Advice after finishing training - what do I do next (Merged)
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30 mins of research
I joined this forum as a starry eyed wannabe a few days ago looking to seek advice on how to become a pilot (in my case the earliest is about 2018 after uni). After 30 mins of going through threads, i actually felt a slap in the face. yes recruitment may pick up in 3 years or so (just when easyjet and FR start to slow down), but surely you only have to watch the news (not BALPA's claim of a pilot shortage) to realise that this is a s**t time to throw away £80,000 when there is absolutely nothing afterwards. thankyou PPRuNe for slapping me round the face, and if I do decide to pursue a flying career, ill make sure I have a very (probably more cushy) plan B.
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jpointer123, your right. Perhaps do a PPL with a few ratings and a share in a plane.
Then you have a proper paying career and a good hobby without being screwed like many others. Saying that, the schools are selling courses and many going into aviation do not always know it can take years to get a proper paying job.
I have been flying 10 years and 2 years ago completed all my commercial / IR training etc. Could not get any work, stayed in my previous career and fly commercially part-time whilst waiting for a full time position which may take another 2 - 4 years to clear through.
You will also find companies like EZY have contracts with CTC and its near impossible to apply for a job directly to a operator.
Generally speaking, it was the same when EZY were offering perm jobs through CTC a few years ago. So such companies would feed their cadets in via such contracts between companies and no one else would have a chance a applying directly with no experience to EZY.
Another example is Ryanair, you apply via Oxfords SAE or CAE Amsterdam and hopefully meet the correct profile.
Their's suppose to be a looming pilot shortage. Their is no shortage of pilots, its going to be a shortage of pilots not type rated and experienced. So really it will be a a lack of pilots being able to pay for a type rating to gain employment if more experienced guys leave for the Middle east, Asia and emerging Chinese market place in the next few years.
If more people said no to type ratings or PTF scheme's, operators accountants and commercial decision makers would have to do something and start paying for training or bonding and offering better T&C's to be able crew their aircraft
Sadly companies like CTC have spoiled it for all over the past 10 years regarding T&C's or for those like myself who want to apply to an airline directly.
Lastly, you often hear of the impending retirements and need for recruitment, that has been mentioned prior to recession and some of us are still waiting to see that happen. Hopefully in a few years it will, but we are still waiting for it
Then you have a proper paying career and a good hobby without being screwed like many others. Saying that, the schools are selling courses and many going into aviation do not always know it can take years to get a proper paying job.
I have been flying 10 years and 2 years ago completed all my commercial / IR training etc. Could not get any work, stayed in my previous career and fly commercially part-time whilst waiting for a full time position which may take another 2 - 4 years to clear through.
You will also find companies like EZY have contracts with CTC and its near impossible to apply for a job directly to a operator.
Generally speaking, it was the same when EZY were offering perm jobs through CTC a few years ago. So such companies would feed their cadets in via such contracts between companies and no one else would have a chance a applying directly with no experience to EZY.
Another example is Ryanair, you apply via Oxfords SAE or CAE Amsterdam and hopefully meet the correct profile.
Their's suppose to be a looming pilot shortage. Their is no shortage of pilots, its going to be a shortage of pilots not type rated and experienced. So really it will be a a lack of pilots being able to pay for a type rating to gain employment if more experienced guys leave for the Middle east, Asia and emerging Chinese market place in the next few years.
If more people said no to type ratings or PTF scheme's, operators accountants and commercial decision makers would have to do something and start paying for training or bonding and offering better T&C's to be able crew their aircraft
Sadly companies like CTC have spoiled it for all over the past 10 years regarding T&C's or for those like myself who want to apply to an airline directly.
Lastly, you often hear of the impending retirements and need for recruitment, that has been mentioned prior to recession and some of us are still waiting to see that happen. Hopefully in a few years it will, but we are still waiting for it
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Hi folks,
I guess there's lots of this kind of threads as we all know. I just wanted to start a new one because I can't see it doing any harm.
Anyway, I'm in a situation where I can't find a job even though my situation is kinda happy as I've got no loan. I started doing my PPL at 2006 when industry was booming and airlines were advertising jobs in local newspapers etc. (Put here some cheesy stuff how I always wanted to be a pilot and fly. Yeah we all did and still do) I sold my flat and borrowed a bit money from my relatives and left to UK as I was told it's THE BEST place train and UK-license is THE MOST known around the world. I guess I was average in groundschool (+90% average), one-stop CPL/IR, first time pass IR and so on. Yeah, like it really matters I look at it now.
