The CTC Wings (Cadets) Thread - Part 2.
Hello all,
I have just passed my Phase 4, bit of a scary landing and some tricky maths!!!
So I will be joining you others on CP69 by the looks of things!!!
Just got to get everything sorted before then.
Chris
I have just passed my Phase 4, bit of a scary landing and some tricky maths!!!
So I will be joining you others on CP69 by the looks of things!!!
Just got to get everything sorted before then.
Chris
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: Exeter, UK
Age: 33
Posts: 7
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
This might be a stupid question at the wrong stage, but I entered my application, and was successful, but could you give me some more information on ctc, what airline would I get a job with? Or is a job guaranteed?
Thanks
Thanks
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 433
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
You might want to read this thread and their website before going to stage 2/3. One thing they will look for at the interview is knowledge about what you're getting yourself into in terms of CTC and the airline industry...
Good luck with the application!
Robbo,
As Kerosine points out...the credit crunch is the majority of the decision but HSBC also mentioned other reasons that they didn't disclose. As far as I'm aware (could be wrong) it doesn't really affect those that have the loan already. Only the economy (interest rates) will affect the loan rather than the relationship between HSBC and CTC.
Good luck with the application!
Robbo,
As Kerosine points out...the credit crunch is the majority of the decision but HSBC also mentioned other reasons that they didn't disclose. As far as I'm aware (could be wrong) it doesn't really affect those that have the loan already. Only the economy (interest rates) will affect the loan rather than the relationship between HSBC and CTC.
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: newcastle
Age: 37
Posts: 42
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
just been down on the 9th to do phase 2/3, was succesful at phase 2 but not phase three. i have been told i was close so i have been invited back in 6 months.
I have read this whole thread out, but i need to know if reapplication means going back to phase 1, or because i have passed the pilapt and numerical tests, whether i go str8 to phase 3... i have asked ctc, but they have aid a reply could take weeks, and i would like to know now. Also, what do you think the chances are of getting through the second time round?
A heads up on finance.
I asked what the situation was, and they said that finance was still availabel for the very near future, but it will stop. HSBC are also stopping all other professional loans so its not just CTC. CTC are in conference with other banks and they hope to be able to resolve the issue.
I've just left uni with a mountain of debt, and with all the will in the world, i just dont see how i can possibly get a secured loan for that amount withing the next few years. Awful time to graduate, no jobs, no loans, no cash.
I have read this whole thread out, but i need to know if reapplication means going back to phase 1, or because i have passed the pilapt and numerical tests, whether i go str8 to phase 3... i have asked ctc, but they have aid a reply could take weeks, and i would like to know now. Also, what do you think the chances are of getting through the second time round?
A heads up on finance.
I asked what the situation was, and they said that finance was still availabel for the very near future, but it will stop. HSBC are also stopping all other professional loans so its not just CTC. CTC are in conference with other banks and they hope to be able to resolve the issue.
I've just left uni with a mountain of debt, and with all the will in the world, i just dont see how i can possibly get a secured loan for that amount withing the next few years. Awful time to graduate, no jobs, no loans, no cash.
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 433
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
You'll go back to the stage that you failed. If you fail stage 3, you'll go back to "resit" stage 3 and then progress to stage 4 if you pass.
Pass rate for re-applicants is very high - somebody mentioned a 95% pass rate for those reapplying simply because they have the areas that went wrong as feedback so in most cases, it's simple to correct it.
Pass rate for re-applicants is very high - somebody mentioned a 95% pass rate for those reapplying simply because they have the areas that went wrong as feedback so in most cases, it's simple to correct it.
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: newcastle
Age: 37
Posts: 42
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
wow really!
thats excellent on both accounts. If i thought i had to do pilapt again, i think that reapplication could be hit or miss. I have to wait to get feedback, but i reckon it was the group exercise that let me down a little. perhaps a few dodgy answers in the interview too.
thats excellent on both accounts. If i thought i had to do pilapt again, i think that reapplication could be hit or miss. I have to wait to get feedback, but i reckon it was the group exercise that let me down a little. perhaps a few dodgy answers in the interview too.
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: newcastle
Age: 37
Posts: 42
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
by the way, if you do go back to phase three, what happens if you failed a group excercise? considering these are done at phase 2, how do the make you do them again, or is it totalitarian, if you fail a group excercise once, thats it, no coming back?
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: UK
Posts: 433
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Not sure what you mean.
If you fail a group exercise and pass the other one when you go back, I don't know what will happen. Probably depends on whether the assessors think you're suitable.
If you failed one group exercise last time, then you'll redo both group exercises and have another interview that'll cover the last 6 months plus a few extra questions.
If you fail a group exercise and pass the other one when you go back, I don't know what will happen. Probably depends on whether the assessors think you're suitable.
If you failed one group exercise last time, then you'll redo both group exercises and have another interview that'll cover the last 6 months plus a few extra questions.
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: West Sussex
Age: 42
Posts: 45
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Just had it confirmed to me by a lady at the bank at Southampton.
HSBC will be stopping all postgraduate study loans including the CTC loan from the end of Septmeber. However she says they will honour any loan that is currently being processed.... including mine!
HSBC will be stopping all postgraduate study loans including the CTC loan from the end of Septmeber. However she says they will honour any loan that is currently being processed.... including mine!
