a very high standard! Will take it on the chin, make a plan of action to make myself more desirable to BA, finish my degree and reapply in a few years.
All the best to anyone who has made it through, I'm only a little bit green...