Then comes the recession, ashclouds, Greece, Ireland you name it. Let's try to find a job. I polish my CV for a week to make it look as good as possible and start applying. Conclusion; Europe is loaded by unemployed pilots. I send more than 100 CV's (still counting) and get nothing but negatives. I read (actually I was aware of this years ago) Asia is desperately lacking pilots? I do a bit research and it seems to be +1500h for F/O position pretty much everywhere. I still send loads of applications but no reply. Next continent - Africa. All the jobs seem to go to nationals or then there's some other corrupted shait going on. Let's still send some applications. Bush flying, cargo, anything I can find. No answer. I know that as a market Africa is a bit different but I'm not going to Maun. I thought about it but don't have a chance for it at the moment. So what's left? North-America, Latin-America, Australia, Middle-East and Japan are out of reach. Russia - not really. And that's about it. No jobs anywhere. I start thinking about FI-rating but these jobs are rare as well. And seriously I believe it will take lot's of time these days to build your hours by instructing PPL's.
Thing is that I couldn't care less which aircraft type it would be. Single, twin, jet, prop, glider. I'd just like to have a J-O-B but there isn't one. Well, to be honest few of my fellow students got jobs and are flying jets now. All of them through P2F schemes or Ryanair = same thing. I know one guy who was nicely said "unsuitable" for as a pilot but there he is on right hand seat of A320 and just because of the fat wallet. I don't want to sound bitter because I'm not (or maybe I am) but this guy was just as arrogant and cocky as a man can be and there he is flying tube full of 150 passengers. Have I thought about these P2F schemes myself? I have but it's just a bit against my morale and more than that financially out of reach.
So what's the point of this post? I don't know. Therapy? Kill some time? Just to moan? Well I don't really want to sound like moaning. I'm quite positive I will find a job at some point. I am happy that I did it and glad that I chose modular way instead of integrated which would have taken me in the sea of debts. When I was reading this forum few years ago and trying to decide where to train and how I didn't care of the negative comments about the industry. I just wanted to do it and fly, that simple. Worry later I thought. Well here we go. From that perspective I can understand people starting their training now. But if I can give any advice to people considering flying as a career these days think twice. Forget about the bull***t of pilot shortage and false FTO marketing. Don't do it now unless you have some really good connections or rich parents. Seriously.
And if there's any people who got a job outside P2F/Ryanair or cadet schemes raise your hands and tell me how you did it!
PS. Try to bear the typos. English isn't my first language.
I guess there's lots of this kind of threads as we all know. I just wanted to start a new one because I can't see it doing any harm.
Anyway, I'm in a situation where I can't find a job even though my situation is kinda happy as I've got no loan. I started doing my PPL at 2006 when industry was booming and airlines were advertising jobs in local newspapers etc. (Put here some cheesy stuff how I always wanted to be a pilot and fly. Yeah we all did and still do) I sold my flat and borrowed a bit money from my relatives and left to UK as I was told it's THE BEST place train and UK-license is THE MOST known around the world. I guess I was average in groundschool (+90% average), one-stop CPL/IR, first time pass IR and so on. Yeah, like it really matters I look at it now.
Then comes the recession, ashclouds, Greece, Ireland you name it. Let's try to find a job. I polish my CV for a week to make it look as good as possible and start applying. Conclusion; Europe is loaded by unemployed pilots. I send more than 100 CV's (still counting) and get nothing but negatives. I read (actually I was aware of this years ago) Asia is desperately lacking pilots? I do a bit research and it seems to be +1500h for F/O position pretty much everywhere. I still send loads of applications but no reply. Next continent - Africa. All the jobs seem to go to nationals or then there's some other corrupted shait going on. Let's still send some applications. Bush flying, cargo, anything I can find. No answer. I know that as a market Africa is a bit different but I'm not going to Maun. I thought about it but don't have a chance for it at the moment. So what's left? North-America, Latin-America, Australia, Middle-East and Japan are out of reach. Russia - not really. And that's about it. No jobs anywhere. I start thinking about FI-rating but these jobs are rare as well. And seriously I believe it will take lot's of time these days to build your hours by instructing PPL's.
