The CTC Wings (Cadets) Thread - Part 2.
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Madhouse, ring CTC and ask them. Talk through the options with them, they can tell you better than anyone else. I am sure they will see that you are just wanting to give yourself the best chance of getting qualified. They won't bite. I'm bet you are not the only one with these concerns at the moment. All your decisions look like they are geared towards you eventually getting a job as a pilot, it’s this kind of thing that CTC want to see at the end of the day!!
I hear that CTC are talking to other banks about funding so you might find there are options if you get through.
Bonalaste, I see what you are saying. However there is another thread running like you say, it has covered all FTO's and people training but moved on to general economic stuff!!
The thing is though that I think this information is relevant to this thread and should be included. It is applicable to CTC as a FTO and future cadets. I think it would be wrong to not have any reference to it in the thread at all.
I also disagree that it makes CTC look worse than other FTO's. A lot of posters say now is a cr*p time to embark on training but if you are going to do it regardless CTC is probably one of the best places to train at. Maybe not as good an opportunity as it once was but still better than probably all others. When things do pick up again then CTC will get back to the good times (i.e straight into RHS of a jet with no delay). Just might take a while.
Also they might discourage the ones who aren't that committed. Just fancy doing it as it might be a "cool" job etc etc. The ones who really really want it will carry on anyway. They are the ones who deserve the jobs!!!!
In fact those who really want it should post loads of doom and gloom, put people off starting and increase your chances of getting a job when it all picks up!!!
In fact maybe that’s it, maybe the economy is in great shape but a few clever cadets have got together with some spin doctors and...............................................!!
I hear that CTC are talking to other banks about funding so you might find there are options if you get through.
Bonalaste, I see what you are saying. However there is another thread running like you say, it has covered all FTO's and people training but moved on to general economic stuff!!
The thing is though that I think this information is relevant to this thread and should be included. It is applicable to CTC as a FTO and future cadets. I think it would be wrong to not have any reference to it in the thread at all.
I also disagree that it makes CTC look worse than other FTO's. A lot of posters say now is a cr*p time to embark on training but if you are going to do it regardless CTC is probably one of the best places to train at. Maybe not as good an opportunity as it once was but still better than probably all others. When things do pick up again then CTC will get back to the good times (i.e straight into RHS of a jet with no delay). Just might take a while.
Also they might discourage the ones who aren't that committed. Just fancy doing it as it might be a "cool" job etc etc. The ones who really really want it will carry on anyway. They are the ones who deserve the jobs!!!!
In fact those who really want it should post loads of doom and gloom, put people off starting and increase your chances of getting a job when it all picks up!!!
In fact maybe that’s it, maybe the economy is in great shape but a few clever cadets have got together with some spin doctors and...............................................!!
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That's a great idea!
I'm going out to New Zealand on CP 69!
Listen up newbies / wannabes (me included) no jobs for 5 years, don't train it's a waste of money! Don't forget losing the medical, huge risk, may not get a job! Think of everything negative you can so you don't start training!
ps, if you can pass this message on to the boys at Cabair, Oxford and FTE, that would be greatly appreciated!!
Brilliant!! That should put me in pole position, (ahem not!)
That's a great idea!
I'm going out to New Zealand on CP 69!
Listen up newbies / wannabes (me included) no jobs for 5 years, don't train it's a waste of money! Don't forget losing the medical, huge risk, may not get a job! Think of everything negative you can so you don't start training!
ps, if you can pass this message on to the boys at Cabair, Oxford and FTE, that would be greatly appreciated!!
Brilliant!! That should put me in pole position, (ahem not!)
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Bonsalte is 95.1% correct.
He misses out on the other 4.9% due to my scientific mind not wanting him a whole 100%, as it would be unreliable, yet seeing as the defiecit is less than 5%, the Pvalue < P= 0.005 which makes any incorrect notions from bonsalte insignifictant.
Good post bonsalte
He misses out on the other 4.9% due to my scientific mind not wanting him a whole 100%, as it would be unreliable, yet seeing as the defiecit is less than 5%, the Pvalue < P= 0.005 which makes any incorrect notions from bonsalte insignifictant.
Good post bonsalte
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Well I’m sorry if my disbelief at the sunglasses diversion has caused upset, but I could not believe the similarity to a group of girl guides about to embark on their first camp, worried about what coloured bras to pack whilst a hurricaine headed for their tents!!
Guys …an girls, it is bloody tough out here right now. ----Consider long and hard what you are getting in to.
CTC is a great training provider… that is in no way in dispute.
I’ve known/ trained a number of good/great pilots who have failed the CTC selection process, so I have no doubt that they genuinely take the best, and that the selection process is not the sham of other FTO’s ..so very well done those who have got through.
What is of concern is, that right now is that they cannot deliver the levels of employment promised by the end of your course.
PLEASE.. ask some pointed questions before getting yourselves into more debt.
I sit in a ‘fairly’ safe and very hard fought for left hand TP seat, won at a time when employment was at a peak. Believe me, the tails of woe from those I meet every day right now, with thousands of hours, should not be underestimated.
I have to confess that WWW pissed me off …more than a little …at the beginning of this crisis, but, I have to admit he was’ just ‘ a bit right!
Please, take off the rose coloured glasses and think long and hard about what you commit yourself to, for at least the next year.
There is no doubt that some CTC students will see full employment at the end of their course, but a growing number will sadly not.
To those committed, your training will be some of the best times of your life, and, without doubt, CTC will do their best on your behalf
Good luck to you all.
Guys …an girls, it is bloody tough out here right now. ----Consider long and hard what you are getting in to.