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: london
Posts: 43
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Re-assessment
If you fail any group exercise, they will ask you to resit that. I went in may 08 but didn't go to phase4. However, they also called me back stating that i was very close to their standards. My feedback said that I failed one of the group exercise as they found me dominating the group (which I admit because no one was speaking or discussing and I, only then, had to jump in to define the objectives of our task... wish I had stayed quiet).
However, due to this fact they have asked me to repeat from phase 1 and I thought for what reasons .. despite passing it. But never mind, never afraid of it. I am back in Nov 08 and if i pass I will not need HSBC to fund me .. I worked like a donkey
.. (still a donkey 
) and sacrificed much.
I am also a graduate and an IT engineer/consultant so will always have a backup plan and side work. so the bottom line is they may ask you to sit any exercise.
However, due to this fact they have asked me to repeat from phase 1 and I thought for what reasons .. despite passing it. But never mind, never afraid of it. I am back in Nov 08 and if i pass I will not need HSBC to fund me .. I worked like a donkey
.. (still a donkey ) and sacrificed much.I am also a graduate and an IT engineer/consultant so will always have a backup plan and side work. so the bottom line is they may ask you to sit any exercise.
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Colchester
Age: 30
Posts: 21
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Hey, First post here 
.
Regarding the HSBC - CTC partnership, will this completely end the loans or will it be resolved by the time I hopefully apply (2011)?
Thanks,
Callum.
.Regarding the HSBC - CTC partnership, will this completely end the loans or will it be resolved by the time I hopefully apply (2011)?
Thanks,
Callum.
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: England
Posts: 180
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
It's difficult to tell what's going to happen next week, let alone in three years' time. I wouldn't be worrying about the financing aspect at this point. Concentrate on getting through GCSEs, A levels and ideally a degree before you even start to think about financing pilot training!
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Europe
Posts: 673
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Regarding the HSBC - CTC partnership, will this completely end the loans or will it be resolved by the time I hopefully apply (2011)?
Whatever anyone might suggest in regards to financial arrangements with CTC and the banks, take it with a pinch of salt. Mr Magic seems to have the sensible option I believe That being said, the sensible option is not always the best to take.
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: newcastle
Age: 37
Posts: 42
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
However, due to this fact they have asked me to repeat from phase 1 and I thought for what reasons .. despite passing it.
Did you get to phase 3?
How would pilapt work? if it measures you on improvement rathr than score, the second attempt at doing it will have a much shallower learning curve...
This news isnt really what i wanted to hear. To be honest, I'm pretty sure it was a gropup excercise that let me down because i was very active in the group, but i always let people talk and encouraged the quieter members for their thoughts. The group excercises seem like the hardest part of the whole thing, because you cant really prepare for it, and you dont really know what theyre looking for. For someone like me who has mostly led teams, its almost impossible not to want to start organising...
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: london
Posts: 43
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I also have a blue chip background in managing people and seriously, I had to speak up in my first group meeting because everyone was quiet and did not even discuss who we were going to execute the task. So if I was the only 1 speaking, then I was the only 1 speaking.
djfingerscrossed is right. In my second exercise, I even used humour to defuse the tense envrionment (but it was picked up in my feedback). I also attempted to get the quietest person to get involved and asked for his opinions on various occassions .. and yes, I smiled a few times which they did notice.
My pilapt scores were mainly ... 4,7,8 ... 5,7,9 ... 3,5,8 ... 5,4,7 ...4, 6, 8.. etc .. so I had no doubt in passing that. Maths was way too easy. I passed stage 2 and went to the stage 3 .. had a good interview as well. Never mind, ready for it again... confident to nail it this time. but I always advise people that they should always have a backup plan.
djfingerscrossed is right. In my second exercise, I even used humour to defuse the tense envrionment (but it was picked up in my feedback). I also attempted to get the quietest person to get involved and asked for his opinions on various occassions .. and yes, I smiled a few times which they did notice.
My pilapt scores were mainly ... 4,7,8 ... 5,7,9 ... 3,5,8 ... 5,4,7 ...4, 6, 8.. etc .. so I had no doubt in passing that. Maths was way too easy. I passed stage 2 and went to the stage 3 .. had a good interview as well. Never mind, ready for it again... confident to nail it this time. but I always advise people that they should always have a backup plan.
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Italy
Posts: 18
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Hi there Xbilz, i was in may too and have to resit in november (6 month after), i did well the group ex. but did wrong an apt. test.
Sooo, i was wondering if you have already sent an e-mail to ctc staff for the resit date or, when are you going to do it?
I want to resit as soon as possible (as you i presume) and surely the queue for the selection is getting longer in this period.
See ya
Rik
Sooo, i was wondering if you have already sent an e-mail to ctc staff for the resit date or, when are you going to do it?
I want to resit as soon as possible (as you i presume) and surely the queue for the selection is getting longer in this period.
See ya
Rik
Join Date: Aug 2008
Location: newcastle
Age: 37
Posts: 42
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
they should always have a backup plan
but i still have a hell of a target to shoot for, there are lots of FTO's but theres summit about CTC that tells me that theyre the best. Dibden is luvly.
to dream.. the improbable dream...