Thing is that I couldn't care less which aircraft type it would be. Single, twin, jet, prop, glider. I'd just like to have a J-O-B but there isn't one. Well, to be honest few of my fellow students got jobs and are flying jets now. All of them through P2F schemes or Ryanair = same thing. I know one guy who was nicely said "unsuitable" for as a pilot but there he is on right hand seat of A320 and just because of the fat wallet. I don't want to sound bitter because I'm not (or maybe I am) but this guy was just as arrogant and cocky as a man can be and there he is flying tube full of 150 passengers. Have I thought about these P2F schemes myself? I have but it's just a bit against my morale and more than that financially out of reach.
So what's the point of this post? I don't know. Therapy? Kill some time? Just to moan? Well I don't really want to sound like moaning. I'm quite positive I will find a job at some point. I am happy that I did it and glad that I chose modular way instead of integrated which would have taken me in the sea of debts. When I was reading this forum few years ago and trying to decide where to train and how I didn't care of the negative comments about the industry. I just wanted to do it and fly, that simple. Worry later I thought. Well here we go. From that perspective I can understand people starting their training now. But if I can give any advice to people considering flying as a career these days think twice. Forget about the bull***t of pilot shortage and false FTO marketing. Don't do it now unless you have some really good connections or rich parents. Seriously.
And if there's any people who got a job outside P2F/Ryanair or cadet schemes raise your hands and tell me how you did it!
PS. Try to bear the typos. English isn't my first language.
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What an honest and amazing post... Man, I wish you all the best, hopefully something should come up soon
for you and all the other guys in the queue...
Me, just finished PPL, preparing to leave my daily job that is bringing me multiple thousands of pounds per month
(the job which I, of course, don't like, but which helped me save some cash for the training), and get my self on the way to ATPL.
At least, i won't have some loan to think about later...
I prefer doing it no matter what, rather then regreting later in my life for not at least trying....
cheers
for you and all the other guys in the queue...
Me, just finished PPL, preparing to leave my daily job that is bringing me multiple thousands of pounds per month
(the job which I, of course, don't like, but which helped me save some cash for the training), and get my self on the way to ATPL.
At least, i won't have some loan to think about later...
I prefer doing it no matter what, rather then regreting later in my life for not at least trying....
cheers
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Hey Guys... Just wanted to chime in... I have been lurking for some time and not been on the forum in 2 years when becoming a pilot was merely a twinkle in my eye .. Did my first discovery flight in 2009 Oct.. then got sold on it.. Went to the flight school of my choice in FL of May 2010 this year and did my PPL, Instrument and last week just done my CPL. I be heading back up shortly to complete the multi engine rating.
Its good to be here and share the same experience with many other entry level newly minted pilots. It is a very unreal feeling but I have resolved and anticipated this even before I even got into flight training. If I dont make flying into a career , I am fine. I have resolved to it being the most fantastic journey ever. That's not to say Im giving up and not persevering. I am back now to looking for a regular non flying job. I am an aeronautical engineer my qualification, worked as an aircraft technician and also a certified personal fitness trainer.
Despite my passion for airplanes, Im not sure why it took me so long for that bug to bite me to learn to fly. I just thought it be something that was way out of my reach after forking out and paying my way to Uni in the UK. As a kid, I will be at the terminal and seeing the big jets arrive and all these tall pilots in their uniform walking pass. It just never did occur to me and said "Thats gonna be me one day " despite all my family saying they saw it coming some time in my life...
To all the new guys with their CPL's I wish you the best of luck and to never give up. I am in the same boat and Im doing the same. In my country, there are over 200 new commercial pilots just sitting and waiting and hoping. I dont want to be another statistic. Its driving me to not be that way. So Im driven to resume a well paying non flying job to help me continue to build hours etc, look for single engine prop operators doing aerial tours etc. and network network network with as many active pilots as possible both locally and abroad.
In all common sense , I never once envisaged to be stepping into a jet when Im fresh out of flight training. It just insane to even think that I be stepping out of a Cessna and seeing the big metal right away . No way! There is a reason for this! I expect to earn my way up and being on that jet will be the zenith of my career.