CTC is a great training provider… that is in no way in dispute.
I’ve known/ trained a number of good/great pilots who have failed the CTC selection process, so I have no doubt that they genuinely take the best, and that the selection process is not the sham of other FTO’s ..so very well done those who have got through.
What is of concern is, that right now is that they cannot deliver the levels of employment promised by the end of your course.
PLEASE.. ask some pointed questions before getting yourselves into more debt.
I sit in a ‘fairly’ safe and very hard fought for left hand TP seat, won at a time when employment was at a peak. Believe me, the tails of woe from those I meet every day right now, with thousands of hours, should not be underestimated.
I have to confess that WWW pissed me off …more than a little …at the beginning of this crisis, but, I have to admit he was’ just ‘ a bit right!
Please, take off the rose coloured glasses and think long and hard about what you commit yourself to, for at least the next year.
There is no doubt that some CTC students will see full employment at the end of their course, but a growing number will sadly not.
To those committed, your training will be some of the best times of your life, and, without doubt, CTC will do their best on your behalf
Good luck to you all.
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I see someone is in a similar boat as myself regarding going to reassessment. To let you know my theory: I have booked my reassessment with the hope of passing, obviously. The funding bridge can be crossed if I make it that far.
Now, regarding my reassessment... It's at Dibden, only phase 3 so need to be there for about 11am. Just wondering if anyone knows how much a taxi from Bournemouth Airport to Dibden is going to skin me? I think I am going to risk it and fly in and out on the day of my assessment
Lets hope Ryanair are feeling punctual that day 
Now, regarding my reassessment... It's at Dibden, only phase 3 so need to be there for about 11am. Just wondering if anyone knows how much a taxi from Bournemouth Airport to Dibden is going to skin me? I think I am going to risk it and fly in and out on the day of my assessment
Lets hope Ryanair are feeling punctual that day
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A lot, frankly. I remember Christchurch Station - Bournemouth Airport costing about 11 quid and that's only 4 miles, and was nearly 3 years ago. Bournemouth Airport to Dibden is nearly 28 miles. Taxis aren't cheap down there. If you've got to make a return journey you might be better off hiring a car for the day.
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ctctim, you'll be on CP69. CP68 are out here November 23rd, or there and thereabouts.
Gar, the taxi from Bournemouth to Dibden will cost around £30.
Ronnie, the insurers that CTC tell you about (they state sooo many times that they are not recommending - FSA rules or something) is Paul Jones Insurance Services Limited, PJIS. They are expensive, however, and I have heard of people getting significantly cheaper deals. However, this may be offset by the fact that, were something to go wrong, you are dealing with a company that is totally familiar with the scheme, making claims far simpler and more likely to be successful. Six of one, half dozen of the other.
Gar, the taxi from Bournemouth to Dibden will cost around £30.
Ronnie, the insurers that CTC tell you about (they state sooo many times that they are not recommending - FSA rules or something) is Paul Jones Insurance Services Limited, PJIS. They are expensive, however, and I have heard of people getting significantly cheaper deals. However, this may be offset by the fact that, were something to go wrong, you are dealing with a company that is totally familiar with the scheme, making claims far simpler and more likely to be successful. Six of one, half dozen of the other.
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ctctim will neither be CP68 nor 69, kiwi cadets train separately from Euro cadets and have their own groups, ctctim you'll probably be in NZ11, you'll do your PPL exams with CP69 or 68 but if they're not arriving in december you might end up doing them just with the other kiwis in your group (if there are any others) and after that you'll branch into completely different training paths.
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Hi everyone,
Just wanted to see if there were any guys currently out in New Zealand / in the middle / end of training out there? O back in UK nearing the end, infact anyone on ICP?
I've got some questions about the scheme that I wanted to ask someone who's on it, can anyone help before I come out? I'm due out on CP69 (awesome course number) and wanted to get the questions / opinons before I left.
If anyone can help, it would be massively appreciated. Feel free to PM me!
Thanks,
Jim
Just wanted to see if there were any guys currently out in New Zealand / in the middle / end of training out there? O back in UK nearing the end, infact anyone on ICP?
I've got some questions about the scheme that I wanted to ask someone who's on it, can anyone help before I come out? I'm due out on CP69 (awesome course number) and wanted to get the questions / opinons before I left.
If anyone can help, it would be massively appreciated. Feel free to PM me!
Thanks,
Jim
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HSBC loan
Hey Guys,
I just got the news that I passed!!! I will be part of CP 73. woooh I can't wait to get started.
However, I would love to hear from any cadets who have managed to pass phase 4 after Sept. 08 .
I have just learned that since Sept due to the financial crisis HSBC has stopped the unsecured loan and I really don't have a clue on how I am going to get that! It would be great to hear from you and to get any advice!
Thanks.
I just got the news that I passed!!! I will be part of CP 73. woooh I can't wait to get started.
However, I would love to hear from any cadets who have managed to pass phase 4 after Sept. 08 .
I have just learned that since Sept due to the financial crisis HSBC has stopped the unsecured loan and I really don't have a clue on how I am going to get that! It would be great to hear from you and to get any advice!
Thanks.
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CTC should give you some info on it but until then, yes, HSBC have stopped the professional studies loan so anything you get will be secured from another high street bank or from your own funds...
CTC are looking for another "partnership" but we can assume that it's looking a little unlikely for now.
CTC are looking for another "partnership" but we can assume that it's looking a little unlikely for now.
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Hi ctctim. I am also a kiwi starting in December so I guess I will see you there in a few weeks. When was your selection? I know you weren't at mine.