Its good to be here and share the same experience with many other entry level newly minted pilots. It is a very unreal feeling but I have resolved and anticipated this even before I even got into flight training. If I dont make flying into a career , I am fine. I have resolved to it being the most fantastic journey ever. That's not to say Im giving up and not persevering. I am back now to looking for a regular non flying job. I am an aeronautical engineer my qualification, worked as an aircraft technician and also a certified personal fitness trainer.
Despite my passion for airplanes, Im not sure why it took me so long for that bug to bite me to learn to fly. I just thought it be something that was way out of my reach after forking out and paying my way to Uni in the UK. As a kid, I will be at the terminal and seeing the big jets arrive and all these tall pilots in their uniform walking pass. It just never did occur to me and said "Thats gonna be me one day " despite all my family saying they saw it coming some time in my life...
To all the new guys with their CPL's I wish you the best of luck and to never give up. I am in the same boat and Im doing the same. In my country, there are over 200 new commercial pilots just sitting and waiting and hoping. I dont want to be another statistic. Its driving me to not be that way. So Im driven to resume a well paying non flying job to help me continue to build hours etc, look for single engine prop operators doing aerial tours etc. and network network network with as many active pilots as possible both locally and abroad.
In all common sense , I never once envisaged to be stepping into a jet when Im fresh out of flight training. It just insane to even think that I be stepping out of a Cessna and seeing the big metal right away . No way! There is a reason for this! I expect to earn my way up and being on that jet will be the zenith of my career.
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I see so many here talking about paying your way to a Type Rating... Can u ellaborate on this .. If I know my company was hiring first officers on the Dash 8 - Q300.. Does this mean, I pay my way to a Flight Safety centre and do the type rating on the sim, pass the check ride and then pay for some actual hours on the Type or is this flight sim time we are talking bout ? And if I may ask, whats the cost of that.. I knew a flight attendant who went up and did her type training right after. Thats gotta be insanely costly I will imagine ? Off course, this is no guarantee of getting the job and goes against paying to build hours.. But God, I will pay to build some hours, especially multi engine time... Right now, my main goal is to get to that 500 hour mark but if I can pay for 100 hours of multi engine time, that be quality time. So many here in the Caribbean utilise the DHC- 6 Twin Otters.. if I was to get my type rating on that, it may be of an advantage over some pilots who dont have it.
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Q) what do I do next
Month 1 after ME/IR
"cant wait to start using this blue licence"
Month 3 after ME/IR
"Im sure an airline will phone soon"
Month 6 after ME/IR
"Why hasnt anyone responded"
Month 6 plus 1 day after ME/IR
£1200 a month loan repayment....S**T
Month 9 after ME/IR
"How much for a Ryanair Type Rating"
Month 11 after ME/IR "Flybe Called"
Month 11 plus 1 day after ME/IR
Flybe wont hire me because i dont have 50 hours in the last 12 months!
Month 12 after ME/IR
ME/IR has Expired 
£1500 to renew ME/IR
Month 13 after ME/IR
"What the hell was i thinking becoming a pilot!"
Month 1 after ME/IR
"cant wait to start using this blue licence"Month 3 after ME/IR
"Im sure an airline will phone soon"Month 6 after ME/IR
"Why hasnt anyone responded"Month 6 plus 1 day after ME/IR
£1200 a month loan repayment....S**T Month 9 after ME/IR
"How much for a Ryanair Type Rating"Month 11 after ME/IR
"Flybe Called"Month 11 plus 1 day after ME/IR
Flybe wont hire me because i dont have 50 hours in the last 12 months!Month 12 after ME/IR
ME/IR has Expired £1500 to renew ME/IRMonth 13 after ME/IR
"What the hell was i thinking becoming a pilot!"
A TR on a b737 will get me that job! To the bank!Month 17 after ME/IR
TR wasnt enough, but my friends and family expect me to become an airline pilot like I said I would!Month 18 after ME/IR
25.000 USD plus cost of living doesnt sound to bad at all for 500 hours on the b737! After that I will be home free.Month 25 after ME/IR
They kicked me out after my hours were done! Now Im screwed and the bank wants some money too. Still no one wants me!Month 26 after ME/IR
Fortunately I can tell everyone that I'm a temporary out of job AIRLINE PILOT!! Wuhuu...
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My thoughts exactly. I'm 18 and I started paying for my own training in here in the U.S. at the beginning of 2010. I pay out of pocket for my training as a dishwasher and I'm about halfway to getting my PPL. I too understand that having 1500 hours with an ATPL is a minimal amount of experience that can be "considered" as marketable.
I plan on obtaining my CPL/IR/ME with a CFI license within the next 4 years(debt free).
I plan on obtaining my CPL/IR/ME with a CFI license within the next 4 years(debt free).
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Very glad to be pursuing my PPL as a recreational thing and not a career path. Sad to hear so many similar tales about financial pressures etc. All true. Just wonder why it has to be this expensive at the end of the day, after all's said and done. 
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Good evening everyone.
I have read alot of the posts on this forum with intrigue - it also shows a real change in mentality from the first post to the end post and you can almost taste the frustration of some of the earlier posts where the recession was really hitting home.
Me? I'm standing at the beginning of the road -
I have a certificate for the Pilot Training College upstairs inviting me onto an Integrated Airline Training Program.
I have the necessary funding to get the training costs.
I have listened to the recruiter 'spiel' from the college handouts and consultants, confirming 18500 pilots are needed annually over the next 20 years.
I have been watching the news and taken on board some reports from the BBC regarding Boeing's report on recruitment of over 1/2 million new pilots to meet demand, with passenger traffic rising 9.2% this july compared to last year - and also regarding the unfair costing for type ratings and an outcry to make things fairer for pilots before people stop seeing the pilot as a viable career path.
I have provisionally booked myself onto September this year to start my training, I would then be out at the beginning of 2013.
I am not trying to get ahead of myself, but from analysis of what I hope are facts I thought that my dream of becoming a pilot may possibly be realised.
I really want to trust an organisation with vast amounts of my money even if they do not guarantee me a job at the end of it - but I see people talking about CTC on here but not much about the Pilot Training College - has anyone experienced this college here?
I try to see past the smokescreen of optimistic facts and professional businessmen from the cadet schools but it is starting to get hard to ignore the feeling that by the time 2013 comes around, we might be (I do stress the might be) heading back to what it was like at the beginning of the 21st century.
Any thoughts greatly appreciated
Thanks
I have read alot of the posts on this forum with intrigue - it also shows a real change in mentality from the first post to the end post and you can almost taste the frustration of some of the earlier posts where the recession was really hitting home.
Me? I'm standing at the beginning of the road -
I have a certificate for the Pilot Training College upstairs inviting me onto an Integrated Airline Training Program.
I have the necessary funding to get the training costs.
I have listened to the recruiter 'spiel' from the college handouts and consultants, confirming 18500 pilots are needed annually over the next 20 years.
I have been watching the news and taken on board some reports from the BBC regarding Boeing's report on recruitment of over 1/2 million new pilots to meet demand, with passenger traffic rising 9.2% this july compared to last year - and also regarding the unfair costing for type ratings and an outcry to make things fairer for pilots before people stop seeing the pilot as a viable career path.
I have provisionally booked myself onto September this year to start my training, I would then be out at the beginning of 2013.
I am not trying to get ahead of myself, but from analysis of what I hope are facts I thought that my dream of becoming a pilot may possibly be realised.
I really want to trust an organisation with vast amounts of my money even if they do not guarantee me a job at the end of it - but I see people talking about CTC on here but not much about the Pilot Training College - has anyone experienced this college here?
I try to see past the smokescreen of optimistic facts and professional businessmen from the cadet schools but it is starting to get hard to ignore the feeling that by the time 2013 comes around, we might be (I do stress the might be) heading back to what it was like at the beginning of the 21st century.
Any thoughts greatly appreciated
Thanks
The salesman trying to entice you into an Integrated course of flying training is someone you, in time, will come to view in a very negative light. Personally I love meeting these people and just wish I had more free time to pursue it as a hobby.
You are prey.
Wannabes are prey to a large flying training industry who are pimped out to the massive airline industry.
At every level those involved know that they are tainted. They just shrug and blame market forces and thank God that it was different when they went through. Then they cheerfully screw Wannabes as hard as they think they can get away with. Which is pretty hard. But Wannabes keep queuing up so the screwing will just keep getting harder. When the supply stops then the wannabe blow-jobs will begin.
WWW
You are prey.
Wannabes are prey to a large flying training industry who are pimped out to the massive airline industry.
At every level those involved know that they are tainted. They just shrug and blame market forces and thank God that it was different when they went through. Then they cheerfully screw Wannabes as hard as they think they can get away with. Which is pretty hard. But Wannabes keep queuing up so the screwing will just keep getting harder. When the supply stops then the wannabe blow-jobs will begin.
WWW
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I have listened to the recruiter 'spiel' from the college handouts and consultants, confirming 18500 pilots are needed annually over the next 20 years
wrong, it s 18501 pilots.
I can confirm as well that 2012 is the end of the world....
you will be less naive when with your CPL in pocket and NO job!
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Q) what do I do next
Month 1 after ME/IR "cant wait to start using this blue licence"
Month 3 after ME/IR "Im sure an airline will phone soon"
Month 6 after ME/IR "Why hasnt anyone responded"
Month 6 plus 1 day after ME/IR
£1200 a month loan repayment....S**T
Month 9 after ME/IR "How much for a Ryanair Type Rating"
Month 11 after ME/IR "Flybe Called"
Month 11 plus 1 day after ME/IR
Flybe wont hire me because i dont have 50 hours in the last 12 months!
Month 12 after ME/IR
ME/IR has Expired £1500 to renew ME/IR
Month 13 after ME/IR "What the hell was i thinking becoming a pilot!" Month 14 after ME/IR 
A TR on a b737 will get me that job! To the bank!
Month 17 after ME/IR TR wasnt enough, but my friends and family expect me to become an airline pilot like I said I would!
Month 18 after ME/IR 25.000 USD plus cost of living doesnt sound to bad at all for 500 hours on the b737! After that I will be home free.
Month 25 after ME/IR They kicked me out after my hours were done! Now Im screwed and the bank wants some money too. Still no one wants me!
Month 26 after ME/IR
Fortunately I can tell everyone that I'm a temporary out of job AIRLINE PILOT!! Wuhuu...
Month 1 after ME/IR
"cant wait to start using this blue licence"Month 3 after ME/IR
"Im sure an airline will phone soon"Month 6 after ME/IR
"Why hasnt anyone responded"Month 6 plus 1 day after ME/IR
£1200 a month loan repayment....S**T Month 9 after ME/IR
"How much for a Ryanair Type Rating"Month 11 after ME/IR
"Flybe Called"Month 11 plus 1 day after ME/IR
Flybe wont hire me because i dont have 50 hours in the last 12 months!Month 12 after ME/IR
ME/IR has Expired £1500 to renew ME/IRMonth 13 after ME/IR
"What the hell was i thinking becoming a pilot!" Month 14 after ME/IR A TR on a b737 will get me that job! To the bank!Month 17 after ME/IR
TR wasnt enough, but my friends and family expect me to become an airline pilot like I said I would!Month 18 after ME/IR
25.000 USD plus cost of living doesnt sound to bad at all for 500 hours on the b737! After that I will be home free.Month 25 after ME/IR
They kicked me out after my hours were done! Now Im screwed and the bank wants some money too. Still no one wants me!Month 26 after ME/IR
Fortunately I can tell everyone that I'm a temporary out of job AIRLINE PILOT!! Wuhuu...
It turns out there is a pilot shortage after all...
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WWW, the problem over here is that someone with an average job simply can't afford to fly as much as he/she wants to fly for a hobby. I heard that there are a lot of people here in Belgium who fly only <15hrs a year with their PPL.
To be honest, I'd love to be an engineer (which I'm studying), live in a southern country and fly as a hobby, but then I want to be sure I can afford it.
Maybe this is different in other European countries, because in Belgium we have one of the highest taxes in the world. I don't know.
To be honest, I'd love to be an engineer (which I'm studying), live in a southern country and fly as a hobby, but then I want to be sure I can afford it.
Maybe this is different in other European countries, because in Belgium we have one of the highest taxes in the world. I don't know.
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WWW...
Reading threads on this forum for a number of years now, WWW i'm curious, were you bullied by a 'Wannabe' airline pilot when you were a tipsy nipper?
Best.
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"...oh, look at you with your four epaulettes."
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